# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/621 "2010-10-05T23:01:00Z")
I think I had a snarkgasm. oh, what’s this on my ass? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/622 "2010-10-05T23:01:19Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > It really is taxing my brain. I mean, I know a no-lynch is bad, but is, in effect, 2 lynches good? No. It is not. And that’s what we have is Romanic offs himself. In effect, 2 lynches on Day 1, one of which is a **guaranteed mislynch**. Unless of course he’s Scum and kills himself anyway. That I’d be OK with. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/623 "2010-10-05T23:01:49Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Supposing we lynch Romanic toDay, he flips Town. Is Town worse off or better off if all actions during the Night(kills, investigations, whatever other crazy things story has come up with) are blocked? Question the second: Supposing that in return for blocking all Night actions, Day Two was shorter than normal. Is Town better or worse off than not having the Night actions blocked? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/624 "2010-10-05T23:02:04Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I think I had a snarkgasm. > > oh, what’s this on my ass? sarcasmgasm is a better word ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/625 "2010-10-05T23:07:31Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > > I suppose there may be limited cases where Romanic’s claimed power might be useful to Town, but Today is definitely not one of them. Assuming he’s telling the truth, if he uses his power Today, then there is exactly one certain outcome, and that is one dead Townie. We still have to lynch someone Today, and the Town goes into Dusk already short one person. There is no possible way this is a ‘good thing’ for Town. > > > > Anyone who thinks that Romanic is likely telling the truth, but should use his ability anyway, is not putting the Town’s best interest in mind. One dead Townie plus one lynch is worse than Zero dead Townies plus one lynch, period. > > Supposing we lynch Romanic toDay, he flips Town. Is Town worse off or better off if all actions during the Night(kills, investigations, whatever other crazy things story has come up with) are blocked? I’m not seeing the connection between lynching Romanic Today, and actions being blocked Tonight. Did I miss something? And my argument really wasn’t about lynching or not lynching Romanic at all. My point is that if he is what he says he is, then I think his using his ability today would be a Bad Thing. Obviously, lynching him would also be bad if he is Town, but I figured that goes without saying. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/626 "2010-10-05T23:19:23Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > [@Rysto](#): > > > > Supposing we lynch Romanic toDay, he flips Town. Is Town worse off or better off if all actions during the Night(kills, investigations, whatever other crazy things story has come up with) are blocked? > > I’m not seeing the connection between lynching Romanic Today, and actions being blocked Tonight. Did I miss something? Answer my questions and all will become clear. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/627 "2010-10-05T23:23:41Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I’m not seeing the connection between lynching Romanic Today, and actions being blocked Tonight. Did I miss something? > > And my argument really wasn’t about lynching or not lynching Romanic at all. My point is that if he is what he says he is, then I think his using his ability today would be a Bad Thing. Obviously, lynching him would also be bad if he is Town, but I figured that goes without saying. The idea he’s trying to convey is that if Romanic leaves today and we continue with lynching another player it is equivalent to a Day 1 lynch and a Day 2 lynch with no actions taken during Night 1. This is not a good analogy though because in the case of no Night Actions, we don’t know FOR SURE that the Day 1 lynchee is Town. In this case, if he were to leave (i.e. his role claim is genuine) then he is, by definition, a townie and a mislynch. > [@special ed](#): > > oh, what’s this on my ass? Looks like ass cum. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/628 "2010-10-05T23:27:32Z")
1. I don’t believe Romanic’s claim. I think he has re-worked his role PM. > [@special\_ed](#): > > I think I had a snarkgasm. > > oh, what’s this on my ass? 1. You owe me a new keyboard. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/629 "2010-10-05T23:27:54Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > This is not a good analogy though because in the case of no Night Actions, we don’t know FOR SURE that the Day 1 lynchee is Town. In this case, if he were to leave (i.e. his role claim is genuine) then he is, by definition, a townie and a mislynch. That is completely irrelevant to the discussion. We are discussing whether it would be a good idea for Romanic to use his claimed power. If Romanic is lying then he does not have the power to off himself and this discussion is pointless. To even have this discussion we must approach it from the assumption that Romanic is Town. You will note that in my hypothetical above, I assume that the Day One lynch is a lynch of Town: > [@](#): > > Supposing we lynch Romanic toDay, **he flips Town**. Is Town worse off or better off if all actions during the Night(kills, investigations, whatever other crazy things story has come up with) are blocked? ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/630 "2010-10-05T23:37:11Z")
For the record: I don’t believe Romanic’s claim. The claim reads like story, but I can definitely see story writing power role cover PMs for scum. The error Romanic made reads like a classic mafia slip to me. If i’m wrong and the claim is real, should he use his power? If he is definitely going to be lynched, and there is sufficient time in the day for town to make a semi informed second choice, then yes. Unfortunately certainty in his lynch will grow only as day end approaches, so it is unclear when/whether these two factors might come into alignment. ---
**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/631 "2010-10-05T23:48:06Z")
I’m not sure if some of you realize this, but I will not let the tally run until Friday. There’s enough townie love left in me to stop these debates if I feel that you are going nowhere, which is pretty much how I feel right now, seeing how many don’t believe the role I claimed. Many of you have pointed my “scummy behavior” after the PIS slip, probably because I’ve made a few jokes, but to my defense there’s not much I can do to recover from this. I don’t think I’ve acted particularly scummy, jokes are not synonym of scum, but you are seeing my actions through the eyes of people who already assumed me to be scum because of the slip. I’m actually amazed how some of you are turning my jokes into something else. 😛 As for my role being unbelievable, what can I say, it’s my role, complete and unchanged. It’s weak, possibly only useful in endgame, and not so much now that people know about it. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/632 "2010-10-06T00:03:59Z")
> [@Romanic](#): > > I’m actually amazed how some of you are turning my jokes into something else. 😛 I think you will find that there is only one person who is really turning your jokes into anything other than jokes. The rest of us are looking at your other posts. ---
**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/633 "2010-10-06T00:09:56Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I think you will find that there is only one person who is really turning your jokes into anything other than jokes. The rest of us are looking at your other posts. Hmm, then what is the scummy behavior I am accused of, if not for my jokes? [except of course the PIS accusation] ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/634 "2010-10-06T00:21:48Z")
FTR, I’m not buying **Romanic** ’s\* claim either, for one simple reason: “Two thumbs”. I just don’t know if **storyteller** would recycle a bit like that…it seriously pings my “try to write like **storyteller** ” meter. \*Huh…wonder how many people besides me have been calling him “Romantic” this whole time? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/635 "2010-10-06T00:23:59Z")
> [@Romanic](#): > > > [@NAF1138](#): > > > > I think you will find that there is only one person who is really turning your jokes into anything other than jokes. The rest of us are looking at your other posts. > > Hmm, then what is the scummy behavior I am accused of, if not for my jokes? [except of course the PIS accusation] Here are a few examples: > [@Romanic](#): > > > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > > > But I seem to be in the minority. > > > > Got a claim handy, Romanic? 🙂 > > Roleclaiming on day 1 is sick and private talks are forbidden. Given my mistake, any claim could be interpreted as a cover role and would only benefit the mafia anyway, so I’m afraid my answer to your question is “no”. This was seen as scummy, because it flies int the face of convention here, where Role Claiming on Day 1 is not seen as “sick”. > [@Romanic](#): > > Well, I’m a hitchhiker and I can leave this cabin at any time, so you cannot lynch me technically, but you will force me to leave, which is bound to happen soon seeing how you want to throw me into that wood chipper for saying the word “3” in the wrong sentence. 😃 > > There’s not much point staying around if I am to be a distraction for the Town, and considering that my role is weak, it will come down to me leaving eventually. Again, me saying that there is 3 scums is a fluke coming out of nowhere. I can’t explain it besides that I was convinced there was 3 scums when I made that post. > > So unless one of you has a bright idea how I can help, I’m going to write some sentence in bold green, to hit the road and I’ll be gone immediately, making all the votes on me disappear so you’ll be free to find a real scum. This whole post has the tone of “You can’t fire me, because I quit!”. > [@Romanic](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are the Hitchhiker > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Special > WIN CONDITION: All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished. > > BACKGROUND: > > In every horror movie, there comes a time when, on a lonely drive through deserted country, the hero and heroine slow down briefly as they pass a solitary figure, standing alone on the shoulder with thumb extended, seen only in silhouette. Maybe he’s carrying a shoulder bag full of snack food; maybe he’s carrying the dismembered and half-eaten corpse of his last victim. Impossible to say. > > Well, in this movie, that silhouette has two thumbs, no corpses in the sack, and goes by the name of you. > > You’ve never really been the type to settle down in one place for long. You’ve had a few brushes with romance, but your one true love is the open road… the call of the wild… the dust in the wind… the sand spurs in your sneakers… crap, those things hurt. > > Yes, even the most dedicated wanderer must stop to rest from time to time, and this time the wind has blown you to a little cabin in the woods, whose occupants appear to be besieged by, of all things, Demons. You’ve seen a lot of things in your time; this isn’t the first Demonically possessed wood chipper you’ve encountered. So you might be able to offer a bit of assistance to this gang of Demon finger food… if you can overcome your native wanderlust and stick around long enough to help. > > POWERS: > > 1. At your discretion at any time Day or Night, you may choose to exit the game. You will be permanently removed from the active game (but continue to win or lose with Town). Your role and alignment will be revealed as if you had died. > > If you wish to leave the game, please place a post to that effect in the main game thread, marked in bold-face and green text, and then post no more. Your departure will be effective from the time-stamp of that post. All active votes that had been placed on you, as well as your own vote, will be cancelled. Any actions directed against you will fail; however, players targeting you will have the opportunity to change their choice once you are gone. > > At their discretion, the moderators may choose to extend the Day or Night on which you depart by a maximum of 24 hours to allow for reaction to your departure. > > Boohoo. This post was actually just fine until you ended it with “Boohoo”. Overall, your posts since your ‘slip’ have had a tone about them that says something other than “I’m a Townie who screwed up, but would still like to try to find a way to help my team win the game”. Now this may just be my opinion, but from reading others’ posts, I don’t think I’m alone. ---
**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/636 "2010-10-06T00:25:26Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Huh…wonder how many people besides me have been calling him “Romantic” this whole time? Too many. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/637 "2010-10-06T00:27:53Z")
> [@Romanic](#): > > > [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > > > Huh…wonder how many people besides me have been calling him “Romantic” this whole time? > > Too many. :mad: I like you. I do hope you stick around for another game after you are lynched. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/638 "2010-10-06T00:34:37Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > > > [@Rysto](#): > > > > > > Supposing we lynch Romanic toDay, he flips Town. Is Town worse off or better off if all actions during the Night(kills, investigations, whatever other crazy things story has come up with) are blocked? > > > > I’m not seeing the connection between lynching Romanic Today, and actions being blocked Tonight. Did I miss something? > > Answer my questions and all will become clear. After seeing USCDiver’s explanation, I think I understand what you’re getting at, no thanks to you for continuing to be cryptic with your questions…but I’ll play anyway. I do not think the Town would be better off in the scenario you describe. The biggest problem with Day 1 is that it starts with no information. Zero data points on which to build a case on anyone. There is some information to be gained out of the Day 1 lynch, but of the lynchee flips Town, even that is extremely limited. So Night 1 is where you get your first real data: Night kills, results of investigations, etc. But if all actions are blocked on Night 1, then you get no data. Basically Day 2 becomes a replay of Day 1. The only thing you know that you didn’t know at the beginning of the game is that one person was Town but dies before they had a chance to do anything, and the pool of players is slightly smaller than it used to be. I don’t think this scenario is in the Town’s best interest. And this is not merely a hypothetical, because this is precisely the scenario that played out in the Halloween game currently going on over on Idle’s board. I didn’t think it was a good thing when it happened there, and I don’t think it would be a good thing to happen here. Now I’ve answered your questions, and I still am ‘unclear’. I assume your opinion differs from mine? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/639 "2010-10-06T00:42:55Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > \*Huh…wonder how many people besides me have been calling him “Romantic” this whole time? The romance explains all the ass cum. ---
**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/640 "2010-10-06T00:46:15Z")
@Plankton: From where I come, role claiming on day one is sick. Anything else is better than this if you can avoid it. In a survival point of view, publicly claiming on day 1 is a death sentence. It’s sick and to be avoided, curious how opinions are different on this board. In itself, a cultural difference, if we can call it so, is not enough to make me scummy. I think McGinty and Normal Phase confirmed that this difference is true on the other boards we play together on. But I knew the “Boohoo”, after my role claim, was a mistake, my other choice was “Teehee”, I so shoulda gone for that. 😛 For the record, Boohoo was meant to show that I was crying at role claiming on day 1, because I don’t like it. Might not have been there if a crying smiley was available, but any way you’re jumping at anything to reinforce the idea that I am scum.. > [@NAF1138](#): > > > [@Romanic](#): > > > > Too many. :mad: > > I like you. I do hope you stick around for another game after you are lynched. That’s it! I’m about to cry now… booh… er, _cries_ Yeah, I’ll see you in 3 months, when this game will end 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=33)