# Evil Trump supporter tweets a strobe at Kurt Eichenwald **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963 "2016-12-17T19:32:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/21 "2016-12-17T23:58:54Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Good thing I haven’t advocated such a sentiment then, huh? > > I clearly stated that I didn’t agree with the posting of the strobe light. But actions have consequences, and whether a person deserves the results he gets from his actions or not, he certainly bears responsibility for them. It’s like the old saw about how a person deserves to be able to walk down a dark alley in expensive clothes and jewelry with money hanging out of his pockets and not be disturbed, but the reality is that anyone stupid and foolish enough to do so is very likely to get results he would have avoided if he’d behaved in a more intelligent fashion. Sure, you’re only saying that it’s mostly wrong but also a little right for them to attempt to give him a seizure. Like, 70% the asshole’s fault and 30% Eichenwald’s fault for being perceived by someone as an asshole. You’re talking out of both sides of your word hole here. Ambiguity really is the Devil’s volleyball! (Or in this case, the Sharter’s volleyball.) ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/22 "2016-12-18T01:30:09Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > That’s pretty fucked up but I doubt it will be the worst thing that will happen to a Trump critic at the hands of Trump supporters in the next four years. > > I give it a little less than 2 years from inauguration that a Trump supporter kills a Trump critic. Or vica versa…or maybe both camps can agree to kill one other and keep the rest of us out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/23 "2016-12-18T02:17:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I clearly stated that I didn’t agree with the posting of the strobe light. Nope. You weaseled a phony pretense of distancing yourself. What you _clearly_ did was to advocate more of the same: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Perhaps if he weren’t such a lying, obfuscating and obnoxious twit he wouldn’t inspire people to do things like that to him. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/24 "2016-12-18T02:53:59Z")
What if someone broke into Starving Artist’s house, broke his TV and computer, took a shit on his carpet, and raped his dog? Then, when he complained about it here, we could all remind him what a fucking _terrible_ person he is, and point out how much he deserves it. Except I’d like to think we wouldn’t, because we’re not _colossal_ assholes. Like Starving Artist. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/25 "2016-12-18T03:04:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Just more bullshit victim blaming. Never okay. > > You know, it’s okay to say “Eichenwald’s an ass, but being an ass doesn’t make one deserve epileptic assaults (or death threats, or rape threats, or whatever), and those such should be condemned” or similar. You don’t have to defend the actions of every conservative asshole. Certain things are beyond the pale, and not the fault of the victim. Starving artist defends child rapists. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/26 "2016-12-18T04:30:01Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > \ It’s like the old saw about how a person deserves to be able to walk down a dark alley in expensive clothes and jewelry with money hanging out of his pockets and not be disturbed, but the reality is that anyone stupid and foolish enough to do so is very likely to get results he would have avoided if he’d behaved in a more intelligent fashion. “Hey, if she hadn’t have worn those tight, revealing clothes, it wouldn’t have happened. I know she was passed out, but she didn’t say no. She was asking for it.” Note: not an actual quote by **Starving Artist** - that I know of. But certainly seems like a rough equivocation. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/27 "2016-12-18T04:36:36Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Starving artist defends child rapists. Fuck him. Only stupid people think that. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/28 "2016-12-18T04:54:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Only stupid people think that. Only stupid people think they can vacillate however they like and never get called on it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/29 "2016-12-18T04:58:21Z")
Wait a minute, hold everything. Tucker Carlson has a TV show? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/30 "2016-12-18T04:59:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait a minute, hold everything. Tucker Carlson has a TV show? The bow tie has a talk show, he’s just its host. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/31 "2016-12-18T05:00:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > A proposition likely less painful than with you, my dear. 🙂 Hello, SDMB emergency? Yes, immediate delivery, brain bleach for **Guinastasia**! STAT! How much? How much you _got_? Send the first couple gallons by cab, the rest when the truck is full. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/32 "2016-12-18T05:03:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I give it a little less than 2 years from inauguration that a Trump supporter kills a Trump critic. So far the only incident that resulted in a fatality involves a [“Trump critic” killing a “Trump supporter”](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3943180/Man-shot-dead-outside-Atlanta-bar-joking-voting-Trump.html). Previously there was a [non-fatal shooting of a “Trump supporter” by a “Trump critic”](http://abc30.com/politics/vietnam-vet-shot-for-being-trump-supporter/1446896/). ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/33 "2016-12-18T06:20:09Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Starving artist defends child rapists. Fuck him. With a paper towel tube. Coated with Super Glue and diamonds. ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/34 "2016-12-18T06:56:09Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Eichenwald is a lying, dishonest prick and in a more moral era would be an embarrassment to his publishers. [Witness his ridiculous behavior on Tucker Carlson’s show](http://finance.yahoo.com/news/im-asking-very-simple-fox-154539629.html) when called on his claim that Trump was hospitalized in 1990 for a nervous breakdown. Time and time again when asked by Carlson to state yes or no as to whether Trump had indeed been so hospitalized, Eichenwald refused to answer by claiming Carlson wouldn’t allow him to answer it. Repeatedly Carlson then would say go ahead and answer, and Eichenwald’s response yet again would be to claim he wasn’t being allowed to answer. He was phony, dishonest and dissembling the whole way through. > > Plus so far as I know there’s no reason for him to stay off Twitter. The strobe (whose posting I don’t agree with) was in the form of a GIF, which you have to click to get it to animate. It’s not like simply opening the site is going to suddenly inundate you with flashing strobe lights. Perhaps if he weren’t such a lying, obfuscating and obnoxious twit he wouldn’t inspire people to do things like that to him. WOWZA! Hey, Tucker Carlson is a big fat liar. What do you think his penalty should be? Pants on Fire! > **[Fact-checks | PolitiFact](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=tucker-carlson&ruling=pants-fire)** > > PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/35 "2016-12-18T07:25:59Z")
I really don’t care whether Tucker Carlson is a liar or not. He’s merely a talking head on a network known to be biased, just like his counterparts Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews at MSNBC. I care more about whether Kurt Eichenwald is a liar because he is alleged to be a journalist, even though he writes for _Newsweek_ and _Vanity Fair_. 😉 What galls me about Eichenwald is the way he refuses to either acknowledge or deny the existence of an occurrence he reported as having happened, claiming all the while that he’s being denied the opportunity to answer, when every time he says that it’s in response to having been given the opportunity to answer. And while I’m here I’ll state categorically that I utterly reject the notion that victimhood automatically and always relieves the victim of all responsibility for what happened to them, and that they are therefore never complicit in any way in the misfortune that happened to them. Stupid is as stupid does, and it’s just as stupid to go walking down a dark alley with money hanging out of your pockets, or if you’re a woman to throw caution to the wind and get passing out drunk with no thought as to the possible consequences, as it is to climb into a tiger pen at the zoo. The argument against victim blaming is well-intentioned and it serves a worthwhile purpose…up to a point. But taken to such an extreme that it completely absolves the victim of any and all responsibility for their own behavior is not only irresponsible and ridiculous, but dangerous as well. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/36 "2016-12-18T07:33:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And while I’m here I’ll state categorically that I utterly reject the notion that victimhood automatically and always relieves the victim of all responsibility for what happened to them, and that they are therefore never complicit in any way in the misfortune that happened to them. Stupid is as stupid does, and it’s just as stupid to go walking down a dark alley with money hanging out of your pockets, or if you’re a woman to throw caution to the wind and get passing out drunk with no thought as to the possible consequences, as it is to climb into a tiger pen at the zoo. The argument against victim blaming is well-intentioned and it serves a worthwhile purpose…up to a point. But taken to such an extreme that it completely absolves the victim of any and all responsibility for their own behavior is not only irresponsible and ridiculous, but dangerous as well. \ I’m sure you just made the [Turner family](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/08/stanford-had-a-rape-every-two-weeks-before-brock-turner-was-caught.html)’s Christmas card list. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/37 "2016-12-18T08:38:57Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I really don’t care whether Tucker Carlson is a liar or not. He’s merely a talking head on a network known to be biased, just like his counterparts Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews at MSNBC. I care more about whether Kurt Eichenwald is a liar because he is alleged to be a journalist, even though he writes for _Newsweek_ and _Vanity Fair_. 😉 > > What galls me about Eichenwald is the way he refuses to either acknowledge or deny the existence of an occurrence he reported as having happened, claiming all the while that he’s being denied the opportunity to answer, when every time he says that it’s in response to having been given the opportunity to answer. > > And while I’m here I’ll state categorically that I utterly reject the notion that victimhood automatically and always relieves the victim of all responsibility for what happened to them, and that they are therefore never complicit in any way in the misfortune that happened to them. Stupid is as stupid does, and it’s just as stupid to go walking down a dark alley with money hanging out of your pockets, or if you’re a woman to throw caution to the wind and get passing out drunk with no thought as to the possible consequences, as it is to climb into a tiger pen at the zoo. The argument against victim blaming is well-intentioned and it serves a worthwhile purpose…up to a point. But taken to such an extreme that it completely absolves the victim of any and all responsibility for their own behavior is not only irresponsible and ridiculous, but dangerous as well. Go have a seizure. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/38 "2016-12-18T09:01:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Go have a seizure. I think he’s been having one continuous seizure since 1968. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/39 "2016-12-18T09:16:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Starving artist defends child rapists. Fuck him. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > Go have a seizure. [Moderating] Don’t say other posters should be fucked, and don’t wish harm on other posters. No warnings issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/40 "2016-12-18T09:18:32Z")
You know, this reminds me of a point I read somewhere a while back. We often see stories of people doing stuff like biking to every MLB stadium, or walking the country for charity, or hiking from Canada to South America or what have you. They’re almost always guys, not just because women need to be worried about what could happen to them traveling alone, but also because they’d immediately be assigned responsibility for what happened to them, despite it being something that dudes can do and no one so much as shrugs, even if something bad does happen. It’s kind of sad to think about, really. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963.md?page=3)