# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1101 "2010-10-10T16:37:51Z")
> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > i made my case. > > You did nothing of the sort. What you made was a half-arsed, barely-explained version of the case I made myself. > > Except it was me who presented them. You merely repeated what I said, then dodged all subsequent discussion until, conveniently, the day’s lynch had been concluded. > > What are you talking about? > > What question? > > You didn’t point out anything. > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > so really to some extent don’t explain to me why i am wrong explain to me why your behavior merits anything other than a vote. > > What behaviour? You mean the part where I explained why I thought Roman’s mistake to be more likely an indication of innocence than guilt? What more do you want explained? > > I haven’t knowingly ducked a single question here, and I have no intention of doing so. The problem is, you don’t seem to have a single question to ask… in post 945 you basically say that you have not made a case for **roman** being town. do we agree? but you have a half dozen post before that saying that he is town. do we agree? then you post that if **roman** flips town that makes you scum. do we agree? **roman** flipped town. shit i didn’t even need to do any lifting. i just used your case against you. do you argue at the mirror at times? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1102 "2010-10-10T16:45:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Page 7: Dread Magnetism - To curse a victim with dark attraction. This sounds like the lightning rod power from Apocalypse: all powers get redirected to the target. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1103 "2010-10-10T18:54:11Z")
Since **Oy!** asked for advice: > [@](#): > > 1. Small Mirror - With this small mirror, you may cast an enchantment on yourself to make you resemble another player. For that Night, any actions targeting you will fail. Any actions targeting your target will affect you instead. > > 2. Blue Crystal - Use this item and you will be able to observe the player of your choice in his/her travels for that Night, and learn his or her target. > > 3. White Powder - With this item, you may cast a spell rendering the player of your choice stronger and more skillful; any actions attempted by this player on the Night after you cast the spell will succeed, even if the player is role-blocked or otherwise prevented from acting (a player operating under the influence of the White Powder will be able to penetrate the illusion generated by the Small Mirror, #1 above). You may use the white powder on yourself, if you wish. > > 4. Clay Doll - With this item, you may cast a spell that will reveal the role name and generic power description (but not alignment) of a player of your choice. The spell creates a bond between you and the targeted player, such that he or she will know that you have targeted them with an investigative ability. > > 5. Small, Fragile Flower - Gift a player (including yourself) with this small, fragile flower and that player will be immune to Night kills for one Night at his or her discretion. A full Night of wearing the flower will cause it to wilt. Also note: the flower functions to protect a player only if no other actions are directed against that player during the Night. > > 6. Incense - There’s nothing magical about this stuff; it just stinks. Burn it in your room overnight and the scent will overpower any living being who attempts to target you with any action, repelling them and saving your life. Deadites, being from the bleakest, foulest pits of a Demon Dimension (Newark, NJ, to be specific), don’t mind the smell and will not be affected. 1. Can be used to shield someone with your life or to hide behind a random player and hope he isn’t targeted. I think it would be best used to protect a claimed doctor/investigator if there at least some reason to believe they aren’t faking it. Perhaps a mason would be best. Because it might get you killed I would say use it last. 2. Standard tracking. Can be used to confirm a power used or catch someone in a lie. I would use it on someone you find suspicious more than on someone you trust. I don’t think it should be used to verify claims. 3. Boost a power. Would be best use on an investigator but since you also claim some protective charm it would need to be one or the other. If truthful is makes a roleblocker very probably and likely a scum one but might also be meant to pierce protections (which makes it more likely a anti-town power). 4. No alignment but could be used to catch a lie which implies it might be best used on someone likely to claim which means likely to be lynched. 5. Weak protection but would tie up another power if someone wants to kill the target. 6. Vigilante/Serial Killer protection - a bit odd but Evil Dead I had two serial killer (not sure a vigilante) so it might be useful. So in general you got protective trinket and investigative ones. Since no protectors are out in the open and since I agree with the general sentiment that your prompt claim looks more town than scum: I would say to risk it and investigate and ask to be protect be someone else so you can return the favor in the future. Of course, it’s your call. Might as well go on: > [@NAF1138](#): > > Page 1: **Dread Curse** - To call the dread curse on a victim. > Page 7: **Dread Magnetism** - To curse a victim with dark attraction. > Page 13: **Dread Visage** - To curse a victim with a horrific mask. > Page 22: **Dread Fire** - To call forth dark fire on a victim > Page 48: **Dread Containment** - To hold the knowledge of a victim > Page 56: **Dread Finger** - To curse a thieving victim > Page 62: **Dread Forgetting** - To forget a victim exists > Page 70: **Dread Whisper** - To trouble the conscience of a victim > Page 84: **Dread Darkness** - To curse a victim with a shroud of Night > Page 99: **Dread Resurrection** - To call forth a victim from beyond the veil. 1. Role block? 2. Random redirect? 3. Make miller? Or similar to the incense: prevent action against the target except from Deadite? 4. Kill? 5. Other role block or get information from a corpse? 6. Yet another role block? 7. Protection? 8. YARB? 9. Block/protect? 10. Zombie puppet (like Evil Dead I) It might be worth confirming the protective ones which I think would be more benefitical to town. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1104 "2010-10-10T18:57:21Z")
Thank you, **Natlaw**! ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1105 "2010-10-10T18:59:04Z")
[QUOTE=Natlaw] 3) Boost a power. Would be best use on an investigator but since you also claim some protective charm it would need to be one or the other. If truthful is makes a roleblocker very probably and likely a scum one but might also be meant to pierce protections (which makes it more likely a anti-town power). [/QUOTE] I’m sorry, but could you translate that more fully into English? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1106 "2010-10-10T19:40:47Z")
What he’s saying is that any action taken by the target of White Powder becomes unblockable. If the scum have a roleblocker, they can use it to stop a power role from using their abilities. White Powder is a one-shot “booster” that allows their powers to work even if blocked. I agree with Natlaw’s analysis, by the way. The fact that you have a power that undermines a roleblocker would imply that there’s a scum roleblocker. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1107 "2010-10-10T19:57:23Z")
Thank you, **Astral**. I see now what **Natlaw** was saying, and I agree with both your assessments; Scum probably have a role-blocker. This is consistent with Evil Dead 1, Harry Potter, and LotR. Also, as **Natlaw** pointed out, a couple of the Necronomicon powers seem likely to be role-blocks. So there’s a whole lotta blockin’ that may be goin’ on. Btw, did I mention how well you played in LotR? Quite a contrast to this, my first outing. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1108 "2010-10-10T20:07:34Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I agree with Natlaw’s analysis, by the way. The fact that you have a power that undermines a roleblocker would imply that there’s a scum roleblocker. You’re assuming that Oy is honest. I’m not saying he’s not, but let’s not forget that the claim might not be completely honest. Storyteller does give out fake claims ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1109 "2010-10-10T21:19:06Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Storyteller does give out fake claims Isn’t this an assumption as well? I agree with it but I don’t recall us knowing for sure in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1110 "2010-10-10T21:20:47Z")
So someone new has the book anyway, now, right? I sure don’t. Anyone want to admit to having it? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1111 "2010-10-10T21:52:42Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > So someone new has the book anyway, now, right? > I sure don’t. > > Anyone want to admit to having it? I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. NAF said he hadn’t decided what, if anything, to do with it, and I haven’t seen anything that indicates he has made a choice yet. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1112 "2010-10-10T21:54:12Z")
Buh? I thought it was automatically up for grabs at the start of each Day/Night cycle? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1113 "2010-10-10T22:03:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Each Day and each Night, you may choose to do any of the following things: > > 1. Keep the Book and do nothing with it; > 2. Pass the Book to another player (note that this may be subject to observation); > 3. Return the Book to its pedestal in the common area; > 4. Use a power from the Book. I presume this means that NAF still has it. And perhaps he should use it once and then give it up. I can’t make heads or tails of all those curses on the various pages, but I’d go for an investigative type one if I could make one out. Not sure if it would be better for NAF to give it to a specific person or just put it back on the pedastal and let us have a free for all. If NAF is scum, he could just pass it on to another scum buddy. On the other hand, in a free for all, scum would have an equal chance of getting it, and it does seem like we might be able to direct it towards a townie if we can direct who NAF gives it to. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1114 "2010-10-10T22:50:18Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Each Day and each Night, you may choose to do any of the following things: > > > > 1. Keep the Book and do nothing with it; > > 2. Pass the Book to another player (note that this may be subject to observation); > > 3. Return the Book to its pedestal in the common area; > > 4. Use a power from the Book. > > I presume this means that NAF still has it. And perhaps he should use it once and then give it up. I can’t make heads or tails of all those curses on the various pages, but I’d go for an investigative type one if I could make one out. > > Not sure if it would be better for NAF to give it to a specific person or just put it back on the pedastal and let us have a free for all. If NAF is scum, he could just pass it on to another scum buddy. On the other hand, in a free for all, scum would have an equal chance of getting it, and it does seem like we might be able to direct it towards a townie if we can direct who NAF gives it to. uh, did i just like totally hallucinate **naf** saying he doesn’t have it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1115 "2010-10-10T22:55:14Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@TexCat](#): > > > > I presume this means that NAF still has it. And perhaps he should use it once and then give it up. I can’t make heads or tails of all those curses on the various pages, but I’d go for an investigative type one if I could make one out. > > > > Not sure if it would be better for NAF to give it to a specific person or just put it back on the pedastal and let us have a free for all. If NAF is scum, he could just pass it on to another scum buddy. On the other hand, in a free for all, scum would have an equal chance of getting it, and it does seem like we might be able to direct it towards a townie if we can direct who NAF gives it to. > > uh, did i just like totally hallucinate **naf** saying he doesn’t have it anymore. maybe you read it on the Scum board? ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1116 "2010-10-10T22:55:50Z")
What’s the worst case scenario for the Book? The way I look at it, the worst case is the Scum team getting a hold of the book without anyone knowing it. My understanding of the book mechanism as it has been elucidated thus far is that once a player has it, it’s his/hers until he passes it along or puts it back on the pedestal. Since we only know for sure who has the book when it is taken during the Day it might be better to have the book back on the pedestal before Dawn. This would give one night’s worth of power usage. My main concern with this idea is that if a Scum player is able to obtain the book, everything s/he does will be clouded by the book’s presence and the ability to pass it silently to other scum team members during the Night. I think it is in the Town’s best interest that the Book be on the pedestal at every Dawn and if not, we’ll lynch the previous Possessor. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1117 "2010-10-10T22:57:17Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > in post 945 you basically say that you have not made a case for **roman** being town. do we agree? No, that’s not what I said. I asked what I’d said that made you think I was **convinced** that Roman was town. > [@peekercpa](#): > > but you have a half dozen post before that saying that he is town. do we agree? No, again, that’s not right. I said I’d be surprised if he was mafia. > [@peekercpa](#): > > then you post that if **roman** flips town that makes you scum. do we agree? No, that’s just plain bollocks. Pointing out a possible case that might be made against me is nowhere near the same as saying “in that case, I’ll be mafia”. > [@peekercpa](#): > > **roman** flipped town. shit i didn’t even need to do any lifting. i just used your case against you. The case I made against myself was weak as shite. That’s why nobody else voted for me, and why I’ve been demanding a better justification of your vote. It seems, though, that your explanation involves a bizarre misreading of everything I said. Is this an attempt to appear unreasonable, and thus fit back into your standard townie behaviour pattern, as described by special ed? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1118 "2010-10-10T23:07:14Z")
neta: whoops i guess it was idle. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1119 "2010-10-11T00:27:37Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > So someone new has the book anyway, now, right? > I sure don’t. > > Anyone want to admit to having it? Why would he have given it away already? He has time to choose. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1120 "2010-10-11T02:23:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > > > So someone new has the book anyway, now, right? > > I sure don’t. > > > > Anyone want to admit to having it? > > Why would he have given it away already? He has time to choose. I didn’t think he had given it away. I thought it was it was free for the taking at the start of every Day and Night. I was wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=57)