# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/541 "2010-10-05T17:55:48Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> They will then be given a chance to meet and to select one player from the pool of players who received “not yet Scum” messages to complete their team.

“to complete their team” seems to imply no more recruiting to me. Story could have written “one more player to **add** to their team.” Without recruitment I think 4 scum is just ridiculously low no matter how many 3rd, 4th, or even 5th parties there are. I am thinking that Romanic’s slip was not perfect information at all, but mistaken crappy information. I don’t think he’ll be getting my vote toDay.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/542 "2010-10-05T18:02:03Z")

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> [@Telcontar](#):
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> If I remember the LOTR spoiler board correctly, **Drain Bead** is on record as stating that he thinks most PISs are made by town and pointed out by scum. So that is honestly his perspective.
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> Also, I forgot: I think the “snippet of PM” claim is a terrible idea.

I’m female. And yes, that’s honestly my perspective, although I see the point that others are making that damn near anyone would have called **Romanic** on the numbers statement, as it was just that glaring, and that **Guiri** just so happened to be the first in line. So maybe it really wasn’t that awful, but I think I’ll still consider it a data point in any later review of the Day’s events.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/543 "2010-10-05T18:14:33Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
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> So it’s OK for you because you know you are town?

Pretty much.

> [@lilflower](#):
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> > [@Oredigger77](#):
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> > I’m planning on spending the rest of the Day looking else where and get a head start of the voting for toMorrow since a vote I cast toDay will still count tomorrow.
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> I understand that the votes stick until toMorrow unless they are unvoted. But why did you say that you didn’t think your vote [on **Romanic**] toDay would stick?

I shortened my quote in your post to get to the relevant portion. I’m planning on getting a head start on toMorrow’s case so more then likely my vote will not stick on Romanic since he will be dead at the end of the Day so would be unsuitable for toMorrow’s case.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/544 "2010-10-05T18:15:43Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> I’ll be surprised about Romanic posting that mistake if it turns out he’s a villain. Having played umpteen games with the guy, I’d say one of his standout traits when playing as mafia is his attention to detail. To make such a huge error early on would be somewhat out of character. On the other hand, I suppose the pressure of being scum in his first game here might have caused him to lose the plot…

> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@peekercpa](#):
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> > what he said is kind of a lynching offense in these parts.
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> What he said is probably a lynching offence anywhere, which is why I’ll be surprised if he’s mafia.

You tell us in the first post above that Romanic is a stickler for details, so it doesn’t make any sense for him to say “There. Are. Four. Scum!” in any case. So your second argument doesn’t really read well to me. Why does the fact that he did make this mistake point to him being “not Scum”?

I agree with pretty much everyone that it seems quite unlikely that anybody, with any alignment, would say such a thing at this point in the game. but the fact remains that it was said, so we need to try to figure out the most likely scenario that would lead to someone saying that. I think it is more likely that Romanic knows how many Scum there are and gave that information out by accident, than it is that Romanic has no idea how many Scum there are but decided to state a ‘known number of Scum’ in his post anyway.

Neither scenario seems very plausible at all, but one is even more remote than the other.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/545 "2010-10-05T18:24:00Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> You tell us in the first post above that Romanic is a stickler for details, so it doesn’t make any sense for him to say “There. Are. Four. Scum!” in any case.

I mentioned his attention to detail when playing as mafia. Like most of us who play a lot of games simultaneously, the attention he gives to town roles is rarely so thorough, especially early on.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/546 "2010-10-05T18:30:04Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> > You tell us in the first post above that Romanic is a stickler for details, so it doesn’t make any sense for him to say “There. Are. Four. Scum!” in any case.
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> I mentioned his attention to detail when playing as mafia. Like most of us who play a lot of games simultaneously, the attention he gives to town roles is rarely so thorough, especially early on.

Well, apparently this highlights my issues with attention to detail, especially when I’m posting from work…

I still stand by the second paragraph of my post, though.

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**Author:** ![Chipacabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Chipacabra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chipacabra)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/547 "2010-10-05T18:44:13Z")

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Looks like everyone’s chimed in toDay, so  
**unvote Natlaw**

I’m in a bit of a rush today, so don’t have a lot to say right now. But yeah, it does look like a slip to me. It’s not strong, but it’s about the best we’ve got to go on.

**vote Romanic**  
Oh, I guess I do have one thing to chime in on: 30 players is a big crowd; if only 2 players day each RL week, this game would take too long. So there are almost certainly mechanics in place to kill people off faster. This expands the possible range of size for the scum team; they could be larger than normal if the extra kills tend to hit scum, they could be smaller than normal if the extra kills tend to hit town. We don’t know which way, if either, the game has been adjusted. Point being, just about ANY size of scum team is plausible.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/548 "2010-10-05T18:55:24Z")

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This has seemed very bandwagon-y to me, but then I reviewed the post that Romanic made that kicked it off. In particular:

[QUOTE=Romanic]  
I’m asking because the 4th Scum was chosen by the 3 randomly picked scums and there’s maybe something we can make from this. I think there’s a strong possibility that they would have chosen a player they know about, because who would want to take a chance with a newbie when you can pick a good player, someone you can rely on?  
[/QUOTE]

Aside from PIS, doesn’t this look like **Romanic** pre-emtping suspicion from himself? It looks like he’s say “Obviously Mrs. McGinty and I and whoever else is new wouldn’t be chosen for Scum.” Except that apparently Romanic is a very experienced player, as those who’ve played with him elsewhere know, and that would make him a good choice if any of those who’ve played with him elsewhere before were randomly-selected Scum. It’s as if he was trying to establish the idea that he and other SDMB Mafia newbies were unlikely Scum candidates.

**Vote Romanic**.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/549 "2010-10-05T19:03:06Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> > [@lilflower](#):
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> > So it’s OK for you because you know you are town?
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> Pretty much.

You do realize that this is a ridiculous defense, right? As town, we all know our own alignment but since no one else does, telling us that you aren’t scum because you are town isn’t helpful at all, nor is it convincing.

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I shortened my quote in your post to get to the relevant portion. I’m planning on getting a head start on toMorrow’s case so more then likely my vote will not stick on Romanic since he will be dead at the end of the Day so would be unsuitable for toMorrow’s case.

Interesting. I originally read that post as you leaving yourself open to jump off the \*\*Romanic \*\*bandwagon if the tide changed.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/550 "2010-10-05T19:28:42Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@peekercpa](#):
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> > what he said is kind of a lynching offense in these parts.
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> What he said is probably a lynching offence anywhere, which is why I’ll be surprised if he’s mafia.

how does this work? i don’t think i ever played with you either (welcome, by the way). so the universe you come from is where suqirrely comments are indicative of town alignment? i mean do you come from oppositeville?

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/551 "2010-10-05T19:33:04Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> how does this work? i don’t think i ever played with you either (welcome, by the way). so the universe you come from is where suqirrely comments are indicative of town alignment? i mean do you come from oppositeville?

I meant that Romanic would be well aware just how likely such a mistake would be to get him lynched, and thus that he probably wouldn’t make it if he was really paying attention, which I’d expect him to do as mafia.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/552 "2010-10-05T19:37:12Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Except that apparently Romanic is a very experienced player, as those who’ve played with him elsewhere know, and that would make him a good choice if any of those who’ve played with him elsewhere before were randomly-selected Scum. It’s as if he was trying to establish the idea that he and other SDMB Mafia newbies were unlikely Scum candidates.

Interesting observation – if **Romantic** _does_ come back ass cum, then a good look at those who have played with him elsewhere might be in order.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/553 "2010-10-05T19:38:34Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> ass cum

And that right there, is a perfect argument – both for _and_ against – editing of posts. 🙂

Meh, and yes, I’m editing the horrific syntax in this post, rather than posting three times in a row.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/554 "2010-10-05T19:41:33Z")

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He’s editing! Lynch him!!! 😉

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**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/555 "2010-10-05T19:44:31Z")

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Well, I’m a hitchhiker and I can leave this cabin at any time, so you cannot lynch me technically, but you will force me to leave, which is bound to happen soon seeing how you want to throw me into that wood chipper for saying the word “3” in the wrong sentence. 😃

There’s not much point staying around if I am to be a distraction for the Town, and considering that my role is weak, it will come down to me leaving eventually. Again, me saying that there is 3 scums is a fluke coming out of nowhere. I can’t explain it besides that I was convinced there was 3 scums when I made that post.

So unless one of you has a bright idea how I can help, I’m going to write some sentence in bold green, to hit the road and I’ll be gone immediately, making all the votes on me disappear so you’ll be free to find a real scum.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/556 "2010-10-05T19:46:13Z")

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Ass Cum!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ok, so just throwing this out there. Lets say that for some reason, Romanic’s win condidtion has something to do with lynch votes for him. Is there any way he could be more guaranteed votes than by acting just the way he is?

Were he a newb, I’d write it off as a newb mistake. But, seeing as he he’s only a newb to sdmb and not so much to mafia, his play might be brilliant. We may be lambs to slaughter.

Not that I’m changing my vote - it’s probably just paranoia.

Oh, and ASS CUM!!!

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**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/557 "2010-10-05T19:47:13Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> He’s editing! Lynch him!!! 😉

Hell yeah, I might get off the hook now!

**unvote: Chipasumthing**

**vote: Hal Briston**

😃

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**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/558 "2010-10-05T19:49:58Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Interesting observation – if **Romantic** _does_ come back **ass cum** , then a good look at those who have played with him elsewhere might be in order.

Yeah, ugh.. I too, certainly hope, that I won’t come back as ass cum.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/559 "2010-10-05T19:56:00Z")

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> [@Romanic](#):
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> So unless one of you has a bright idea how I can help, I’m going to write some sentence in bold green, to hit the road and I’ll be gone immediately, making all the votes on me disappear so you’ll be free to find a real scum.

Sounds like a good plan to me actually. It’s like giving town two lynches for the price of one, I am in favor.

Want to give us a full claim before we make a final decision?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/560 "2010-10-05T19:56:21Z")

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> [@Romanic](#):
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> Hell yeah, I might get off the hook now!

Ok, ok, you got me. What I had _actually_ typed was “And that right there, is a perfect argument – both for and against – editing of posts, _something that scum like me do all the time MUAHAHAHA!!_”. 😛  
Errr…in case anyone things I was being serious there, I wasn’t.

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