# Evil Trump supporter tweets a strobe at Kurt Eichenwald

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963 "2016-12-17T19:32:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/61 "2016-12-18T23:17:37Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Eichmann, Eichenwald, who can tell the difference nowadays?

Me. Eich can.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/62 "2016-12-18T23:19:31Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Hell, so was Eichmann.

Ahhh, it isn’t just me that thought this.

🙂 and :D, but still ☹ and :mad:.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/63 "2016-12-18T23:32:58Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Me. Eich can.

Wald at’s gud, mann

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/64 "2016-12-19T02:14:46Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And while we’re on the subject of this manipulative, lying, dishonest faux-journalist, does a flashing light on a computer screen really have the same effect on an epileptic as an in-person strobe light? I’m asking because I really don’t know, but I do know I’m disinclined to take that guy’s word at face value on anything.

Yes, you twit, and you would have known this with a simple google search. Every computer game comes with a warning at the start about possible epileptic results prior to loading the game. They have for years. You are a small small man.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/65 "2016-12-19T03:04:53Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And while we’re on the subject of this manipulative, lying, dishonest faux-journalist, does a flashing light on a computer screen really have the same effect on an epileptic as an in-person strobe light? I’m asking because I really don’t know, but I do know I’m disinclined to take that guy’s word at face value on anything.

[Wikipedia article on Kurt Eichenwald:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia)

> [@Kurt Eichenwald](#):
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> Kurt Alexander Eichenwald (born June 28, 1961) is an American journalist who serves as a senior writer with Newsweek, a contributing editor with Vanity Fair and a New York Times bestselling author of four books, one of which, The Informant (2000), was made into a motion picture in 2009. He was formerly a writer and investigative reporter with The New York Times and later with Condé Nast’s business magazine, Portfolio. Eichenwald had been employed by The New York Times since 1986 and primarily covered Wall Street and corporate topics such as insider trading, accounting scandals, and takeovers, but also wrote about a range of issues including terrorism, the Bill Clinton pardons controversy, Federal health care policy, and sexual predators on the Internet.

Does the status of whether someone is a genuine or faux journalist make someone more worthy of serious physical injury or harm?

As to whether images/lights on a computer screen can cause a seizure, here’s what [the Epilepsy Foundation](http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/triggers-seizures/photosensitivity-and-seizures) says:

> [@The Epilepsy Foundation](#):
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> Not all televisions, video games, computer monitors, and strobe lights trigger seizures, however. Even in predisposed individuals, many factors must combine to trigger the photosensitive reaction. Examples include:
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> ```
> Frequency of the flash (that is, how quickly the light is flashing)
> Brightness
> Contrast with background lighting
> Distance between the viewer and the light source
> Wavelength of the light
> Whether a person’s eyes are open or closed
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> ```
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> The frequency or speed of flashing light that is most likely to cause seizures varies from person to person. Generally, flashing lights most likely to trigger seizures are between the frequency of 5 to 30 flashes per second (Hertz).

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/66 "2016-12-19T03:11:31Z")

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Apologies - [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Eichenwald) is the correct link for Kurt Eichenwald’s Wikipedia page.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/67 "2016-12-19T05:17:27Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Perhaps if he weren’t such a lying, obfuscating and obnoxious twit he wouldn’t inspire people to do things like that to him.

You’re a bad person.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/68 "2016-12-19T05:19:46Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> You’re a bad person.

Off to the cornfield with you.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/69 "2016-12-19T07:10:09Z")

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Don’t believe I’ve ever heard outrage and talk of victim blaming around here when Trump and his supporters have come in for abuse because of things he’s said and done. Where’s his right to behave provocatively without consequence, hmm?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/70 "2016-12-19T07:56:39Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Don’t believe I’ve ever heard outrage and talk of victim blaming around here when Trump and his supporters have come in for abuse because of things he’s said and done. Where’s his right to behave provocatively without consequence, hmm?

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Criticizing someone is the same as trying to cause someone to have a fucking seizure? Are you fucking high? What the FUCK is your fucking problem?

If someone tried to do that to Trump, I’d say they’re just as sick. You’ve got some serious fucking problems. Do you honestly not understand the difference?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/71 "2016-12-19T08:40:15Z")

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Be careful, **Guin**. He’s liable to metaphorically backhand you from the 18th century, for daring to be a female who didn’t receive permission to talk.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/72 "2016-12-19T11:17:22Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I’m asking because I really don’t know, but I do know I’m disinclined to

…get off my butt and do my own homework.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/73 "2016-12-19T12:41:49Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Criticizing someone is the same as trying to cause someone to have a fucking seizure? Are you fucking high? What the FUCK is your fucking problem?
> 
> If someone tried to do that to Trump, I’d say they’re just as sick. You’ve got some serious fucking problems. Do you honestly not understand the difference?

I certainly do, Guinny dear, and frankly I’m wondering if you’re the one who’s high, as I never said anything about wanting to cause him to have a seizure. But please don’t let the facts get in the way of your dudgeon.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/74 "2016-12-19T12:55:01Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Don’t believe I’ve ever heard outrage and talk of victim blaming around here when Trump and his supporters have come in for abuse because of things he’s said and done. Where’s his right to behave provocatively without consequence, hmm?

Criticism is not comparable to assault. Criticism is fine; assault is not.

Why not just try to look at it like a human, and recognize that trying to trigger an epileptic seizure in someone is wrong, full stop, with no victim blaming whatsoever? Maybe the guy deserves criticism – but attempted assault isn’t criticism.

I wonder sometimes if you’re capable of separating the human part of you from the conservative. They don’t always have to conflict. Some conservatives are assholes, and there’s no need to defend every one of them.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/75 "2016-12-19T14:36:44Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I wonder sometimes if you’re capable of separating the human part of you from the conservative. They don’t always have to conflict. Some conservatives are assholes, and there’s no need to defend every one of them.

“Cardboard Knighting”.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/76 "2016-12-19T14:41:04Z")

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Why does anyone even engage with Starving Artist at this point? Can anyone cite a single useful thing he has contributed to the boards, ever? Or is he basically just a practice dummy for venting well-deserved outrage? Just shut him out.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/77 "2016-12-19T14:46:18Z")

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He does serve as a good example of how not to be.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/78 "2016-12-19T15:51:58Z")

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> [@ganthet](#):
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> [Wikipedia article on Kurt Eichenwald:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia)
> 
> Does the status of whether someone is a genuine or faux journalist make someone more worthy of serious physical injury or harm?
> 
> As to whether images/lights on a computer screen can cause a seizure, here’s what [the Epilepsy Foundation](http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/triggers-seizures/photosensitivity-and-seizures) says:

Here’s the justification:

\*\* Originally Posted by Kurt Eichenwald\*\*  
Kurt Alexander Eichenwald (born June 28, 1961) is an American journalist who serves as a senior writer with Newsweek, a **contributing editor with Vanity Fair** …He was formerly a writer and investigative reporter with The New York Times a…covered Wall Street and corporate topics such as\*\* insider trading, accounting scandals, and takeovers\*\*, …

As we all now know, Vanity Fair had the unmitigated audacity, the gall, the effrontery, to give Trump’s pretentious and grossly overpriced restaurant a bad review, which triggered Trump. Because that is more important than trying to start learning how to be president or going to security briefings. So being so busy meeting with Kanye West and fighting with Saturday Night Live and holding “I won” rallies, (because those are so important) he had to make room in his busy sched to start a Twitter battle with Vanity Fair.

Or it could be the NY Times connection because umm didn’t the Times have the rudenss to mildly question something or other?

Or maybe just the matter of reporting on crooked "business"men?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/79 "2016-12-19T15:54:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Criticizing someone is the same as trying to cause someone to have a fucking seizure? Are you fucking high? What the FUCK is your fucking problem?
> 
> If someone tried to do that to Trump, I’d say they’re just as sick. You’ve got some serious fucking problems. Do you honestly not understand the difference?

I think it’s worse than that, as in

Knows But Doesn’t Give A Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/80 "2016-12-19T16:12:01Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Ahhh, it isn’t just me that thought this.
> 
> 🙂 and :D, but still ☹ and :mad:.
> 
> CMC fnord!

I was, of course, referring to Wilhelm “Chip” Eichmann, Adolph’s less murderous cousin.

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