# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/741 "2010-10-06T19:42:35Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Mrs McGinty was very confident that Romanic would not have made that slip as scum, and I’m not sure that confidence can really be justified from a town perspective.

I was never certain, but knowing the guy as both of us do, I felt the case against him was nowhere near as strong as everyone else around here believed.

What I find interesting is how quickly you assumed the dominant town mentality, and moved to throw Roman on the BBQ, ignoring how out of character a mistake like this would be for him as mafia.

Also, did it not occur to you that, regardless of whether he was scum, you and I would more effectively play ‘good cop’ with Roman, given how everyone else was baying for his blood?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/742 "2010-10-06T19:44:07Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Him? I was thinking it was a her all this time. :eek:

Drain Bead is a girl, Guiri is a boy, I am a girl, Roman **ic** (no “t”) is a boy, and Mrs McGinty likes to keep the mystery about her. Or him. 😃

Did I miss anyone?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/743 "2010-10-06T19:46:45Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> What I find interesting is how quickly you assumed the dominant town mentality, and moved to throw Roman on the BBQ, ignoring how out of character a mistake like this would be for him as mafia.

Help me understand.

If the mistake is so out of character, why do you think that indicated in any way that he is NOT scum? Odd mistakes would point toward being scum.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/744 "2010-10-06T19:54:43Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> > Mrs McGinty was very confident that Romanic would not have made that slip as scum, and I’m not sure that confidence can really be justified from a town perspective.
> 
> I was never certain, but knowing the guy as both of us do, I felt the case against him was nowhere near as strong as everyone else around here believed.
> 
> What I find interesting is how quickly you assumed the dominant town mentality, and moved to throw Roman on the BBQ, ignoring how out of character a mistake like this would be for him as mafia.
> 
> Also, did it not occur to you that, regardless of whether he was scum, you and I would more effectively play ‘good cop’ with Roman, given how everyone else was baying for his blood?

What need for “good cop” in a game with no private chat? 100% public posting forces you to be more straightforward with your statements most of the time, because there’s no explaining to questioners in private what you _really_ think, and why you’re being deceptive. Your public record is all you have; it’s the only thing you can point to for why you yourself should not be lynched and somebody else should.

And what need for “good cop” in a sure-lynch situation, anyway?

For your previous point – this “slip” happened to him as town. I don’t believe as you do, that he would be immune to such things as mafia, or even particularly less likely to make such a mistake as mafia than as town. People have brain farts, nobody’s immune to it. Regardless, what convinced me to change my vote, as I’ve said a couple of times previously, was the way he responded to my claim comments. I didn’t expect that from a town Romanic. I still find the whole thing a bit puzzling, even despite his “this will never convince anyone” role. I guess I don’t know him as well as I thought I did.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/745 "2010-10-06T19:57:51Z")

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Saying it right now: I’m going for the book first chance I get, no asking.  
Again, I don’t see the logic behind setting up these things or letting someone else just always keep it.  
Look, you can’t delegate what happens with the book with 29 plus people in the game. Think of me as suspicious all you want, but when the book is up for grabs, I’m going for it. I would expect others to try for it too…not going to find anyone suspicious for trying to get the damn book…that’s what it’s there for.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/746 "2010-10-06T19:58:52Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> > Him? I was thinking it was a her all this time. :eek:
> 
> Drain Bead is a girl, Guiri is a boy, I am a girl, Roman **ic** (no “t”) is a boy, and Mrs McGinty likes to keep the mystery about her. Or him. 😃
> 
> Did I miss anyone?

I know YOU’RE a girl. 😛

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/747 "2010-10-06T19:59:13Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Help me understand.
> 
> If the mistake is so out of character, why do you think that indicated in any way that he is NOT scum? Odd mistakes would point toward being scum.

Since this is the second time I’ve had to re-explain the point, I guess I must not be making it clearly…

What I mean is that it would be out of character for Roman to make a mistake like this if he was playing as scum.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/748 "2010-10-06T20:02:44Z")

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Further to the previous point, in my experience it’s townies who are much more likely to make stupid mistakes, and I find it a little odd that the whole lynch policy around here seems to involve mass bandwagons on people who screw up and say something dumb. But I’m guess that’s probably a mistaken impression from my first day, right?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/749 "2010-10-06T20:04:03Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> > Mrs McGinty was very confident that Romanic would not have made that slip as scum, and I’m not sure that confidence can really be justified from a town perspective.
> 
> I was never certain, but knowing the guy as both of us do, I felt the case against him was nowhere near as strong as everyone else around here believed.
> 
> What I find interesting is how quickly you assumed the dominant town mentality, and moved to throw Roman on the BBQ, ignoring how out of character a mistake like this would be for him as mafia.
> 
> Also, did it not occur to you that, regardless of whether he was scum, you and I would more effectively play ‘good cop’ with Roman, given how everyone else was baying for his blood?

You seem to be overstating the general feeling of the town toward Romanic. I don’t recall anyone claiming there was an iron-clad case against him. He made an error that was simply too egregious to ignore, leading to the initial votes against him. And then he made the situation worse with his posting behavior leading up to his eventual Role Claim.

It’s not that everyone felt the case against him was “so strong”, but simply that the case against him was better than the case against anyone else. And for Day 1, that’s “good enough”.

You leapt immediately and unwaveringly to his defense, based exclusively on the premise that “Romanic wouldn’t make that kind of mistake if he were Scum”. And now seem to be attacking Normal for not joining you in that defense? Is that because you really think you should have all “stuck together” because of your history with each other, or is it because you knew for a fact that Romanic was Town all along?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/750 "2010-10-06T20:06:34Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > Help me understand.
> > 
> > If the mistake is so out of character, why do you think that indicated in any way that he is NOT scum? Odd mistakes would point toward being scum.
> 
> Since this is the second time I’ve had to re-explain the point, I guess I must not be making it clearly…
> 
> What I mean is that it would be out of character for Roman to make a mistake like this if he was playing as scum.

I see the point; I just don’t agree with it. I do think that you believe it, but that doesn’t have much bearing on your state of mind in defending him so persistently – the whole point is that it is immensely easier for a scummy Mrs McGinty to conclude that Romanic’s slip was not something he would do as scum than it is for a town Mrs McGinty to do so. I think it’s possible you could come to that conclusion as town and stick to it through all the subsequent silliness, else I’d be voting you right now and not Oredigger, but that’s why I’m discussing you in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/751 "2010-10-06T20:07:40Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> Further to the previous point, in my experience it’s townies who are much more likely to make stupid mistakes, and I find it a little odd that the whole lynch policy around here seems to involve mass bandwagons on people who screw up and say something dumb. But I’m guess that’s probably a mistaken impression from my first day, right?

I’d say yes and no. Yes, because I’ve seen people voted on and lynched for dozens of reasons, not always coming down to just because they screwed up.  
But no, because,–well, that does happen a lot in this game too. How does one know whether a mistake is a Town “screwing up” or a scum “making a slip”?  
I’ve seen both say something accidentally and get caught for it. You can’t say that it doesn’t lead to scum,…I’ve seen it lead to scum many times.  
Romantic said something very specific that just couldn’t be ignored. Yes, it’s unfortunate, but you can’t expect people to not have their concerns/suspicions raised.

We also don’t know him as well as you do…but, really, I think the whole “I know him and he wouldn’t be scum” thing is pointless anyway. It just doesn’t work. I know MHaye really well, and NAF, and Storyteller, and FCoD…but I would never say I knew them to the point where I would know if they were Town or Scum in a game.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/752 "2010-10-06T20:08:58Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> Further to the previous point, in my experience it’s townies who are much more likely to make stupid mistakes, and I find it a little odd that the whole lynch policy around here seems to involve mass bandwagons on people who screw up and say something dumb. But I’m guess that’s probably a mistaken impression from my first day, right?

No, you’ve got that pretty well spot-on.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/753 "2010-10-06T20:09:12Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> Further to the previous point, in my experience it’s townies who are much more likely to make stupid mistakes, and I find it a little odd that the whole lynch policy around here seems to involve mass bandwagons on people who screw up and say something dumb. But I’m guess that’s probably a mistaken impression from my first day, right?

Hopefully. “Odd is not scummy” is one of my favorite sayings lately.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/754 "2010-10-06T20:12:09Z")

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[quote=“Normal\_Phase, post:744, topic:555493”]

What need for “good cop” in a game with no private chat?/QUOTE]

I’m surprised you have to ask. If a bandwagoned player (town or scum) thinks that someone doubts the case against him, he’s more likely to talk, thus benefitting the town.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/755 "2010-10-06T20:16:38Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> > Mrs McGinty was very confident that Romanic would not have made that slip as scum, and I’m not sure that confidence can really be justified from a town perspective.
> 
> I was never certain, but knowing the guy as both of us do, I felt the case against him was nowhere near as strong as everyone else around here believed.
> 
> What I find interesting is how quickly you assumed the dominant town mentality, and moved to throw Roman on the BBQ, ignoring how out of character a mistake like this would be for him as mafia.
> 
> Also, did it not occur to you that, regardless of whether he was scum, you and I would more effectively play ‘good cop’ with Roman, given how everyone else was baying for his blood?

otay, i’ll play.

**mc ginty** i don’t beleive that i have ever played with you or **roman**. and if i have and i forgot well then sorry.

what’s confusing to me is that you seem so convinced he was town. and i understand that metagame comes into play at certain points but your defense of him along the lines of he doesn’t pay attention when he is town is just all sorts of wrong.

it’s almost like you knew he would flip non scum. but shit i don’t think he was a mason, near as i can tell. the only folks that would know that he would flip not scum would be scum, right?

**unvote**

**vote mc ginty (or whatthefuckwhatever)**

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/756 "2010-10-06T20:25:09Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> With Romantic gone, my main suspicions shift to three people.
> 
> 1. **Oredigger** and **GuiriEnEspaña** are, more or less, tied for being the most suspicious in my opinion.
> 2. **Drain Bead** is also (still), but less than the others.

Snipped the rest of the post, but this post bothers me. You spend most of it talking about **Guiri** , then end up voting for **Oredigger**. If it weren’t for the fact that nobody else has mentioned **Guiri** , I’d think you were trying to get cred if **Guiri** later flips Scum by mentioning how scummy you thought he was. But if you truly are scumbuddies, this is something that could backfire if people actually buy your case against him. I find this more scummy when the player you don’t vote for actually has the potential to end up on the block. Still, I’m moderately pinged.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/757 "2010-10-06T20:34:17Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> > [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> > What need for “good cop” in a game with no private chat?
> 
> I’m surprised you have to ask. If a bandwagoned player (town or scum) thinks that someone doubts the case against him, he’s more likely to talk, thus benefitting the town.

I’m not sure if I agree with this.

If I am Town and there is a bandwagon against me, I’m going to do any amount of talking necessary to try to clear my name, even if everyone else in the game is against me. I have nothing to lose, and everything to gain if I can prevent a mislynch.

But if i’m Scum, and there is someone else who’s “on my side”, I might try to lay low if I thought my ally might be able to convince the Town to move off of me, rather than opening my mouth and shoving my foot even farther down it. (Actually, I personally would probably keep right on talking until the noose cut me off, but that’s just because I don’t know when to shut up. But I can certainly understand how “a player” might want to keep relatively quiet in this situation.)

NOTE: These scenarios both assume it’s early in the game, like it is Today. In the later stages I might well take a different approach depending on the makeup and relative powers of the remaining players in the game.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/758 "2010-10-06T20:37:27Z")

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I don’t like the case on **Oredigger** or **Mrs McGinty**.

Once **Romanic** messed up, pretty much all reaction to him was, as far as I’m concerned, a null tell. It was a huge mess up that pretty much had to be voted for, but it was also a huge bandwagon that anyone could hop on. Both Town and Scum could see both those things, and everything anyone said about it could be interpreted in light of either Town or Scum and make perfect sense. And now come the inevitable recriminations.

Going back to before **Romanic** had his brain fart, **Naf1138** got the Necronomicon, and was openly very eager to get it. In fact, he was so eager that even though in Post 329 he says that he has to leave in 15 minutes (it is 2:20 at that time), he is the first to get the Necronomicon at 3:00. In fact, he is still around at 3:19 in Post #355 and 3:42 in post #362. Come to think of it, he’s still around at 4:56, in Post #396. Guess whatever he had to leave for wasn’t that important.

There were a number of people eager to get it, so that in itself is not all that suspicious, but it does strike me as an item that would be more useful to Scum than to Town, at least in Evil Dead the first. But he also was, in post #328, the first player to offer up the idea of a mass claim. He was mildly pushing the idea (albeit with several players chiming in about instances where it was successful) when **Drain Bead** chimes in with the idea of posting a sentence or two of color from our PMs in post #334. In post #342, **Naf1138** again defends the discussion of mass claiming, and adds

[QUOTE=Naf1138]  
I’m not looking to be aggressive here, just trying to push the ball along. I am going to have to play this game in an even more scatterbrained manner than is usual for me.  
[/QUOTE]

That could be a simple admission of fact, or an excuse for playing differently from the way he has in the past. I don’t know well enough to judge.

In post #362, **Naf** has switched over to **Drain** ’s bits of color idea.

Now, here is the Vanilla town posts in Evil Dead I:

> [@storyteller0910](#):
>
> Welcome to the game; you are an Alpha Redshirt
> 
> ALIGNMENT: Town  
> GENERIC: Vanilla  
> WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> 
> Every horror movie needs a collection of characters whose only purpose is to die, sometimes horribly, as they help the hero toward his/her goal of standing alone atop a pile of dead demons. Ever since the dying started, you’ve had a sneaking suspicion that you might just be one of those characters… a suspicion that is not at all ameliorated by the fact that, by blind coincidence, you happen to be wearing a nice, cheery red shirt. Your life expectancy is limited, and you have no special powers, abilities, or knowledge relevant to the situation at hand. Still, only the darkest of horror movies end with all the tertiary characters dead: you’ll just have to hope this is Scream and not Alien.
> 
> One important note. There are two kinds of redshirts in this world: the Alphas and the Betas. The Alphas are the jocks, the student council presidents, the drunken frat boys, the head cheerleaders, the hard-ass authority figures, and so on. The Betas are the others: the smart kids, the computer geeks, the stoners, the well-meaning but ineffectual parental figures, the creepy loners, and so on.
> 
> You are an Alpha. You have no idea if this is a distinction with a difference, but it’s something to keep in mind all the same.
> 
> POWERS:
> 
> 1. You have no special powers or abilities, other than your intellect and persuasive ability. Good luck, and try not to die out there.
> 
> * * *
> 
> And then there’s this one:
> 
> Welcome to the game; you are a Beta Redshirt
> 
> ALIGNMENT: Town  
> GENERIC: Vanilla  
> WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> 
> Every horror movie needs a collection of characters whose only purpose is to die, sometimes horribly, as they help the hero toward his/her goal of standing alone atop a pile of dead demons. Ever since the dying started, you’ve had a sneaking suspicion that you might just be one of those characters… a suspicion that is not at all ameliorated by the fact that, by blind coincidence, you happen to be wearing a nice, cheery red shirt. Your life expectancy is limited, and you have no special powers, abilities, or knowledge relevant to the situation at hand. Still, only the darkest of horror movies end with all the tertiary characters dead: you’ll just have to hope this is Scream and not Alien.
> 
> One important note. There are two kinds of redshirts in this world: the Alphas and the Betas. The Alphas are the jocks, the student council presidents, the drunken frat boys, the head cheerleaders, the hard-ass authority figures, and so on. The Betas are the others: the smart kids, the computer geeks, the stoners, the well-meaning but ineffectual parental figures, the creepy loners, and so on.
> 
> You are a Beta. You have no idea if this is a distinction with a difference, but it’s something to keep in mind all the same.
> 
> POWERS:
> 
> 1. You have no special powers or abilities, other than your intellect and persuasive ability. Good luck, and try not to die out there.

and here is **Romanic** ’s actual PM:

> [@storyteller0910](#):
>
> Welcome to the game; you are the Hitchhiker
> 
> ALIGNMENT: Town  
> GENERIC: Special  
> WIN CONDITION: All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> 
> In every horror movie, there comes a time when, on a lonely drive through deserted country, the hero and heroine slow down briefly as they pass a solitary figure, standing alone on the shoulder with thumb extended, seen only in silhouette. Maybe he’s carrying a shoulder bag full of snack food; maybe he’s carrying the dismembered and half-eaten corpse of his last victim. Impossible to say.
> 
> Well, in this movie, that silhouette has two thumbs, no corpses in the sack, and goes by the name of you.
> 
> You’ve never really been the type to settle down in one place for long. You’ve had a few brushes with romance, but your one true love is the open road… the call of the wild… the dust in the wind… the sand spurs in your sneakers… crap, those things hurt.
> 
> Yes, even the most dedicated wanderer must stop to rest from time to time, and this time the wind has blown you to a little cabin in the woods, whose occupants appear to be besieged by, of all things, Demons. You’ve seen a lot of things in your time; this isn’t the first Demonically possessed wood chipper you’ve encountered. So you might be able to offer a bit of assistance to this gang of Demon finger food… if you can overcome your native wanderlust and stick around long enough to help.
> 
> POWERS:
> 
> 1. At your discretion at any time Day or Night, you may choose to exit the game. You will be permanently removed from the active game (but continue to win or lose with Town). Your role and alignment will be revealed as if you had died.
> 
> If you wish to leave the game, please place a post to that effect in the main game thread, marked in bold-face and green text, and then post no more. Your departure will be effective from the time-stamp of that post. All active votes that had been placed on you, as well as your own vote, will be cancelled. Any actions directed against you will fail; however, players targeting you will have the opportunity to change their choice once you are gone.
> 
> At their discretion, the moderators may choose to extend the Day or Night on which you depart by a maximum of 24 hours to allow for reaction to your departure.

Is there any way that a piece of the latter (the real, non-Vanilla PM) could possibly be posted without revealing that it is not vanilla to anyone with access to a vanilla PM?

**Drain Bead** didn’t play Evil Dead 1, and in the game she just played (LotR), there were pieces of color that overlapped in both vanilla and power roles. But both **NAF1138** and **Total Lost** played Evil Dead 1. They should know that if there are vanilla roles in this game, they are likely to be identical, and that non-vanilla roles are likely to be wildly different from the vanilla PM(s) and each other. Yet both pushed the idea of mass posting bits of color from the PMs.

This strikes me as fishing, and thus fishy. I don’t have anything else compelling to vote on, so **Vote NAF1138** , and a second, non-binding vote on **Total Lost**.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/759 "2010-10-06T20:42:56Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
>
> > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
> >
> > With Romantic gone, my main suspicions shift to three people.
> > 
> > 1. **Oredigger** and **GuiriEnEspaña** are, more or less, tied for being the most suspicious in my opinion.
> > 2. **Drain Bead** is also (still), but less than the others.
> 
> Snipped the rest of the post, but this post bothers me. You spend most of it talking about **Guiri** , then end up voting for **Oredigger**. If it weren’t for the fact that nobody else has mentioned **Guiri** , I’d think you were trying to get cred if **Guiri** later flips Scum by mentioning how scummy you thought he was. But if you truly are scumbuddies, this is something that could backfire if people actually buy your case against him. I find this more scummy when the player you don’t vote for actually has the potential to end up on the block. Still, I’m moderately pinged.

As I’ve already said, the post mentions **Guiri** more than \*\*Ore \*\* because I’m explaining why I find Guiri suspicious…whereas with **Ore** , it should already be understood.  
I then, after explaining why I find **Guiri** suspicious, vote for **Ore**. I did say both of them are about tied, in case you forgot (or skimmed over that). I went with **Ore**.

So what am I missing here? Seems to me you’re saying I should have just said “I find Guiri suspicious” and not said why.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/760 "2010-10-06T20:52:24Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
>
> what’s confusing to me is that you seem so convinced he was town. and i understand that metagame comes into play at certain points but your defense of him along the lines of he doesn’t pay attention when he is town is just all sorts of wrong.
> 
> it’s almost like you knew he would flip non scum. but shit i don’t think he was a mason, near as i can tell. the only folks that would know that he would flip not scum would be scum, right?

Maybe I’m actually that good… 🆒

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