# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/381 "2010-10-04T20:21:53Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > It worked in Terminator2 and I’ve seen it work in other games as well. But in the T2 (this board) it worked rather early in the game. Yes, but T2 was a completely open game with a flawed design. When the Assassin T-1000 died there was no downside to a mass claim, while their was considerable upside in that all of the power roles became confirmed town. This is a closed game, so power role claims are not immediately confirmable. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/382 "2010-10-04T20:27:30Z")
:sigh: As moderator of Lord of the Rings, you have to understand that I am against a full mass claim. In any quality game, the game is setup in a way where a really early mass claim will most likely do more damage to Town than Scum. If it doesn’t, 'the game is not well designed, such as in my LOST game. Players nearly mass claimed and broke the game. I, being a first time moderator, had to jump in and fix the game. It was embarrassing and annoying, but I did do it. So: 1. It will reveal power roles to the scum team and any third party that may exist. In Lord of the Rings, they had a little list of power roles to pick off. 2. It will produce hours(days?) of discussion about how many “letters” or “words” we have in our PM’s. This distracts us from actual discussion and is counter-productive. Just remember Day One in Lord of the Rings. 3. Honestly, it’s just kind of too metagaming and isn’t about finding scum within us. It’s about taking the mechanics of the game and breaking them. Consider me against it. Oh, and I wish I’d been around at 3:00. I would have made a grab at the book, too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/383 "2010-10-04T20:28:30Z")
Let me emphasize, everything I said was about an _early_ mass claim. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/384 "2010-10-04T20:28:53Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > > [@Total\_Lost](#): > > > > It worked in Terminator2 and I’ve seen it work in other games as well. But in the T2 (this board) it worked rather early in the game. > > Yes, but T2 was a completely open game with a flawed design. When the Assassin T-1000 died there was no downside to a mass claim, while their was considerable upside in that all of the power roles became confirmed town. This is a closed game, so power role claims are not immediately confirmable. I’m not saying that because it worked in T2 we should do it here as well. What I said was that it has worked - but that when the idea is presented, if you have never seen it work, I get why you think it sounds like a horrible way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/385 "2010-10-04T20:29:54Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > **NAF** , I’m guessing you meant to quote the post where Oy! asked “what you got?” and not the one you did? Cause otherwise it doesn’t make sense. **Oredigger** asked that. **NAF** was in fact quoting the correct post. I thought he was supporting a mass claim, whereas he was really supporting “mass bits of color.” ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/386 "2010-10-04T20:30:51Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > **Idle** has no real evidence for voting me. Most people in this game never have any “real evidence” for voting for others. They do so depending on what is suspicious, either in their opinion or something that everyone would find so. Like I said above, nothing personal, just how the game is played. I don’t like a mass claim either. Not at this early in the game. Even going under the impression scum might not have fake roles, they could still lie and we wouldn’t be any closer to finding one then before..whereas they could easily pick off the stronger roles one by one in the order of their choosing. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/387 "2010-10-04T20:33:59Z")
**@Idle, Suburban:** It won’t work because in all likelihood, scum have fake PMs. Storyteller helped craft the LOTR game, and in the spoiled thread he and Mahaloth were discussing how silly town was for assuming they as moderators hadn’t taken care of the possibility of a role claim or handshake. Obviously, I can’t speak with exact certainty, but I find it highly unlikely Storyteller forgot that discussion, forgot his derision of handshakes and mass claims unbalancing a game, and screwed scum over. So, Suburban, my third and fourth sentences DO make sense. Either scum have the tools to survive a mass claim or PM claim (that is, they have names and a PM that would pass a town smell test) or they don’t. And I don’t think those two choices are equally likely. I’m pretty sure Storyteller wouldn’t make the game that easy for us. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/388 "2010-10-04T20:38:09Z")
In a simple game a mass claim might give us “Town Cop” and “Town Doc”. I find it really hard to believe that Story have any standard roles in this game (maybe aside for vanilla, that is - and even that part was twisted in the Evil Dead no. 1). At this point I can’t see Town getting any useful from a claim. But I still like the idea of us claiming a bit from our role-PM. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/389 "2010-10-04T20:38:13Z")
Well, on Day One you don’t have much evidence. Later on, that becomes less and less true. Here’s the thing. Last Night, I wasn’t going to take an adversarial position against anyone, because my alignment wasn’t yet set. Someone I argued with last night could have been my teammate this morning. Hell, **Idle** , that doesn’t necessarily mean Scum vs. Town–we could have ended up as Masons together, and wouldn’t that be awkward, having to totally forget about you totally smudging me? (I wish I could remember the game where someone accused me of smudging them by lumping them into a category that included exactly one person. I can’t even remember if I was Scum in that one, although I’m pretty sure I was because, well, duh. It was pretty recent.) Anyway, maybe it’s just the way I play, but I wasn’t about to complain too much about what you did when I wasn’t sure if we’d end up having to make nice in the Morning and have THAT be questioned. You seem to have no such qualms, which to me says you already _knew_ we weren’t on the same team. That, or you didn’t care. Either way, anti-Town. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/390 "2010-10-04T20:40:31Z")
I am loving this games color, by the way. Very cool. 🙂 > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > > > **Idle** has no real evidence for voting me. > > Most people in this game never have any “real evidence” for voting for others. They do so depending on what is suspicious, either in their opinion or something that everyone would find so. > > Like I said above, nothing personal, just how the game is played. So isn’t this more of a placeholder vote, then? I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but it does sound like what you are saying. Vote the odds and change it if/when evidence arises? ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/391 "2010-10-04T20:49:19Z")
As far as I can remember, Story’s stance on early mass claims is that they are generally neutral. That is, it won’t really help or hurt much. I mean, yeah it exposes power roles(Like in LOTR…ya know, the one that Town won handily?), but it also forces the scum to make choices. Cover roles or not, they have to claim SOMETHING now. Claim a vanilla? Closes off a fake power role claim later, and potentially opens up the door for a Watcher/Tracker to catch them lying. Claim a power now? Hope you can back it up. etc etc. So personally, I don’t care either way. Someone want to explain in a little further detail the idea behind this color claim? I’m not quite sure I follow. Oh and Drain? If I had been scum, I totally would have recruited you too. But I’m also the guy who as scum in I don’t even remember what guy, made it a point to kill Mhaye like 4 times in the same game. (He kept subbing in, and we kept killing him immediately after he did.) ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/392 "2010-10-04T20:50:25Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > (I wish I could remember the game where someone accused me of smudging them by lumping them into a category that included exactly one person. I can’t even remember if I was Scum in that one, although I’m pretty sure I was because, well, duh. It was pretty recent.) I already said in an earlier post that I remembered it happening before (although I didn’t remember how many times it had happened before. I thought more than once…but it was just once). And that one time was you, yourself. So your reasoning there falls apart. You’re implying I knew it was you before. I didn’t. But no matter, I still find it suspicious and it’s still something I can see scum trying to throw off the scent. None of the rest of your post makes any sense. > [@](#): > > So isn’t this more of a placeholder vote, then? I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but it does sound like what you are saying. Vote the odds and change it if/when evidence arises? I’m confused why it would be seen as a placeholder vote. I’ve already said it a few times: I found her actions of talking to scum (not once but twice) as just off putting. Something I can easily see scum trying. So, going with my gut, I’m voting. Yes, if stronger suspicions arise, I’m not against changing my vote. This is how you play Mafia. 😛 (I know you know this already) ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/393 "2010-10-04T20:50:41Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > > > Listing _bits_ of our color was an interesting idea, though. Too bad it won’t work. Either scum have fake PMs or they don’t. They could pass a standard mass claim and a color claim, or they can’t. And I’m willing to bet Storyteller has covered their scummy butts with fake roles to claim anyway. > > So why reject it out of hand? Where is the harm to town? \*\*Writing off an idea because it might not, or even likely won’t, work is silly. \*\* Why cut off any avenues of productive information generation even if they might not work out? The game, for town, is about generating information and leveraging that information in combination with our time and numerical advantage. The best strategy for town is to generate as much information as possible while the numbers and time are still on our side. My bolding: Writing off ideas that probably won’t work is clever, not silly. As you point out, our time is limited and constantly decreasing. Spending half a Day deciding between a role claim or a colour claim, then enforcing participation on some suitably randomised rota (hello, time zone differences!), and finally trying to decide if we’ve actually learnt anything from the exercise, could quite easily be a big fat waste of time. If we think the chances are that story gave the scum cover roles that will let them skate through a mass claim then we should find something better to do than spin our wheels. For example, we could try to work out a strategy to deal with the Book. We appear to have dispensed with the option of **no-one** picking it up in public, for some reason. Maybe we can consider that for toMorrow. Obviously our goal is for the book to remain in the hands of confirmed, protected Town. However, for a Town member to achieve the condition of being both confirmed and protected is no easy process so we’re going to have to busk it for a while. For now, we at least know who has the Book during the Day. During the Night, given that ownership of the Book comes at the cost of using other Powers, I’m inclined to expect that our vanillas will be first in line for it. The question is whether they should announce their ownership, and when. I’m inclined to think that whoever had the Book should admit it immediately after Dawn. This will at least give us a “chain of custody” which, as we fill in role/side info as the game progresses, will at least tell us who’s been reading it. I strongly recommend that toMorrow, we leave the Book where it is. That is to say, unless and until we collectively agree that a named player should pick up the Book, we will lynch any player who picks up the Book. Anyone who wants to have a read is welcome to make a case for why they should. However, as per my early comments about time, this decision should be made either in the first twelve hours after Dawn or (my probable preference) in parallel to the ordinary business of the lynch. That is, we can keep hunting Scum even while we make a decision about the Book. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/394 "2010-10-04T20:50:51Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Funny. **Idle** is one of those players who, like **Normal Phase** , always thinks I’m Scum. And it’s true, they’re usually right, but that’s because I can’t remember the last time I wasn’t Scum and lived for longer than a Day. Cecil Pond, maybe? Really, my Night Zero shenanigans were me making it clear that I had _no desire to be Scum_, and hoping that they’d do the right thing. > > (The funny thing, as I mentioned in a PM to **story** when I finally got my role and knew I was off the hook, was that if I had been Scum, I would have recruited me. **story** said that he would have too. But I’m beginning to think that they had other plans.) And which other plans might those be? I’m just wondering why the WIFOM, you know? I was actually with you on the DON’T RECRUIT ME BEYOTCHES bit, because I’ve been there, but what were you trying to communicate here? May as well get the suspicion out of the way early, because you know it’s going to be there. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/395 "2010-10-04T20:55:15Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > At this point I can’t see Town getting any useful from a claim. > > But I still like the idea of us claiming a bit from our role-PM. Is there much of a difference? Have you seen the role PMs from the first Evil Dead game? There’s not much of the color you could quote without giving away your role… Here’s a small selection of role PMs:[spoiler] > [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are Vincent, the Dog Who Knows Things > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Detective > WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished, and there is no chance of an exclusive win for any third-party. > > BACKGROUND: > > In real life, dogs are pleasant companions, frequently entertaining, and usually very affectionate. They can learn a number of impressive tricks, if carefully and properly trained. > > In horror movies, however, dogs are psychic detectives, able to ferret out ill motives and mistruths long before their profoundly stupid owners. > > You are such a dog. So well honed are your instincts that you can determine whether a given statement made by an individual is the truth or not. Furthermore, your powers of nonverbal communication are so well-developed that the humans who interact with you are convinced that you are speaking to them in plain English. You’re pretty sure they don’t even realize that you’re a dog. > > So you’re not exactly among a pack of rocket scientists here, but if the Deadites slaughter the humans, there will be no biscuit, and you wish to eat a biscuit. So you’ll do your thing, growling ominously and hoping this is the kind of movie where the dog outruns the gas main explosion at the last second, and not the kind of movie where the dog takes a bullet for his master. > [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are the Inquisitive Fool > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Special > WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished, and there is no chance of an exclusive win for any third-party. > > BACKGROUND: > > The Person Who Messes With Forces They Were Never Meant to Understand is a staple of horror and related films since Carl Denham went to Skull Island, or before. This Person knows the risks, but an inquisitive spirit and a foolhardy nature leads him or her to disregard those risks in pursuit of forbidden knowledge. > > You know all about these things. Unbeknownst to the rest of the group, but knownst to you, there is a reason the Deadites have descended on this particular cabin in the woods. And that reason has two thumbs, and goes by the name of you. > > You found the Necronomicon Ex Mortis (loosely translated: Book of the Dead) in the cellar of this cabin. It was locked in a metal filing cabinet, which in turn was tucked away behind a wall of stone with the word “danger” scrawled on it in some viscous black-cherry-colored liquid. It was an interesting book, bound in what you’ve convinced yourself is light colored leather and emphatically not human flesh, and written in what you are nearly certain is ink (they had red pens in the tenth century BC, right?). Tied to the book by a thick cord is a long dagger; in case there is any doubt of the dagger’s function a small bullseye has been hastily affixed to the book’s cover with a label reading, loosely translated, “stab here.” Finally, a warning, translated into seven hundred languages and printed on the first page in huge letters - cautions DO NOT READ! > > Of course, you read the inscription (phonetically, you don’t speak Aramaic), and wakened the Deadites. You’re not made of stone, for God’s sake. You found that reading the inscription had a strange side-effect, apart from bringing down a plague of flesh-hungry demons on you and your friends: you can now read more! You are suddenly and inexplicably able to understand every word of the Necronomicon as if it were printed in your own mother tongue. Surely, if you read more of the book, more good things will happen! After all, you’re Inquisitive! And a Fool! > > Oh, and one more thing: maybe it’s just your own increasingly rabid paranoia, but you have a definite sense that someone would like to steal your Necronomicon for his or her own ends. And remember: you’re not paranoid if someone really is trying to take your precious. > [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are the Virginal Beauty > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Paranoid Doctor > WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished, and there is no chance of an exclusive win for any third-party. > > BACKGROUND: > > You are the heroine, the first listed female actor, name above the title. You work in Aisle Three at the local S-Mart branch, providing determinedly loyal S-mart service with a smile. You are beautiful, gentle, sensitive, well-spoken, almost certainly a natural blonde, and, most importantly, you are Saving Yourself for Marriage. > > Now, you know that there may be those for whom your vow of chastity may cause some frustration. Perhaps a few of your co-workers, friends, professors, clergy, nonimmediate family, or pets might have thoughts of a, you know, sexual nature. But so far, you’ve held firm. > > So long as your commitment remains steady, both you and the other partygoers will benefit from the special light that surrounds a Virginal Beauty at all times. But woe betide the Virginal Beauty whose spirit is weak; her special protection against the vagaries of life in a horror movie is forfeit. > [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are the Sorority President > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Mason > WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished, and there is no chance of an exclusive win for any third-party. > > BACKGROUND: > > There is a group likes yours in every horror movie. There are three of you, and you always walk down the hallway in a row. > > You are the big cheese, the queen bee, the mistress of all you survey; you are the President of the Xeta Xeta Xeta sorority. As far as the people who are attending this party are concerned, you are god. You’re played by Rachel McAdams, or possibly Rose McGowan (what, you never saw Jawbreaker? For shame!). Your parents may have neglected to pass on the “sweet” gene, but fortunately, you got two copies of the gene for ass-kicking. > > This party was your party from the ground up. You planned it, created the guest list, designed the posters and had them distributed by an army of brainless pledges, ordered the booze, and even served as bouncer to keep out a few of the more egregiously uninvited. > > And now a bunch of crashers think they’re going to ruin spring break just because they happen to be dead? Forget it. You’ll bury them. Again. > [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are an Alpha Redshirt > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Vanilla > WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished, and there is no chance of an exclusive win for any third-party. > > BACKGROUND: > > Every horror movie needs a collection of characters whose only purpose is to die, sometimes horribly, as they help the hero toward his/her goal of standing alone atop a pile of dead demons. Ever since the dying started, you’ve had a sneaking suspicion that you might just be one of those characters… a suspicion that is not at all ameliorated by the fact that, by blind coincidence, you happen to be wearing a nice, cheery red shirt. Your life expectancy is limited, and you have no special powers, abilities, or knowledge relevant to the situation at hand. Still, only the darkest of horror movies end with all the tertiary characters dead: you’ll just have to hope this is Scream and not Alien. [/spoiler]And, I’ll note that in that game there were two types of vanilla but both shared the majority of color - if that’s the case in this game, a partial quote from our role PMs could have the same effect as the VT handshake in LOTR. Of course we could always post a hash of our role PMs. : ducks and runs ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/396 "2010-10-04T20:56:41Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > > [@NAF1138](#): > > > > You, my friend, are not paying close enough attention. Go back and read that post again and this time notice what I quoted. > > > > My PM from Story: > > **NAF** , I’m guessing you meant to quote the post where Oy! asked “what you got?” and not the one you did? Cause otherwise it doesn’t make sense. Nope, I meant to quote what I quoted. I was addressing two separate topics in that single post. I’ll do my best to be a little more clear about that sort of thing in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/397 "2010-10-04T21:02:45Z")
In a well-designed game, mass role claims are suicide for the innocents. I believe this is a well-designed game. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/398 "2010-10-04T21:04:30Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > In a simple game a mass claim might give us “Town Cop” and “Town Doc”. I find it really hard to believe that Story have any standard roles in this game (maybe aside for vanilla, that is - and even that part was twisted in the Evil Dead no. 1). > > At this point I can’t see Town getting any useful from a claim. > > But I still like the idea of us claiming a bit from our role-PM. What advantage (to town) would this be? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/399 "2010-10-04T21:05:52Z")
I’m really not sure where we think a colour claim gets us. Going from Guiri’s reposted ED1 PMs, we either get something like this: > [@](#): > > In real life, dogs are pleasant companions, frequently entertaining, and usually very affectionate. They can learn a number of impressive tricks, if carefully and properly trained. Which doesn’t tell us anything but on the other hand doesn’t tell us anything, or this: > [@](#): > > This party was your party from the ground up. You planned it, created the guest list, designed the posters and had them distributed by an army of brainless pledges, ordered the booze, and even served as bouncer to keep out a few of the more egregiously uninvited. Which pretty much just screams “Power Role! I’m a Power Role! That’s me, here, with the role with the powers.” Can one of the advocates explain exactly what we expect to get out of this plan? Because my general instinct is no (see my previous post) and I’m not sure I see the advantage for us in this particular variation. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/400 "2010-10-04T21:09:17Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > I’m really not sure where we think a colour claim gets us. Going from Guiri’s reposted ED1 PMs, we either get something like this: > > > [@](#): > > > > In real life, dogs are pleasant companions, frequently entertaining, and usually very affectionate. They can learn a number of impressive tricks, if carefully and properly trained. > > Which doesn’t tell us anything but on the other hand doesn’t tell us anything, or this: > > > [@](#): > > > > This party was your party from the ground up. You planned it, created the guest list, designed the posters and had them distributed by an army of brainless pledges, ordered the booze, and even served as bouncer to keep out a few of the more egregiously uninvited. > > Which pretty much just screams “Power Role! I’m a Power Role! That’s me, here, with the role with the powers.” > > Can one of the advocates explain exactly what we expect to get out of this plan? Because my general instinct is no (see my previous post) and I’m not sure I see the advantage for us in this particular variation. I think the plan was to see who has similar wording in order to possibly get a handshake going. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=21)