# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2561 "2010-11-03T16:27:58Z")

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The big surprise for me is that Normal is only a Night investigator, not Night and Day as I am. This obviously brings down the chances of us getting a match quite considerably, as she has far fewer code-numbers than I thought she would by this point.

I think you should investigate a kill. Whether he’s Town or not, Hal probably isn’t lying about who the Scum killed. So I would probably suggest you investigate a non-Scum kill and see if it matches any of the numbers we have. I won’t investigate Maha, but other than that I won’t discuss who I’m going to look at.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2562 "2010-11-03T16:33:09Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> That makes sense. When NAF first had the book, he reported that Story told him that the book gets buried with the book holder in the event of his death. But, “these things have a way of turning up”. Of course, if Rysto was the only game mechanic for turning it up, it may stay buried with it’s owner.
> 
> Also, ]Unvote McGinty
> 
> Vote Lilflower
> 
> Not that I think Mcginty is town. I just think we’d benefit from Lil’s death. She’s either vanilla now and her lynch would confirm Total as town. Or she’s scum and came up with a fanciful role to protect her.
> 
> I’m honestly leaning more towards the former than the latter, but confirmed town would be a real asset.

Ooooh, this post totally rubs me the wrong way. Unvoting someone you think is Scum or Third Party, voting someone you think is Town, in an attempt to “confirm” someone who still won’t be confirmed by said Townie’s death.

I’m going to attempt a WOW on **brewha** , now that something I had at 1:30 today isn’t actually happening, especially since I had completely forgotten that he was even in this game, and at this point lurking is a very good strategy for both Scum and third parties.

For now, as a placeholder until I finish the WOW and either give myself more reasons or talk myself out of it, I’m gonna

**vote brewha**

Now to finish the rest of the thread, as I stopped reading as soon as this post hit me upside the head.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2563 "2010-11-03T16:38:04Z")

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Well, that’s alot out in the open all at once.

The mason thing had to come out to verify numbers, but I think it may have been a bit premature. I’m going to suggest that you investigate someone other than me - simply because I can guarantee that it will not give you any useful info.

Of course you’re not going to believe me, even though I’ve played a very nonscummy game. I’ve only voted for scum (afaik) and I have not been in on any town lynches. I even voted for Telcontar day one. But, yeah that could have been a scum bussing, right?

Anyway, I’m fine claiming. more to follow.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2564 "2010-11-03T16:48:54Z")

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I’m not actually suggesting a claim, brewha – in fact, unless it provides something confirmable, I hardly see the point at all just yet. Still plenty of time in the Day.

Tell us who your suspects are and why, that’s more useful.

(Hal suggested strongly he DID have information to give, which is why I suggested he just go ahead, having said that.)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2565 "2010-11-03T16:49:40Z")

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OK, power number 2 of Stanislaus’s, assuming Normal shares it (as seems likely) would indicate why Normal found it so ironic that Chip protected her on Night 1. Such a needless death, so sad.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2566 "2010-11-03T16:51:49Z")

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Edited to remove claim. NOw that I see what I should ahve before

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2567 "2010-11-03T16:53:48Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> I’m not actually suggesting a claim, brewha – in fact, unless it provides something confirmable, I hardly see the point at all just yet. Still plenty of time in the Day.
> 
> Tell us who your suspects are and why, that’s more useful.
> 
> (Hal suggested strongly he DID have information to give, which is why I suggested he just go ahead, having said that.)

Yes I edited. I just removed my claim when I read this.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2568 "2010-11-03T17:41:53Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> The “cannot possibly be recruited” thing in a Mason’s PM could just be belt-and-suspenders confirmation that you are, in fact, trustworthy to your mason buddy right through to the end of the game.
> 
> As I recall, I had similar wording in my publicly-confirmed-Townie PM in **story’s** Marvel Civil War game, and I don’t believe that game had any targeted recruitment, just a couple roles that could pick their side.

Maybe I missed this but where did you see something about Masons not being recruited at the time you posted this?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2569 "2010-11-03T17:52:23Z")

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On Nov 1 Normal posted this:

> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> If we’re talking mass claim, I should point out one thing from my PM. It says that I am NOT “vulnerable to any kind of change in alignment under any circumstances.”
> 
> Which rather implies that some are.
> 
> I’m not sure that it matters – I’ve been going back and forth on whether to bring this up at all for most of the game (not knowing the mechanism by which such alignment changes might occur – it might be unnecessary WIFOM), and given those uncertainties, the impact on any otherwise confirmed players we might have is unclear. NAF died a townie – that is possibly a good sign that if there is traditional recruitment in the game, it had already happened before he became “all-but-confirmed” (which would mean greater odds of catching such a player on behavior than if it happened late). But there’s no way to be sure.
> 
> I might be making this too complicated. Going to sleep on a couple of things. I hope people aren’t tempted to rely on power roles to solve the game, though.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2570 "2010-11-03T18:12:27Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2571 "2010-11-03T18:13:20Z")

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At this point, my indecision and post editing are gonna make me look scummy. And while I don’t have anything confirmable, my claim can be tested. I’m gonna be AWK for the next several hours and I don’t know where this conversation may be headed. So, I may as well just post it and let it be mulled over.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2572 "2010-11-03T18:14:51Z")

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Lurking is also a decent enough strategy for a town power role.

[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
Welcome to the game; you are the **Continuity Editor**

**ALIGNMENT:** Town  
**GENERIC:** Role-Blocker  
**WIN CONDITION:** All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished.

**BACKGROUND:**

Yours is a thankless job. You are a reality show employee, responsible for collecting hours of footage and carefully editing it together to tell a coherent story, while ensuring that the Producer’s planned characterizations of the contestants remain consistent throughout (regardless of any actions they might take that go against that planned characterization). Following an ugly dispute with Phil Keoghan, you were unceremoniously fired from your previous position, and now you find yourself here, trying to reclaim some of your lost dignity by editing footage for a reality show about demons. That should end well.

As a result of your position, you have some latitude in controlling the flow of the final story that will be told here. Some of the other participants may, from time to time, engage in activities that don’t fit with the narrative you’re trying to push. You have been given the authority to stop them from ruining the show in this way - within certain limits, of course.

Good luck!

**POWERS:**

1. On any given Night, you may select a target and rewrite the script such that his or her planned action does not occur (ie, you will role-block them). You are not required to act on any given Night and you may not target yourself. Your power will always work correctly, unless the actions of other players interfere. Please note - your ability affects only actions that occur during the Night; actions that occur during the Day will not be affected even if they are targeted during the Night.  
[/QUOTE]

I’ve decided to claim for a few reasons. First of all, I have no idea what to do with a town -based role block ability. I don’t have enough of a read on anyone to predict that they’ll do any killing at night and blindly guessing could have as much a anti town and pro town outcome. So, any help with this power would be great.

Second, this takes some heat off the other more useful power roles - like our recently self outed masons. And, hopefully it’ll allow them to target someone with potentially useful results.

Third, I’m claiming early so if anyone has an idea of a way I can prove my role tonight, we can add one more confirmed town to our side.

Of course, this all is under the assumption that I don’t get lynched today - something that I have no power over.  
I can tell you what I’ve been up to though - just about nothing  
Night one:

[QUOTE=brewha]  
I’m getting a strong feeling that Peeker is scum, but nothing I can make a case on. I considered doing a stab in the dark block on him, but since I dont’ know how many kills are possible in the night, I wouldn’t know if my block did anything. And, any action of mine could presumably be seen by the wrong people.

While I hate to waste an opportunity to wield my power, I’ll lay low and do nothing tonight.  
[/QUOTE]

Night two:

[QUOTE=brewha]  
I hope you’re keeping these PMs for the peanut gallery. I knew Peeker was scum! OK, not knew - but had a hunch. I shoulda dropped the role block on him last night. Maybe woulda saved a townie.

So, I’m getting the same hunch against OAOW. Just a twinge, though.

I’ve realized that I am guaranteed to get no extra info by doing nothing at night. Even a random guess could potential give me some info. Maybe I risk being outed, but it’s a risk worth taking if there’s info to be had.

Block OneandOnlyWanderers  
[/QUOTE]

I got no response, so I assume that OAOW did nothing night two to block.

Night three:  
Didn’t happen  
Night three PT II:  
Was over before I got a chance to do anything

SO, I’ve done one block to no avail. But, damn if I wasn’t right on the money with Peeks! Just something I wanted to brag about anyway.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2573 "2010-11-03T18:16:43Z")

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Oh, the quotes by me are the ones I sent Story at night - if that wasn’t obvious.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2574 "2010-11-03T18:17:11Z")

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You’re right, brewha. You do look scummy. Thanks for hanging a lantern on it to try to deflect it.  
\*\*  
Vote brewha\*\*

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2575 "2010-11-03T19:07:08Z")

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I can confirm brewha’s night two action.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2576 "2010-11-03T19:07:43Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
>
> I’ve decided to claim for a few reasons. First of all, I have no idea what to do with a town -based role block ability. I don’t have enough of a read on anyone to predict that they’ll do any killing at night and blindly guessing could have as much a anti town and pro town outcome. So, any help with this power would be great.

Well, if we do the mass claim you could use the power to block any in the pool of unconfirmed.

> [@brewha](#):
>
> Third, I’m claiming early so if anyone has an idea of a way I can prove my role tonight, we can add one more confirmed town to our side.

No. We would have confirmed that you can block. That would still not be a confirmation of you alignment.  
This is the second time you have made that assumption.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2577 "2010-11-03T19:09:14Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> I can confirm brewha’s night two action.

Well - I did ask someone to convince me we should do the mass claim. I think this post did it for me.

Best way would be for the masons to somehow come up with a list in order to claim.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2578 "2010-11-03T19:12:18Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> You’re right, brewha. You do look scummy. Thanks for hanging a lantern on it to try to deflect it.  
> \*\*  
> Vote brewha\*\*

Could you point to something more specific?  
Was it the editing? The claim? The vote for lilflower?

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2579 "2010-11-03T19:18:22Z")

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> [@Total\_Lost](#):
>
> Well - I did ask someone to convince me we should do the mass claim. I think this post did it for me.
> 
> Best way would be for the masons to somehow come up with a list in order to claim.

I agree that if we are going to do a mass claim, \*\*Stanislaus \*\*and \*\*Normal \*\*should set the order.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2580 "2010-11-03T19:27:05Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
>
> \<snip\>  
> Second, this takes some heat off the other more useful power roles - like our recently self outed masons. And, hopefully it’ll allow them to target someone with potentially useful results.  
> \<snip\>

What do you mean by saying that your claim takes some heat off the other more useful roles, especially the masons? It seems like you are telling them not to target you toNight.

Your PM to story about \*\*peeker \*\*looks very scummy indeed. You seem to want to show us that you thought he was scum but that you didn’t actually do anything about it. What was the point of telling story that you thought he was scum but couldn’t make a case?

I’m very tempted to vote for you but I’d like to hear what \*\*OAOW \*\*has to say first.

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