# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1181 "2010-10-11T19:37:59Z")
**Is there any way of knowing whether or not Chipacabra died in a protective capacity?** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1182 "2010-10-11T19:38:01Z")
I wonder how much we should read into the color. It doesn’t indicate that Chip was protecting anybody when he died. But, of course, the color is just the color. Was there any precedent in the previous Story game for the color to indicate power usage? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1183 "2010-10-11T19:39:48Z")
From the Dawn Post > [@](#): > > As quickly as it came, his attacker retreats into the darkness, even as the third occupant of the kitchen flees in the opposite direction. Should this be taken literally? Does this indicate that perhaps there was a watcher investigating either Chip or his killer? If so, why would Story let us know? Perhaps someone has used a power that makes them visible to all? What might that be? Sorry, I’ve got no answers to any of these questions as of yet…unless someone wants to volunteer that they were watching Chip (or someone else) last night? But I’m not sure if that would be a wise thing to do at this point. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1184 "2010-10-11T19:41:54Z")
I guess the Martyr is not as potentially straight forward as I thought. I got my idea from [Common Mafia Roles - Smogon University](http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue5/mafia_roles), and the Evil Dead 1 role seems to be a variation on that (redirecting the target of powers vs redirecting the thrower of powers), and then there is another usage on Wikipedia indicating that it can be a sort of Re-animator role. It would be nice to know if Chip’s power had a hand in his own demise, but I don’t know how wise it is to be too curious about that. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1185 "2010-10-11T19:42:46Z")
OK, I had got it into my head (for no apparent reason) that Chip’s power would be a Day action. Upon rereading the Dawn Post, it does look like he might have ‘protected’ someone last Night, and that someone might have been the ‘third person’. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1186 "2010-10-11T19:46:28Z")
I will say that is some n00b-pandering color. Chip gets dialogue AND beer and poor Mhaye barely gets 2 words. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1187 "2010-10-11T19:54:53Z")
Ok, so here is the PM I got from Story, with the nature of the power redacted. I don’t know who has the book, and I don’t want them knowing what the power does until I do. That said, it doesn’t do what it would seem to at first glance, but it does make sense when you read the description. [QUOTE=storyteller0910] You find a dark corner in which to cast the spell you have chosen. The moment the cursed words escape your lips, a cold, black mist begins to fill the room. You feel as though it is seeping into your very pores. Eventually it subsides. [The next paragraph and a sentence or two leading into it and out of it have been redacted for the time being.] By the time you recover from the spell, the Book is gone from your room, stolen away. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1188 "2010-10-11T19:59:14Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I wonder how much we should read into the color. It doesn’t indicate that Chip was protecting anybody when he died. But, of course, the color is just the color. > > Was there any precedent in the previous Story game for the color to indicate power usage? In Evil Dead 1, when the Skanky Vampire role-blocked by being a skank, her target would have been told they had a very pleasant night. However, she was killed off before getting a chance to sleep around. ---
**Author:** ![Chipacabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Chipacabra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chipacabra)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1189 "2010-10-11T20:01:21Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > **Chipacabra, The Complete A-Hole** This, I think, surprises no one. Also, arg! Frikkin’ demon sumbitches! I’d like to think I gave them hella wedgies on the way out. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1190 "2010-10-11T20:09:24Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > I see that \*\*NAF \*\*is online, but hasn’t posted anything yet. It’s possible he has cursed himself with a post restriction for Today. > [@storyteller0910](#): > > There will be no post restrictions of any kind. > [@storyteller0910](#): > > Feel free to discuss this wrinkle, the rules, or anything else; there are no post restrictions of any kind in this game, and anything may be discussed by Day or by Night. > [@storyteller0910](#): > > 1. **Posting** > There are no post restrictions. As long as you are alive, you may post whatever you like, wherever you like, whenever you like…If someone claims a post restriction of any kind, they are lying; lynch them. After saying three times there will be no post restrictions, I’m pretty sure there will be no post restrictions. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1191 "2010-10-11T20:14:38Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > After saying three times there will be no post restrictions, I’m pretty sure there will be no post restrictions. 😛 Maybe after he says it three times it summons Beetlejuice or something… ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1192 "2010-10-11T20:53:23Z")
RIP MHaye and Chip. I may change upon further developments, but for now, **Vote: NAF**. I don’t like the way that he insisted on keeping the book. He says that it was taken from him, but again we have no proof that is the case. I’m not sure that I like his secrecy about what happened last night with his curse. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1193 "2010-10-11T21:00:42Z")
That’s what I was thinking. I can’t see a game mechanic that would allow the book to be taken. There are very specific options and rules laid out by Story, and I saw nothing that would indicate that the book could be taken if you tried to use it. But, a scum NAF could have grabbed the book and went all noble with the “I’ll sacrifice my self for the greater good schitck” only to end up with it “stolen”. I’m having a hard time swallowing that one. Sounds like a carefully connived scummy plan to me. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1194 "2010-10-11T21:07:08Z")
NETA - no I can see a game mechanic that would allow it. Like, if the book were to be used against the biggest baddest hell beast of all - as in evil Ash. As I recall, it’s his book and if it were to be used against him, he could conceivably take it back. However, that means that either NAF is evil ash (in which case he took it from himself?!?), didn’t use it on himself, or is making shit up. This is all speculation, but that’s all I got. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1195 "2010-10-11T21:07:28Z")
I no longer think NAF is as scummy or suspicious as I did before since he doesn’t have the book anymore. Oh, sure, he could have actually passed it on to another scum, if he’s scum himself…but my entire suspicion on him was mostly only because he insisted on keeping the book. Putting it back on the pedestal (my preferred choice), passing it on, or losing it to someone else is keeping it in motion, at least. Do anyone want to admit to having the book? I’m betting not. I don’t. And if everyone ingame says they don’t have it, either scum does and doesn’t want to admit it or it’s in some kind of game limbo right now known only to Storyteller. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1196 "2010-10-11T21:08:11Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > That’s what I was thinking. I can’t see a game mechanic that would allow the book to be taken. There are very specific options and rules laid out by Story, and I saw nothing that would indicate that the book could be taken if you tried to use it. > > But, a scum NAF could have grabbed the book and went all noble with the “I’ll sacrifice my self for the greater good schitck” only to end up with it “stolen”. > > I’m having a hard time swallowing that one. Sounds like a carefully connived scummy plan to me. Did you read this? > [@storyteller0910](#): > > Meanwhile, two things to chew over: > **SPECIAL NOTE** > > In the common room of the cabin is a smallish, unremarkable writing desk. Resting unopened on the desk is a book. It is an interesting book, aesthetically speaking, bound in what everyone has convinced themselves is light-colored leather and emphatically _not_ human flesh, and written in what folks are fairly certain is ink (they had red pens in the tenth century BC, right?). > > All in attendance are well acquainted with this book, if only from the survivor’s reports of the last party to be held here. This is Necronomicon ex Mortis, the Book of the Dead, hardbound passageway to the dark and dreadful worlds beyond our own. > > Anyone (well, nearly anyone) may take the Book at any time during the Day or by Night (beginning Day One). A player may take possession of the Book by sending the Moderator a PM any time during the Day/Night; if multiple PMs are sent to this effect, the Book will go to the first PM received (chronologically). > > Once a player has the Book, (s)he will learn more about what it might do. > > The catch? There are eyes everywhere. Anyone who takes the book by Day will be seen by all to have taken it. Anyone who takes the book by Night will sacrifice any other Night action they might have to do so, and will also be subject to observation by a variety of interested onlookers. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1197 "2010-10-11T21:18:10Z")
Good point Ed. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1198 "2010-10-11T21:24:32Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Good point Ed. Any further description of what the book power did to you? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1199 "2010-10-11T21:25:57Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > From the Dawn Post > > > [@](#): > > > > As quickly as it came, his attacker retreats into the darkness, even as the third occupant of the kitchen flees in the opposite direction. > > Should this be taken literally? Does this indicate that perhaps there was a watcher investigating either Chip or his killer? If so, why would Story let us know? Perhaps someone has used a power that makes them visible to all? What might that be? > > Sorry, I’ve got no answers to any of these questions as of yet…unless someone wants to volunteer that they were watching Chip (or someone else) last night? But I’m not sure if that would be a wise thing to do at this point. The third person could be the person \*\*Chip \*\*was protecting. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1200 "2010-10-11T21:26:31Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@brewha](#): > > > > That’s what I was thinking. I can’t see a game mechanic that would allow the book to be taken. There are very specific options and rules laid out by Story, and I saw nothing that would indicate that the book could be taken if you tried to use it. > > > > But, a scum NAF could have grabbed the book and went all noble with the “I’ll sacrifice my self for the greater good schitck” only to end up with it “stolen”. > > > > I’m having a hard time swallowing that one. Sounds like a carefully connived scummy plan to me. > > Did you read this? > > > [@storyteller0910](#): > > > > Meanwhile, two things to chew over: > > **SPECIAL NOTE** > > > > In the common room of the cabin is a smallish, unremarkable writing desk. Resting unopened on the desk is a book. It is an interesting book, aesthetically speaking, bound in what everyone has convinced themselves is light-colored leather and emphatically _not_ human flesh, and written in what folks are fairly certain is ink (they had red pens in the tenth century BC, right?). > > > > All in attendance are well acquainted with this book, if only from the survivor’s reports of the last party to be held here. This is Necronomicon ex Mortis, the Book of the Dead, hardbound passageway to the dark and dreadful worlds beyond our own. > > > > Anyone (well, nearly anyone) may take the Book at any time during the Day or by Night (beginning Day One). A player may take possession of the Book by sending the Moderator a PM any time during the Day/Night; if multiple PMs are sent to this effect, the Book will go to the first PM received (chronologically). > > > > Once a player has the Book, (s)he will learn more about what it might do. > > > > The catch? There are eyes everywhere. Anyone who takes the book by Day will be seen by all to have taken it. Anyone who takes the book by Night will sacrifice any other Night action they might have to do so, and will also be subject to observation by a variety of interested onlookers. I read it. It says that " Anyone who takes the book by Night will sacrifice any other Night action they might have to do so, and will also be subject to observation by a variety of interested onlookers." So, if someone took the book from NAF, then they should have been seen by anyone who was looking. Which implies that someone would need to be watching NAF in order to have the theft noticed. I’d say it’s probable that if we have a watcher, they would have been watching NAF last night to see what actions he actually took. So someone should have seen the theft. Unless, of course, the “shroud of darkness” prevented any watchers from seeing what happened to NAF, thus allowing the thief to escape without notice. Very convenient. So what we know for certain is that NAF took the Book on Day 1. All other information is only as reliable as NAF himself is, which is to say, somewhere between 0 and 100%. I would assume that whomever has the book at the moment is not Town. There is no evidence to support this assumption, but it’s my ‘gut feeling’. The question is: is that person currently NAF, or someone else? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=61)