# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/421 "2010-10-04T23:57:27Z")
I think the idea of posting anything from the PMs right now is only going to cause a lot of confusion and generate a lot of (most likely, unwarranted) suspicion. I foresee us spending too much time trying to read into what each player posted and seeing what it may or may not mean. It seems like a big distraction. I also think it would be pretty easy for the scum to fake something that can be easily incorporated into a fake claim. I don’t see any advantage for town to do this. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/422 "2010-10-04T23:58:51Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > You’re missing the point. If we have all players posting a “snip” of they PM Day 1. Not anything revealing their power, alignment, name - not at all. > But a snip - just a SNIP -of the color in their PM. > > Then later in game if they claim we have the snip. > And they will have to claim a PM to match the snip. > They can’t just pull a false-PM out of the Story Treasure-Box. They can’t make it up to fit the play they have played. > They will have to pick a claim that matches the color-claim of Day 1 AND they game they have been playing AND it has to add up. > > That’s why it’s brilliant. > > It’s not a claim for us to work on right now. It data. Left for us to go back to and look at later in game. AND it should help all Town Power Roles as well - because if I guess right every Story written PM will have small little drops of color all over them. > > It’s not a hand-shake. It’s more like putting your small savings in the bank for hard time to come. Careful you don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back there, **Total Lost**! Allow me. To give you a pat, not break your arm. And while “brilliant” may be a bit much, I will certainly say that the idea has merit. I’m on board with it. Kind of like bread crumbs that you announce. You show your crumb and leave it for everyone to see. If and when it becomes neccessary, you can explain what it means. I don’t really see a down side. Everyone is going to have to decide how much to post, though. Too much and you might give yourself away as a power role. Too little and you might be labeled scum for trying to hide something. I think it’s worth a shot, though. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/423 "2010-10-05T00:00:13Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > But if someone indeed did claim “In real life, dogs are pleasant companions, frequently entertaining, and usually very affectionate. They can learn a number of impressive tricks, if carefully and properly trained.” the the rest of their PM would have to match this claim. > > So if nothing else (and I too believe we have fake PMs for scum in this game) it wil force scum to make a choice. Right here. Day 1. > And they can’t take it back later - if they mess it up. > > It’s… it’s an insurance. Don’t you see? If the scum have fake PMs, don’t you think that whatever color they chose to post here would be from that fake PM and therefore if they ever posted their fake PM to support their fake claim, it would “match” as it were? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/424 "2010-10-05T00:01:16Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Everyone is going to have to decide how much to post, though. Too much and you might give yourself away as a power role. Too little and you might be labeled scum for trying to hide something. > > I think it’s worth a shot, though. Exactly the reason why it’s not worth a shot. Risk: Give away power roles Benefit: Lock Scum into a fake claim, which they most likely already have Small benefit, high Risk, not the gambit I like. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/425 "2010-10-05T00:04:11Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@brewha](#): > > > > Everyone is going to have to decide how much to post, though. Too much and you might give yourself away as a power role. Too little and you might be labeled scum for trying to hide something. > > > > I think it’s worth a shot, though. > > Exactly the reason why it’s not worth a shot. > > Risk: Give away power roles > Benefit: Lock Scum into a fake claim, which they most likely already have > > Small benefit, high Risk, not the gambit I like. My only correction would be: (Potentially) give away power roles AND (potentially) sabotage innocents. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/426 "2010-10-05T00:04:51Z")
And it does, of course, come with the added potential risk of causing us to mis-lynch a power role who participates, fabricates something to keep from being outed, gets called on it, and doesn’t put up a sufficient defense. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/427 "2010-10-05T00:06:17Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > And don’t you think it will be easy for Scum to fake a sentence or two they can use later? It would probably be harder than it seems. I don’t know if Total’s idea works or not in reality, I shall remain a fence sitter for the time being while I ponder the ramifications…but I like the idea in theory. I like the idea of forcing scum to make their play early and without a lot of time to coordinate. I am not thrilled about the potential downside. That said, I have spent many a game imploring players to remember that scum are as smart, if not smarter, than they are. Maybe it is time to give town some credit when it comes to being able to hide their own power/vanilla status. I know I could post a snip of my role PM that does not reveal my alignment but would play into a reasonable claim later in the game and not be totally useless. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/428 "2010-10-05T00:21:00Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > > [@special\_ed](#): > > > > And don’t you think it will be easy for Scum to fake a sentence or two they can use later? > > It would probably be harder than it seems. > > I don’t know if Total’s idea works or not in reality, I shall remain a fence sitter for the time being while I ponder the ramifications…but I like the idea in theory. I like the idea of forcing scum to make their play early and without a lot of time to coordinate. > > I am not thrilled about the potential downside. That said, I have spent many a game imploring players to remember that scum are as smart, if not smarter, than they are. Maybe it is time to give town some credit when it comes to being able to hide their own power/vanilla status. I know I could post a snip of my role PM that does not reveal my alignment but would play into a reasonable claim later in the game and not be totally useless. Here’s a sample of a fake claim the Scum had access to in ED1. It only takes me a minute to see quite a few sentences I could use that seem quite Townie and relatively ambiguous. No, this idea is a Bad Idea[sup]®[/sup] > [@storyteller0910](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are the **Questionable Hillbilly** > > **ALIGNMENT:** Town > **GENERIC:** Special > **WIN CONDITION:** All Deadites have been vanquished. > > **BACKGROUND:** > > Other guys come onscreen to the raging brass of John Williams, or, perhaps, if they’ve got a particularly handsome visage, a nice groovy '70s beat. You get dueling banjos. Other guys are missing their lost love, or their Amulet of Infinite Kickassery. You’re missing most of your teeth. You run a gas station, or maybe a seedy hotel, and you smell of rye and tobacco. When the kids who are the heroes of the story encounter you early in the film, you supply the inappropriate remarks, vaguely threatening countenance, and slobbery leers that drive them into the creepy cabin in the first place. > > But you know what else you have? A great big damn shotgun. S-mart’s top of the line - double-barreled Remington; cobalt blue steel; hair trigger. And a conscience. You’re the dummy who creeps into the woods after the kids, hoping to save them from their own recklessness. And, you know, to peek at some of the prettier cheerleaders while they’re showering. Hey, I said you have a conscience, not that you’re dead. > > So lock and load, Bobby Jim Bob, and try not to drip tobacco on the floor. > > **POWERS:** > > 1. Your shotgun contains a total of two shells. If you are ever attacked by Night, you will fire off one of these shells to defend yourself, frightening off your attacker. If you are forced to defend yourself twice in this way, the second time you will be shooting to kill. If you’re attacked and out of shells… well, maybe they’ll serve Everclear in Paradise. > > 2. If you’re feeling adventurous, you can choose to use your shotgun in other ways. You can target another player and stand guard over them with your weapon; if they are attacked, you’ll use your shotgun to fend off their attacker as described above. Note that Power #1 is an automatic power, triggered by an attack; if you’re standing guard over someone and both you and they are attacked, you’ll take care of yourself first, and your charge if you have ammo left. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/429 "2010-10-05T00:26:23Z")
I can’t believe we are catching ourselves\* in the same conversation as in Lord of the Rings. Look, the claim(share role PM) thing is not a good idea right now and we should save any kind of claim for later. Story has the game well planned and covered. Stuff the claim stuff away for later in the game, where we may want to actually mass claim. Well, _yourselves_ in Lord of the Rings. I was in the spoiled discussion slapping my head that players would pursue it so much…with a lot of other spectators saying the same thing! ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/430 "2010-10-05T00:32:47Z")
I agree with Mahaloth. Anyone who thinks a mass claim would work strikes me as being a mafia newb, especially with someone like Storyteller modding. He’ll have found a way to make it not work as well as people are thinking. **Total Lost** , you seem very hard pressed to get any info you can out of people’s PMs. It seems most people are not for it at this time so why continue to press it? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/431 "2010-10-05T00:47:57Z")
I want to revisit this now that I have my role: > [@Oy](#): > > Um, here’s a weird thing. In post #137: > > [QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies] > I also don’t know what Natlaw is smoking. Story has quite clearly stated that only the (scum -1) have had their roles assigned yet. Any Masons (should there even be any) are still a twinkle in the eye of Fate. And in post #210: Except that’s not what **Storyteller** said in his post #110: [QUOTE=storyteller0910] In a few minutes, each of you will receive a PM. The vast majority will receive the following PM: Quote:You are not yet Scum. The players who are Scum will receive messages to that effect. They will then be given a chance to meet and to select one player from the pool of players who received “not yet Scum” messages to complete their team. Once they have chosen, the actual roles will be randomized and distributed, and Day One will begin. No other powers or abilities will be available during Night Zero. Meanwhile, it is now Night Zero. The rules will be posted presently. Feel free to discuss this wrinkle, the rules, or anything else; there are no post restrictions of any kind in this game, and anything may be discussed by Day or by Night. [/QUOTE] **Story** didn’t say anything whatsoever about Scum getting their role PMs, just messages to the effect that they are Scum. In fact, based on what he said, it seems to me that Scum wouldn’t get their role PMs until everyone else does, once Scum have selected their final buddy. So how is it that **Cookes** knows otherwise? [/QUOTE] I’m actually not that interested in what this says about Cookies as much as I am interested in what it says about Oy!. I find that usually when somebody states an assumption that I know to be wrong it really sticks out to me. And I’ve found that as scum there can be a strong urge to try and cast that bad assumption as PIS, especially early in the where the scum can be pretty hard-up to find a reason to state some suspicions of players that they know to be innocent. So I have to admit that I’m kind of wondering if the scum _didn’t_ get their role PMs at the start, and Oy! knows that and that’s why Cookies assumption to the contrary jumped out at him. It’s extremely thin. But I wanted to get that idea out there. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/432 "2010-10-05T01:00:50Z")
Yeah, I’m not even that much of a fan of it, and it was my own idea. Basically, I was trying to come up with something that might not give the Scum a list of power roles but could pin the Scum down later–trying to mitigate the potential losses of a traditional mass claim. If I were a Vanilla (not saying what I am one way or the other, just dabbling in the potential hypothetical), I’d pick something that sure sounded like I might be a power role, for example. If I were a power role, I’d pick something that sounded bland and vanilla. I have faith that a two-sentence blurb wouldn’t necessarily be painting a Kick Me sign on our power roles’ backs, because nobody who plays this game is stupid, Town or Scum. But I’d rather do what we normally do, which is nothing at all, because the game is more fun if you don’t try to trick it. Next, I’ll deal with **Idle**. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/433 "2010-10-05T01:07:26Z")
So the big thing I noticed in reading the new page of posts since I left work was the exchange between **Idle** and **Mahaloth** , the latter referring to the former’s vote for me as a “placeholder,” and the former expressing confusion about what he said that gave that impression. Well, I don’t want to put words in **Mahaloth** ’s mouth, especially since he didn’t follow up, but here’s what led _me_ to believe the vote was a placeholder: > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > > That’s just mean. > > But I guess you have to play the odds, eh? > > Eh, no hard feelings toward her, but I’ve just been increasingly frustrated in games as of late with players seemingly waiting until the 11th hour to vote…which usually touches off a huge melee of votes and unvotes and all that jazz. I find my mindset in these games is becoming more like **Pleonast** every day: Vote early, vote often, and don’t be afraid to vote to shake things up a little to see what kind of reactions you get. > > As it is, right now, the whole “talking to scum” thing pinged me. And as for your repeated insistence that you remembered more than one person saying what I said, well, I said the exact same thing to defend myself when _I_ did it, so forgive me if your protests ring hollow to me. I still can’t remember what game it was, so I can’t remember if I was Scum, but either way I’d been skimming and totally smudged someone. And that game had been going on a LOT longer than this one, and had more pages for me to go digging through to figure out that I was creating a Group Of One. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/434 "2010-10-05T01:09:27Z")
Rysto, From storyteller’s original post concerning the Role PMs: > [@storyteller0910](#): > > In a few minutes, each of you will receive a PM. The vast majority will receive the following PM: > > > [@](#): > > > > You are not yet Scum. > > The players who _are_ Scum will receive messages to that effect. They will then be given a chance to meet and to select one player from the pool of players who received “not yet Scum” messages to complete their team.\*\* Once they have chosen, the actual roles will be randomized and distributed\*\*, and Day One will begin. No other powers or abilities will be available during Night Zero. \ He says there that the actual roles will be distributed after the Scum picks their final player. I think that’s right in line with what Oy! is saying. I’m not sure I share his suspicion of Cookies, but I don’t think Oy! is giving away anything here; just reminding the rest of us that everything we say “can and will be used against us” ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/435 "2010-10-05T01:11:51Z")
NETA: My previous post is in reference to Rysto’s Post #431. Upon reread my post seemed less clear than it did when I was composing it. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/436 "2010-10-05T01:16:48Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > \ Again, as simple as I can put it: I found what you did suspicious..so I’m voting for you. That’s mafia. Feel free to find me suspicious right back (which you obviously do–or maybe you’re just faking it). ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/437 "2010-10-05T01:45:43Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Rysto, > > From storyteller’s original post concerning the Role PMs: > > > [@storyteller0910](#): > > > > In a few minutes, each of you will receive a PM. The vast majority will receive the following PM: > > > > The players who _are_ Scum will receive messages to that effect. They will then be given a chance to meet and to select one player from the pool of players who received “not yet Scum” messages to complete their team.\*\* Once they have chosen, the actual roles will be randomized and distributed\*\*, and Day One will begin. No other powers or abilities will be available during Night Zero. > > \ > > He says there that the actual roles will be distributed after the Scum picks their final player. I think that’s right in line with what Oy! is saying. I’m not sure I share his suspicion of Cookies, but I don’t think Oy! is giving away anything here; just reminding the rest of us that everything we say “can and will be used against us” FWIW, any pings I may have gotten from Oy! have settled down into null tells. The only thing from that whole exchange that still might niggle at me is Wanderer’s follow up to Oy! in post [233](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12983254&postcount=233). It struck me as both mildly encouraging and mildly wrong in a different way than others were apparently interpreting what I had said. Wanderer seemed to hone in on my use of ‘some’ as being possible PIS in post [210](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12982859&postcount=210), whereas others seemed to take issue regarding my use of ‘role’ in [137](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12981158&postcount=137). The different “role” interpretations at least makes sense to me. The different “some” interpretation…not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/438 "2010-10-05T02:48:11Z")
You used _double quotes_ around the word \*\*some \*\*in the last line of your post, but _single quotes_ two lines earlier… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/439 "2010-10-05T02:50:45Z")
😃 ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/440 "2010-10-05T03:45:09Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > FWIW, any pings I may have gotten from Oy! have settled down into null tells. The only thing from that whole exchange that still might niggle at me is Wanderer’s follow up to Oy! in post [233](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12983254&postcount=233). It struck me as both mildly encouraging and mildly wrong in a different way than others were apparently interpreting what I had said. > > Wanderer seemed to hone in on my use of ‘some’ as being possible PIS in post [210](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12982859&postcount=210), whereas others seemed to take issue regarding my use of ‘role’ in [137](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12981158&postcount=137). > > The different “role” interpretations at least makes sense to me. > > The different “some” interpretation…not so much. Hmm. **Cookie’s** post made me go back and read **Wanderer** ’s at 233. Having watch\*\* Oy\*\* watch LOTR mafia, I know he’s a new player and a bit uneven experienced in the lingo of mafia. So, while I disagreed with **Oy** ’s worry about **Cookie,** I didn’t read anything negative about **Oy** from it. Taking a second look, I’m actually a little worried by **Wanderer’s** apparent encouraging of **Oy**. Here’s his post in full > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > > [@Oy](#): > > > > In post #210, **cookies** gently teased me that suggesting I had not yet received a role PM might be me trying to subtly push the idea I was town. But when I went back to look, I saw that she was the only one who’d suggested that Scum had already received their PMs. I know that’s a really big mistake to make, but we’ve seen that Scum make mistakes some times. So I’m wondering, was that a mistake on **cookies** part, or am I just too wired up? > > I was going to weighin saying it was obvious that Cookies just meant PM note **role** pm, but then, Cookies only said some PM’s. Surely we ALL have a PM, it’s just actual roles that we are waiting on? > > Could be suspicious, could be a simple misspeak. If you were going to come in and say it wasn’t relevant, then it seems odd to end with “could be suspicious.” The post seems to say “well, i don’t find him suspicious, or maybe i do, but you should run with it.” Feeds the fire a little without fingerprints. Pursuing a mild smudging on Day 1 worked well for me in LOTR and Day 1 cases, especially early ones, are thin, so I’m going to: **vote wanderers** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=23)