# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2601 "2010-11-03T23:32:09Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
>
> We have confirmed that I can block and I’m either a cautious townie or a horrible scum player.
> 
> What reason would scum possibly have to not block each and every night? They know who is on their side. They know they aren’t going to interfere with their own agenda.

I can think of a couple of reasons - and so I’m sure you can as well.  
A RB (no matter what alignment) can miss a deadline. A scum RB might have to give up their Night action to preform the NK, to pass on the book and so on.

I’m not saying you can’t be Town RB. But I am saying that proving you can block will not prove your alignment. And that will be the case even if you were the greatest mafia-player to walk the earth.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2602 "2010-11-03T23:45:03Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> It sure looks like **brewha** is trying hard to get confirmed. It worries me.
> 
> I don’t think we have confirmed that you can block. OneAndOnly confirmed that you can block, but we still have to consider whether OneAndOnly is telling us the truth. And even if OneAndOnly is telling the truth, and no one else claims to have gotten a message about being blocked, I still don’t see why you could not be a scum roleblocker. As a scum roleblocker you could have blocked a non-role on night one, OAOW on night 2, nothing happened on night 3, and you were too late to block last night, as claimed.

So sorry to put you in such a fret. I’m trying not to get lynched. I’m trying to help the town win. Honestly, even if I do get lynched, I feel our chances are really good to win. And I can finish the game spoiled and reading at my leisure.

Would you feel better if I blocked you tonight? If I blocked someone designated by one of our masons? I honestly have no idea on whom to use it, so I’m happy to oblige.  
Those reasons, TL, all fall under “really bad scum play”. I did think of one, though. Maybe mine was a one shot deal and I used it on wanderers. But, that one I can disprove this evening. I guess there is the NK deal. But when I have been scum, each scum has to kill one night. So, while that may explain one non block, it wouldn’t explain the rest.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2603 "2010-11-04T00:03:42Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> However this opportunistic vote with no real reasoning does look quite scummy.

Well, if it looks scummy, I’m surprised you haven’t voted me.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2604 "2010-11-04T00:06:21Z")

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I’ve asked story if he can find a replacement for me, but until that happens, I’ll try to participate enough to avoid getting myself modkilled. As it stands, I have the use of a laptop for the next 24 hours or so, after which I’ll be totally cut off for at least 3-4 days. If no replacement player is forthcoming by the time I get home from work tomorrow, I’m intending to roleclaim.

If anybody has any questions, I’d ask that they flag them up clearly for me. Given the amount of other crap I’ve got to sort out, and the volume of posts this game produces, I’ll only going to have time to skim the discussions before disappearing again.  
@Normal Phase

Thanks for passing on the message, and for your kind expressions of sympathy for my plight. I can’t tell you how frustrating it was to have to drop out of so many awesome games just when I had the time to really throw myself into them.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2605 "2010-11-04T00:14:21Z")

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Today has turned into a veritable firehose of claimed information and not much of it in the shape of anything I was expecting, and I like to think I had an open mind of what to expect. I’ll be in the corner digesting for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2606 "2010-11-04T00:39:58Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> @Normal Phase
> 
> Thanks for passing on the message, and for your kind expressions of sympathy for my plight. I can’t tell you how frustrating it was to have to drop out of so many awesome games just when I had the time to really throw myself into them.

_hugs_

Do what you can.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2607 "2010-11-04T00:50:27Z")

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> [@Natlaw](#):
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> Also is there anyone who got a message they were blocked Night one? If Telcontar attacked NPhase/Chip and special ed used a extra kill on MHaye then there is no reason for peeker to not have blocked (unless stealing the book?).
> 
> Only Oy! had claimed at that point and says he wasn’t blocked so there could be someone out there who was blocked Night One (if blocked players get a message).

Since I haven’t been entirely clear about Night One – 'twasn’t me. Wasn’t Stanislaus either if I’m counting right.

Also, I’m willing to help vote you into second place, I think, though it depends on how the voting is going otherwise. Unfortunately, we don’t have an infinite amount of time. We’ll need to start making decisions rather soon. I’ll give ten bucks to every townie who casts a reasoned vote by the time I wake up in the morning. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2608 "2010-11-04T03:00:43Z")

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I could always use $10.

**Vote: brewha**

For someone who was suspicious of peeker on Day 1, I find it amazing that he never voted him. I always seem to scutinize more carefully the posts of people I find suspicious, and find scummy things even when they are not scum. I find it odd that brewha claims to have been suspicious of peeker on Day 1, but was not the one who originally brought forth the suspicions on peeker. Even when the suspicions and votes started, brewha remained focused on NAF.

> [@brewha](#):
>
> Well, that’s alot out in the open all at once.
> 
> The mason thing had to come out to verify numbers, but I think it may have been a bit premature. I’m going to suggest that you investigate someone other than me - simply because I can guarantee that it will not give you any useful info.
> 
> Of course you’re not going to believe me, even though I’ve played a very nonscummy game. I’ve only voted for scum (afaik) and I have not been in on any town lynches. I even voted for Telcontar day one. But, yeah that could have been a scum bussing, right?
> 
> Anyway, I’m fine claiming. more to follow.

Why did he vote Telcontar Day 1, if he was suspicious of peeker? Why didn’t he try to block Telcontar?

His claim toDay, I found just a little off, but can’t put my finger on anything other than he spent a lot of time trying to convince us that he is confirmed town. He just seemed to be protesting a little too much.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2609 "2010-11-04T03:02:57Z")

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NETA: There’s also the whole weird unvote of Mrs. even though he thought her scummy, and voting lilflower even when he thought her town, because he forgot about PFKs?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2610 "2010-11-04T04:21:36Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> I get it. It’s tricky being a roleblocker on Night One. Simply put, the odds that the persons you’re blocking is trying to help town are much higher than that they’re trying to hurt town.
> 
> Doesn’t remove the stink from him, but I certainly get that part of it (although I’m a reckless player – I’d probably have tried a block anyhow).

Yes, it’s one thing if you have no good scum reads on anyone and don’t want to mess things up on Night 1, but if he’s claiming to have a Scum Vibe, it doesn’t make much sense to not use his power.

> [@lilflower](#):
>
> Agreed. What I don’t understand is why tell \*\*story \*\*all about it. He’s the mod. He won’t comment on it (I would assume). Now if he were telling us about it here in the Day thread (outside of a quoted PM), I could understand wanting to explain it to us. But to put it in a PM to mod that he then quotes back to us seems unnecessary if he were town (if he were scum, he may want it to look somehow more “official” that he thought about blocking \*\*peeker \*\*Night 1). Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t usually give a lot of background on my Night actions because I don’t expect the mod to say anything about it so why bother.

As others have said, some mods encourage tossing out your thoughts, they can be passed on to the peanut gallery which, in my experience, makes the watching of the game more interesting.

> [@lilflower](#):
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> **Oy!** and **Drain Bead** have been alive for a while now and they are claimed power roles. If the scum want to kill the Masons, they will. Or rather, without any other claims, the scum may have assumed the Masons were protected and not tried to kill either of them. Either way, I don’t think your claim changes the way the scum may or may not decide who to kill.

If \*\*Drain’s \*\*claim is to be believed, she is now essentially Vanilla and not a good example to use. Likewise **Oy!** with whatever objects she may still possess; none of them were particularly dangerous.

> [@TexCat](#):
>
> It sure looks like **brewha** is trying hard to get confirmed. It worries me.
> 
> I don’t think we have confirmed that you can block. OneAndOnly confirmed that you can block, but we still have to consider whether OneAndOnly is telling us the truth. And even if OneAndOnly is telling the truth, and no one else claims to have gotten a message about being blocked, **I still don’t see why you could not be a scum roleblocker**. As a scum roleblocker you could have blocked a non-role on night one, OAOW on night 2, nothing happened on night 3, and you were too late to block last night, as claimed.

Bolding mine. You mean other than the fact that \*\*peeker \*\*is a confirmed scum roleblocker. Do you think there are two? Or maybe two separate scum factions, each with their own roleblocker?

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2611 "2010-11-04T05:40:32Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> You mean other than the fact that \*\*peeker \*\*is a confirmed scum roleblocker. Do you think there are two? Or maybe two separate scum factions, each with their own roleblocker?

Well, there is that. But since lilflower is claiming to be a town stand-by, I see no reason why brewha could not be a scum stand-by. And if the scum stand-by is a one-shot power like lilflower’s, then that would also explain there only being one message about being role-blocked?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2612 "2010-11-04T08:35:53Z")

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I have been conflicted on claiming becuase I have 2 pieces of information. One that I think will help town to be revealed, and one that I think will not help town. 3 pieces if you count the role block thing.

Here is the pm from story about the role block

> [@](#):
>
> Night Two
> 
> * * *
> 
> At the last moment, you decided not to use any powers on Night Two. Just seemed more appropriate somehow.
> 
> (You have been role-blocked).

Here is my role pm

> [@](#):
>
> Welcome to the game; you are the The Tabloid Reporter
> 
> ALIGNMENT: Town  
> GENERIC: Investigator  
> WIN CONDITION: All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> 
> During your third year as a journalism major at UCLA, you contracted a dreadful case of hoof-and-mouth disease after an especially ill-advised trip to a local fraternity party. Unfortunately, thanks to the subsequent period of recovery and quarantine, you were quite literally sick the day they taught ethics at journalism school. When you graduated, you found a job photoshopping unflattering pictures of celebrities for The Daily Tattler; things just sort of snowballed from there.
> 
> Sadly enough, covering this event: a half-baked reality TV show set in a supposedly haunted cabin where dozens of college kids were ritually slaughtered some years ago - supposedly the work of Demons summoned by a cursed book - marks the deepest foray into legitimate news of your mostly undistinguished career. Your role here is clear: you will ask inappropriately personal questions at critical junctions, file misleading and badly written reports to your editor, who will run them alongside pictures of guys in Halloween costumes intended to represent “demons,” and - let’s face it - probably get fileted by a demon with a barbed tail about halfway through the movie’s second act.
> 
> Hey, it’s a living.
> 
> POWERS:
> 
> 1. As a journalist you have certain skills and resources you can use to try and break that juicy story:
> 
> Stakeout: Allows you to Watch a player of your choice; you will learn who targets them (but not what was done, nor what your target might have done to others).
> 
> Zoom Lens: Allows you to follow a player of your choice and learn who, if anyone, your target targets and what type of action was taken (Investigative, Protective, Aggressive, Other).
> 
> Police contact: Allows you learn the role name and generic power description of a player of your choice.
> 
> Friendly coroner: Allows you to choose any dead player, and you will learn the nature of that player’s power, as well as how (s)he used it on the Night (s)he died.

Night one I used stakeout on NAF. Figured watching the guy with the book would make sense

And here is what i got

> [@](#):
>
> Night One Results
> 
> * * *
> 
> Aside from you yourself, NAF1138 was targeted by GuiriEnEspana and Idle Thoughts on Night One.

So, **vote Tom Scud**

As I believe you have the book and are a PFK.

Night two I was role blocked.

Night 3 didn’t happen.

Night 4 I used my police contact, and here’s the thing. I hit the Doc

> [@](#):
>
> Results
> 
> * * *
> 
> \<redacted\> is the Voodoo Witch Doctor. His power is protective.

What is best to do here? keep the Doc id under wraps, or get it out there?

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2613 "2010-11-04T09:11:09Z")

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Natlaw has claimed Voodoo Witchdoctor. Is this the name you got?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2614 "2010-11-04T09:17:47Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> Natlaw has claimed Voodoo Witchdoctor. Is this the name you got?

Yeah. So much for the big secret. I had missed that. Time to go through the last couple of days again I guess.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2615 "2010-11-04T09:37:17Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> I’ll give ten bucks to every townie who casts a reasoned vote by the time I wake up in the morning. 🙂

Looks like OAOW won that round.

I’ll be more than happy to help Natlaw if needed. But since all you guy know is that I’m not a demon, I’ll consider myself non-comfirmed and vote

**Tom Scud**

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2616 "2010-11-04T09:42:37Z")

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So the options are:

1. You and Natlaw are both scum using up fake power roles to try and convince us you are town
2. You are scum claiming prior knowledge of an already revealed power role to try to convince us you are town and very cleverly making it look like you didn’t see that reveal
3. You’re both town

Before I make a decision, I’m going to go and check what you were saying about Guiri/Tom after Night One.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2617 "2010-11-04T09:56:10Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
>
> So the options are:
> 
> 1. You and Natlaw are both scum using up fake power roles to try and convince us you are town
> 2. You are scum claiming prior knowledge of an already revealed power role to try to convince us you are town and very cleverly making it look like you didn’t see that reveal
> 3. You’re both town
> 
> Before I make a decision, I’m going to go and check what you were saying about Guiri/Tom after Night One.

Not much, because at the time i was more suspicious of Idle due to his 180 on NAF, given that I knew he had targeted NAF he was looking likely to have the book himself.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2618 "2010-11-04T10:14:28Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
>
> So the options are:
> 
> 1. You and Natlaw are both scum using up fake power roles to try and convince us you are town

In which case lynching them would be an excellent idea.

> [@Stanislaus](#):
>
> 1. You are scum claiming prior knowledge of an already revealed power role to try to convince us you are town and very cleverly making it look like you didn’t see that reveal

If we lynch Tom Scud and he flips town we would go back and take a closer look at OAOW and likely lynch him. ATM a 1:1 is not bad for Town.

> [@Stanislaus](#):
>
> 1. You’re both town

The Tom better show up with a really good explanation, don’t he?

And there might be other options:

1. Both er PFK/3rd parties  
Still a good idea to lynch them

2. One is Scum, on is PFK/3rd parties  
Still a good idea to lynch them

3. One is Town, one is PFK/3rd parties  
Again I think that deal would be in Town’s best interest right now

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2619 "2010-11-04T11:49:51Z")

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> [@Total\_Lost](#):
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> If we lynch Tom Scud and he flips town we would go back and take a closer look at OAOW and likely lynch him. ATM a 1:1 is not bad for Town.

No question. This one best come back as anti-town or the rope will get mighty short for **OAOW**.

Vote **Tom Scud**

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2620 "2010-11-04T11:51:38Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
>
> I could always use $10.
> 
> **Vote: brewha**
> 
> For someone who was suspicious of peeker on Day 1, I find it amazing that he never voted him. I always seem to scutinize more carefully the posts of people I find suspicious, and find scummy things even when they are not scum. I find it odd that brewha claims to have been suspicious of peeker on Day 1, but was not the one who originally brought forth the suspicions on peeker. Even when the suspicions and votes started, brewha remained focused on NAF.
> 
> Why did he vote Telcontar Day 1, if he was suspicious of peeker? Why didn’t he try to block Telcontar?
> 
> His claim toDay, I found just a little off, but can’t put my finger on anything other than he spent a lot of time trying to convince us that he is confirmed town. He just seemed to be protesting a little too much.

I never said that I KNEW Peeker was scum. All I said was, “I’m getting a strong feeling that Peeker is scum, but nothing I can make a case on”

And that was based purely on him playing the game sanely and making coherent posts. I can’t really call him out on that. But, I like to let Story know what I"m thinking when I tell him my actions. We’ve been over this.

I did have enough suspicion on Telcontar to vote for him - which is why I did.

If you are amazed by this, then I guess you are easily amazed.

And, in light of all that, you are voting for me because you found my claim “just a little off”? Because I want people to believe that I’m not scum?

Truly, yours is a dizzying intelect.

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