# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2821 "2010-11-09T15:56:24Z")

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If we trust Hal and OAOW, that suggests that Cookies is PFK and McG is scum. Cookies is probably the priority in that case.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2822 "2010-11-09T15:58:05Z")

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**Cookies** , care to share anything with the rest of the class?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2823 "2010-11-09T16:17:55Z")

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I can go with trusting the Masons. What was **Cookies’** claim again?

**vote Cookies**

Remember, we need to make sure **Natlaw** gets #2.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2824 "2010-11-09T16:19:07Z")

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NETA: Just looked it up, **Cookies** claimed Vanilla.

Time to die, liar.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2825 "2010-11-09T16:21:28Z")

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Gaaa, I knewitknewitknewitknewitknewit, but I didn’t open my mouth because it was all based on…well, baseless hunches. But the last two Days, everything that **Cookies** posted just _reeked_ of…hell, I don’t even know what to call it. Playing a perfect line of trying to be _just_ helpful enough or something. Either way, I knewitknewitknewit!

**vote CTTDSWHCookies**

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2826 "2010-11-09T16:25:09Z")

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**unvote OneandOnlyWanderers**

**vote CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies**

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2827 "2010-11-09T16:36:46Z")

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Yep.

**Vote Cookies**

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2828 "2010-11-09T16:39:32Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> **Natlaw** , do you know if being a second-place lynch candidate would help you again today?

The extra Talisman from being runner-up for lynch was a one-per-game type of deal (see my PM).

For the record I protected both **Stanislaus** and **Normal Phase** last Night - the latter successfully from MrsMcGinty if Wanderers is to be believed! 🆒

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2829 "2010-11-09T16:39:40Z")

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Oh, I believe the Masons. **Cookies** ’ claim was vanilla. But a number of you have said that Lynch All Liars is a bad policy. So I’ll at least let **Cookies** speak before voting for her.

I’m wondering about **brewha** and **One And Only Wanderers**. Why would **brewha** block a vanilla player? It’s funny, isn’t it, how little he’s actually managed to block? Chose not to act Night 1, blocked **OAOW** Night 2, Night 3 canceled, Night 4 didn’t get his vote in on time, and now Night 5 he blocks vanilla? He made a big deal of proving his blocking ability last Night, then chooses a target who can neither confirm nor deny? Admittedly, I wasn’t wild about the idea of his blocking **OAOW** , because I thought **OAOW** was a Town Power playing his own strategy (I didn’t believe that holding off on **Tom** was as scummy as some of you did, largely because of **Nanook** in LotR), but now I’m beginning to wonder.

**OAOW** _says_ that **Mrs McGinty** attempted an aggressive act last night on **Normal Phase**. What if _he_ was the one who attempted an aggressive act on **Normal Phase** last night? I’m guessing **Normal** was protected; that’s certainly the reason I protected **Natlaw**. If **brewha** has at least a one shot block, he could have used it on **McGinty** last Night. OAOW accuses **McGinty** ; **McGinty** claims to have been Blocked. This bit is important, because otherwise there might be some inconvenient action that **McGinty** takes and talks about out there to support a **McGinty** alibi.

I know, it’s a crazy theory, and “it could have been” doesn’t equal “it did.” But I wanted to point out that we only have **OAOW** ’s word for **brewha** ’s blocking, and no confirmation at all on **OAOW** ’s supposed Zoom on **McGinty**.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2830 "2010-11-09T17:00:10Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Oh, I believe the Masons. **Cookies** ’ claim was vanilla. But a number of you have said that Lynch All Liars is a bad policy. So I’ll at least let **Cookies** speak before voting for her.
> 
> I’m wondering about **brewha** and **One And Only Wanderers**. Why would **brewha** block a vanilla player? It’s funny, isn’t it, how little he’s actually managed to block? Chose not to act Night 1, blocked **OAOW** Night 2, Night 3 canceled, Night 4 didn’t get his vote in on time, and now Night 5 he blocks vanilla? He made a big deal of proving his blocking ability last Night, then chooses a target who can neither confirm nor deny? Admittedly, I wasn’t wild about the idea of his blocking **OAOW** , because I thought **OAOW** was a Town Power playing his own strategy (I didn’t believe that holding off on **Tom** was as scummy as some of you did, largely because of **Nanook** in LotR), but now I’m beginning to wonder.
> 
> **OAOW** _says_ that **Mrs McGinty** attempted an aggressive act last night on **Normal Phase**. What if _he_ was the one who attempted an aggressive act on **Normal Phase** last night? I’m guessing **Normal** was protected; that’s certainly the reason I protected **Natlaw**. If **brewha** has at least a one shot block, he could have used it on **McGinty** last Night. OAOW accuses **McGinty** ; **McGinty** claims to have been Blocked. This bit is important, because otherwise there might be some inconvenient action that **McGinty** takes and talks about out there to support a **McGinty** alibi.
> 
> I know, it’s a crazy theory, and “it could have been” doesn’t equal “it did.” But I wanted to point out that we only have **OAOW** ’s word for **brewha** ’s blocking, and no confirmation at all on **OAOW** ’s supposed Zoom on **McGinty**.

But if we lynch **Mrs. McGinty** and he turns up town, we would just lynch **OAOW**. That seems like a big risk for someone with suspicion on them already.

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2831 "2010-11-09T17:00:34Z")

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But OaOW claimed McGinty’s action before brewha revealed who he blocked which could have caught OaOW lying.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2832 "2010-11-09T17:53:10Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Oh, I believe the Masons. **Cookies** ’ claim was vanilla.
> 
> Why would **brewha** block a vanilla player?

I think you’ve answered your own question. Unless you know more than I do, Texcat only claimed Vanilla.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2833 "2010-11-09T18:10:26Z")

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**Natlaw** , I’m assuming in my scenario that both **brewha** and **OAOW** are Scum together.

**lilflower** , I’m not an experienced player, but at this point, sinking what may be the most formidable Town player (i.e. **McGinty** ) and surviving another Night to dance my feet off toMorrow might be good enough for me if I were Scum.

Look, I came into the thread this morning believing that **OAOW** was Town, and hoping to talk those people who’d been suspicious of him yesterDay out of it. But, as I reviewed yesterDay, my mind kept coming up with “yeah-buts,” that is, possible ways that **OAOW** might be Scum. He’s been enormously helpful to us in that he caught **Tom** , and I’ve been rather suspicious of **Mrs McGinty** since **peeker** went down. I found **Mrs McGinty** ’s claim to be suspect as well, and thought that killing off **OAOW** , who looks to be incredibly powerful, was insane.

But, I’m bad at this, and I _know_ I’m bad at this. So I’ve been trying to think about how I could be wrong whenever I suspect something. Thus I came up with a possible way that **OAOW** could be Scum and put it out there. It’s not likely, but it’s _possible_ that **OAOW** and **brewha** are in collusion, and are lying. If you don’t like the possibility, don’t vote for it. I’m not voting for it, but I’m also not ready to execute **Mrs McGinty** on **OAOW** ’s word alone either.

**brewha** , you made a real point of how you were going to prove your claim last Night. Sure, **texcat** might have been (or still might be) a false claim, but blocking her proved absolutely nothing about yourself.

That being said, I’ve been wondering why there were no deaths last Night, and your block of **texcat** , if it actually happened, could be an explanation. I told **natlaw** to protect **Normal** and **Stanislaus** last Night quite openly, and he did. They were the logical people to be protected. If **OAOW** is telling the truth, one bad guy attacked Normal anyway, but would both? (I’m assuming that both Scum and 3rd party had a Night Kill available) Wouldn’t someone have attacked **OAOW** or **natlaw** (which would have killed me) or **McGinty** (of course, Ash might be unkillable until something else happens, as he was in Evil Dead 1)? If **brewha** really did block **texcat** , then we need to look at **texcat** as a possible killer who was blocked last Night.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2834 "2010-11-09T18:21:26Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> **Natlaw** , I’m assuming in my scenario that both **brewha** and **OAOW** are Scum together.
> 
> **lilflower** , I’m not an experienced player, but at this point, sinking what may be the most formidable Town player (i.e. **McGinty** ) and surviving another Night to dance my feet off toMorrow might be good enough for me if I were Scum.
> 
> Look, I came into the thread this morning believing that **OAOW** was Town, and hoping to talk those people who’d been suspicious of him yesterDay out of it. But, as I reviewed yesterDay, my mind kept coming up with “yeah-buts,” that is, possible ways that **OAOW** might be Scum. He’s been enormously helpful to us in that he caught **Tom** , and I’ve been rather suspicious of **Mrs McGinty** since **peeker** went down. I found **Mrs McGinty** ’s claim to be suspect as well, and thought that killing off **OAOW** , who looks to be incredibly powerful, was insane.
> 
> But, I’m bad at this, and I _know_ I’m bad at this. So I’ve been trying to think about how I could be wrong whenever I suspect something. Thus I came up with a possible way that **OAOW** could be Scum and put it out there. It’s not likely, but it’s _possible_ that **OAOW** and **brewha** are in collusion, and are lying. If you don’t like the possibility, don’t vote for it. I’m not voting for it, but I’m also not ready to execute **Mrs McGinty** on **OAOW** ’s word alone either.
> 
> **brewha** , you made a real point of how you were going to prove your claim last Night. Sure, **texcat** might have been (or still might be) a false claim, but blocking her proved absolutely nothing about yourself.
> 
> That being said, I’ve been wondering why there were no deaths last Night, and your block of **texcat** , if it actually happened, could be an explanation. I told **natlaw** to protect **Normal** and **Stanislaus** last Night quite openly, and he did. They were the logical people to be protected. If **OAOW** is telling the truth, one bad guy attacked Normal anyway, but would both? (I’m assuming that both Scum and 3rd party had a Night Kill available) Wouldn’t someone have attacked **OAOW** or **natlaw** (which would have killed me) or **McGinty** (of course, Ash might be unkillable until something else happens, as he was in Evil Dead 1)? If **brewha** really did block **texcat** , then we need to look at **texcat** as a possible killer who was blocked last Night.

don’t forget someone else confirmed my investigative targeting of Natlaw.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2835 "2010-11-09T18:25:00Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> **brewha** , you made a real point of how you were going to prove your claim last Night. Sure, **texcat** might have been (or still might be) a false claim, but blocking her proved absolutely nothing about yourself.

Well, this is the dope, so … CITE?

I did ask if there was a way I could prove myself. I did ask if anyone - Masons especially - wanted to give me a specific target to block. I got suggestions. I got nothing specific. I ended up blocking who I thought was most scummy and most “under the radar”. I’d like to see you point out how I made a real point of how I was going to prove my claim last Night.

Bottom line is - no one died. Every pro town power role (as far as I know at this point) succeeded in their powers last Night. If I were a scum roleblocker (which let me remind you we already have a dead one) why wouldn’t I have blocked a town power role?

If you think I have a one shot block power, I could block you tonight just to prove my point - though I don’t think that’s in the town’s best interest.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2836 "2010-11-09T18:26:08Z")

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Someone else – being Oy herself, right?

Stanislaus, can you put your whole list here again in one place?

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2837 "2010-11-09T18:27:03Z")

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Eesh, that’s the second time I got distracted by Oy!'s smudges and forgot what I was doing.

Vote Cometothedarksidewehavecookies

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2838 "2010-11-09T18:36:16Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Someone else – being Oy herself, right?

Yes, I saw **OAOW** investigate **Natlaw**. It proves investigative power, not alignment.

Yes, I smudged you, **brewha** , along with a bunch of other people. I wanted to put out possible ideas. That being said, I think the most obvious line of reasoning is usually going to be right. So, if I had to vote this minute on the people I find most likely to be non-town, it would be **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** , **Mrs McGinty** , and **texcat** , in that order. But I said I’d wait to let **Cookies** speak before I vote, and so I will.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2839 "2010-11-09T20:37:28Z")

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**Vote: Cookies**

This one seems clear-cut. The masons have confirmed that Cookies killed Omi, and thus lied about being vanilla. (And I am in the lynch all liars camp.) I do wonder what Cookies did last night. We don’t have any indication of that do we?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2840 "2010-11-09T22:11:10Z")

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No I have nothing to say. 🙂

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