# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 130
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2581 "2010-11-03T19:30:18Z")
Do you want to do it, Stanislaus? I’m still not convinced. One: we’re getting no claim from Mrs McGinty. This is OOG information, but he has no computer access until I don’t know when. I don’t know what Storyteller is planning to do about his role, but at any rate: no claim. Second: … on second thought I have no second right now. Need a list of who the players are and what claims ARE out there. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2582 "2010-11-03T19:33:45Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Your PM to story about \*\*peeker \*\*looks very scummy indeed. You seem to want to show us that you thought he was scum but that you didn’t actually do anything about it. What was the point of telling story that you thought he was scum but couldn’t make a case? I get it. It’s tricky being a roleblocker on Night One. Simply put, the odds that the persons you’re blocking is trying to help town are much higher than that they’re trying to hurt town. Doesn’t remove the stink from him, but I certainly get that part of it (although I’m a reckless player – I’d probably have tried a block anyhow). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2583 "2010-11-03T19:37:38Z")
Normal: here’s a no-link list based on stanislaus’s list from a couple pages ago, updated but no guarantee of completeness (see above re sleep) ALIVE 1. Mahaloth - The Census Taker (Special) 2. Oy! - Novice Witch (Inventor) 3. Normal Phase - Mason and Investigator 4. Stanislaus - Mason and Investigator 5. Drain Bead - Librarian (Vanilla+) 6. lilflower- Stand-By (Backup) - took Idle’s Power for one Day/Night 7. brewha - roleblocker 8. Hal Briston - coroner 9. One and Only Wanderers - claims to have been blocked Night 2 10. Total Lost - not Demon, claimed by lilflower 11. Tom Scud for GuiriEnEspana – Night Three 12. Mrs. McGinty 13. Texcat 14. USCDiver 15. CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 16. Natlaw 17. Nanook of the North Shore ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2584 "2010-11-03T19:39:37Z")
NETA: so we have only 8 players who have not said anything about their own role, one of whom has been possibly cleared by an investigator. Only Normal, I think, of the top 8 above hasn’t posted a PM. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2585 "2010-11-03T19:42:05Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > I get it. It’s tricky being a roleblocker on Night One. Simply put, the odds that the persons you’re blocking is trying to help town are much higher than that they’re trying to hurt town. > > Doesn’t remove the stink from him, but I certainly get that part of it (although I’m a reckless player – I’d probably have tried a block anyhow). Agreed. What I don’t understand is why tell \*\*story \*\*all about it. He’s the mod. He won’t comment on it (I would assume). Now if he were telling us about it here in the Day thread (outside of a quoted PM), I could understand wanting to explain it to us. But to put it in a PM to mod that he then quotes back to us seems unnecessary if he were town (if he were scum, he may want it to look somehow more “official” that he thought about blocking \*\*peeker \*\*Night 1). Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t usually give a lot of background on my Night actions because I don’t expect the mod to say anything about it so why bother. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2586 "2010-11-03T20:09:26Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > NETA: so we have only 8 players who have not said anything about their own role, one of whom has been possibly cleared by an investigator. Only Normal, I think, of the top 8 above hasn’t posted a PM. And I might as well, I suppose, just for completeness’ sake. 8 players is still a sizeable group. I keep obsessing about those presumed protective roles, for obvious reasons. And most likely no more than two of those eight on any one team, quite possibly fewer. Tentatively **unvote brewha** , given the backup from OAOW. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2587 "2010-11-03T20:11:18Z")
Actually I won’t post mine until I decide if I want to give the details of what I can and can’t ask about. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2588 "2010-11-03T20:14:02Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Actually I won’t post mine until I decide if I want to give the details of what I can and can’t ask about. I don’t think you should (give us the details) until after a mass claim. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2589 "2010-11-03T20:15:28Z")
NETA and actually maybe not even then - if the scum/PFKs don’t know what you can ask, they won’t know how they need to shade their false claims. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2590 "2010-11-03T20:27:27Z")
Good point, though if I live long enough it could wind up a moot point – the more results I post the more accurate they’ll get. Or I might wind up dead before I can say anything at all, haha. Mostly I just want someone to tell me what to do, haha. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2591 "2010-11-03T20:47:01Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t usually give a lot of background on my Night actions because I don’t expect the mod to say anything about it so why bother. Posterity, I suppose. **Story** isn’t the only one reading these – they’ll be posted for all to see, eventually. I do the same thing sometimes – telling the mod my reasoning so everyone else will know my reasoning (myself included, so when I look back weeks later I remember why I did what I did). ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2592 "2010-11-03T21:16:16Z")
Keeping it close can help surprise scum (like in Halloween the fact the the masons not just tracked but also watched nailed a scum - I believe even a certain PFK went out of her way to dig that up ;)). I’m also keeping some specific details hidden but the reason to claims are: -I don’t want to be blocked by **Brewha** if he’s town (the fact that OneAndOnly confirms his Night two action means he isn’t scum using **peeker** ’s block action, as peeker was dead at that point (he could be scum back up or have used the Book maybe - **OneAndOnly** did you can any color with you blocked message that point to that?) PFK or scum with a fake roleblocker claim (which would be pretty strong with an actual scum roleblocker turning) is still possible but I don’t think the latter that likely. -I like some negative emotions Today to make an extra Talisman so if you believe my claim please put me as runner-up, I’ll be depressed and work magic :eek: Note that this is bad for the vote record I prefer the masons, most-likely-town and myself to do it. But not before you made it clear who you would vote to lynch and feel free to vote those first as well. The extra talisman is a bonus one and I’m not yet out of my regular ones. [QUOTE=storyteller0910] Welcome to the game; you are the **Voodoo Witch Doctor** **ALIGNMENT:** Town **GENERIC:** Doctor **WIN CONDITION:** All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished. **BACKGROUND:** You don’t really know why you’re so misunderstood. Just because you live in a rotting shack in the middle of the woods, trucking with zombies and hissing in a dead language at everyone you see, people think you’re _weird_. You never score invitations to the cool parties, and frankly, some of the comments about your dental hygeine are just _hurtful._ Truth is, you don’t have a violent or cruel bone in your entire body (you do have a few in a trunk under your bed, but that’s a different story). The magic you use is good magic, preservative magic, and you are proud to employ it in the protection of those who reject you. You were warned by your magic of the coming of the Demons long before they showed themselves, of course, and you hurried to the Cabin in the Woods, disguised as a confused Halloween party refugee, to try to help deal with the threat. Unfortunately, in your rush, you grabbed only a few of the tools you need to utilize your magic; you will thus have to consider carefully how to ration the power you have. **POWERS:** 1. You possess a total of X protective Talismans. Each will allow you to protect one player (including yourself) from death for a single Day/Night cycle (but the Talisman must be played at Night); the Talisman is consumed when used. There is no limit to the number of Talismans you may play in a given Night; if you wish, you may protect X different players on Night One and thereafter be without the ability to protect. 2. You have the power to convert negative emotion into additional power. If you should ever be the second-leading vote getter on any particular Day (your own vote will count toward this figuring), you will receive an additional Talisman to be used at will according to the rules described in point #1, above. **This will happen a maximum of once per game.** [/QUOTE] Additional points: -I got a ‘once per game’ just like Mahaloth - it’s just the way Story writes PMs (so would include fake ones). -I targeted **Oy!** and myself during Night One. This could have stopped a PFK kill that Night and I would use an extra kill asp as scum just in case Ed would be killed/lynched before he could use it. -Night Two I targeted **Idle Thoughts** but that did not stop his combustion: [QUOTE=storyteller0910] You used one of your talismans in an effort to protect **Idle Thoughts**. Unfortunately, it could not save him from whatever caused his death. You have X talismans remaining. [/QUOTE] -Night Three didn’t happen -Night Four I missed the deadline (was doubting between NAF or Drain Bead) and got it into my head that since Dusk was late Dawn would be two. Sorry town :(. The upside is that it gives me an extra Talisman to use in the future which why I didn’t mind a mass claim Today. -I also usually provide reasons to the moderator why I’m taking actions so I don’t think Brewha doing that is a scum tell. [QUOTE=Natlaw] Since there is likely a lot of killers around I’ll use two talismans: one on **Oy!** and on **Natlaw** (myself). Oy!'s powers as claimed aren’t that big of a thread to scum (one time tracking only). He also has three protects of varying efficiency - compared to my own power that may mean town doesn’t have a full time protector or he’s lying - but I doubt that. So I might as well try to convince him to use the doll or crystal - but that would probably give me away as doctor. Which would be bad incase of block or redirects. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Natlaw] Things to worry about: -scum saw me target Oy! or took a good look at my advice to him and guessed I’m a doctor -Idle is lying and used a fake claim to get out of case against him. -I need to conserve talismans I use a talisman on **Idle Thoughts** Night Two. I hope Oy! uses the mirror on Idle so my talisman can protect them both. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Natlaw] I considered asking to be voted for Today since the lynch was set anyway but I’m thinking then I would have to self protect anyway and use it right up. I won’t be using any talisman Night Three. Not confident enough Drain Bead or Mahaloth are town or worth saying. I’ll keep them for the future. This way I might get scared and create a new talisman from those emotions 😉 [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Natlaw changing his mind] NAF is right that he is mostly confirmed and there are at least three killers out there. I’ll use a talisman on **NAF** Night Three. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2593 "2010-11-03T21:40:54Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > You’re right, brewha. You do look scummy. Thanks for hanging a lantern on it to try to deflect it. > \*\* > Vote brewha\*\* Color me baffled. 😕 I was saying that my editing and waffling looked scummy. Posting my role was what caused both. I’m not ‘hanging a lantern’ on anything. However this opportunistic vote with no real reasoning does look quite scummy. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2594 "2010-11-03T21:43:31Z")
I’ve been in a few games with Story. In my first with a power role (I think it was when I was the scarecrow in arkham?) I asked him and he told me that he likes the extras in the action PMs. Gives more entertainment to the spoiled thread and the post game wrap up. But, I see this has already been covered. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2595 "2010-11-03T21:47:36Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > What do you mean by saying that your claim takes some heat off the other more useful roles, especially the masons? It seems like you are telling them not to target you toNight. > > . I mean that the more power roles that are out there, the bigger the pool of candidates that scum have to pick from for a night kill. If the only two power roles that exist are the masons, there’s a really good chance that one of them will be NKd by scum this evening. Get it? If I"m targeted tonight, they’ll get a number that does not match a number of any previous kills. That I can guarantee. It’s a waste because it won’t prove I’m scum, won’t prove I’m town, and won’t do anyone any good. I think that they should pick someone who’s number may actually mean something. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2596 "2010-11-03T21:51:37Z")
Sorry about the multiple posts. I’m just trying to give each question an honest answer. > [@Total\_Lost](#): > > No. We would have confirmed that you can block. That would still not be a confirmation of you alignment. > This is the second time you have made that assumption. We have confirmed that I can block and I’m either a cautious townie or a horrible scum player. What reason would scum possibly have to not block each and every night? They know who is on their side. They know they aren’t going to interfere with their own agenda. I would encourage OAOWs to post the exact PM Story gave him about night two and challenge anyone else to confirm that the same happened to them because I know he’s the only one I blocked, but it may out OAOWs. As what? I have no idea - but I’m not going to force the issue on him yet. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2597 "2010-11-03T21:56:57Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > I mean that the more power roles that are out there, the bigger the pool of candidates that scum have to pick from for a night kill. If the only two power roles that exist are the masons, there’s a really good chance that one of them will be NKd by scum this evening. Get it? > > If I"m targeted tonight, they’ll get a number that does not match a number of any previous kills. That I can guarantee. It’s a waste because it won’t prove I’m scum, won’t prove I’m town, and won’t do anyone any good. I think that they should pick someone who’s number may actually mean something. **Oy!** and **Drain Bead** have been alive for a while now and they are claimed power roles. If the scum want to kill the Masons, they will. Or rather, without any other claims, the scum may have assumed the Masons were protected and not tried to kill either of them. Either way, I don’t think your claim changes the way the scum may or may not decide who to kill. As for the second paragraph, again, this is based on what you are telling us. It’s just as likely that \*\*Stan \*\*or **NP** will want to investigate you in order to confirm you (or confirm you as well as they can - I’m still not quite sure what they can do). A confirmed roleblocker could be very useful, especially if you get input from the Masons as to who you should block. If we are down a kill the next Day, you may have found a killer. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2598 "2010-11-03T22:00:52Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > I’ve been in a few games with Story. In my first with a power role (I think it was when I was the scarecrow in arkham?) I asked him and he told me that he likes the extras in the action PMs. Gives more entertainment to the spoiled thread and the post game wrap up. But, I see this has already been covered. I guess I learned something new then. Happens every game! ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2599 "2010-11-03T22:12:43Z")
It sure looks like **brewha** is trying hard to get confirmed. It worries me. I don’t think we have confirmed that you can block. OneAndOnly confirmed that you can block, but we still have to consider whether OneAndOnly is telling us the truth. And even if OneAndOnly is telling the truth, and no one else claims to have gotten a message about being blocked, I still don’t see why you could not be a scum roleblocker. As a scum roleblocker you could have blocked a non-role on night one, OAOW on night 2, nothing happened on night 3, and you were too late to block last night, as claimed. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2600 "2010-11-03T22:29:38Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > I would encourage OAOWs to post the exact PM Story gave him about night two and challenge anyone else to confirm that the same happened to them because I know he’s the only one I blocked, but it may out OAOWs. As what? I have no idea - but I’m not going to force the issue on him yet. Also is there anyone who got a message they were blocked Night one? If Telcontar attacked NPhase/Chip and special ed used a extra kill on MHaye then there is no reason for peeker to not have blocked (unless stealing the book?). Only Oy! had claimed at that point and says he wasn’t blocked so there could be someone out there who was blocked Night One (if blocked players get a message). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=129) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=131)