# Evil Trump supporter tweets a strobe at Kurt Eichenwald

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963 "2016-12-17T19:32:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/81 "2016-12-19T17:25:59Z")

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Aside: There’s an original Netflix called _Conspiracy_, drawn from the meagre remains of the Wansee Conference, when the plan for the Final Solution was drawn up. Goddam good, which is to say, goddam awful.

It was a business meeting, like all the ones you’ve been to. A meeting, just a meeting. The horror. The horror.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/82 "2016-12-19T17:37:14Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Don’t believe I’ve ever heard outrage and talk of victim blaming around here when Trump and his supporters have come in for abuse because of things he’s said and done. Where’s his right to behave provocatively without consequence, hmm?

I haven’t had my caffeine yet, folks; which fallacy is this one?  
Not that I have a Bingo card of them or anything…yet.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/83 "2016-12-19T17:39:07Z")

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No doubt it’s “something something _absurdum_” This guy’s comments usually are.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/84 "2016-12-19T17:44:03Z")

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He doesn’t like Trump, just hates us more.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/85 "2016-12-19T17:45:22Z")

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This is just more proof of how racist America is. First they elect a racist President and now they try to racist a man to death through seizures.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/86 "2016-12-19T17:52:53Z")

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Didja see the impression of an impaired reporter Trump did! Comedy gold!

> **[Donald Trump Criticized for Mocking Disabled Reporter](https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/07/28/donald-trump-criticized-for-mocking-disabled-reporter/)**
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> The GOP candidate was claimed to have performed an unflattering impression of Serge Kovaleski, who suffers from a congenital joint condition, at a South Carolina rally.

Because he exposed Trump’s lie about seeing thousands of Muslims cheering for the fall of Twin Towers, 9/11. Thought I’d brighten up your day a little!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/87 "2016-12-19T18:29:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Aside: There’s an original Netflix called _Conspiracy_, {…}

Actually [BBC/HBO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_%282001_film%29), but see it any way you can!

> [@elucidator](#):
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> {…} It was a business meeting, like all the ones you’ve been to. A meeting, just a meeting. The horror. The horror.

Yeah, they weren’t monsters . . . they were mundane, and that’s part of what makes what they “accomplished” truly frightening.

But, hey, turn that frown upside-down and rest assured [_It Can’t Happen Here_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can't_Happen_Here)!

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/88 "2016-12-19T21:05:54Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> This is just more proof of how racist America is. First they elect a racist President and now they try to racist a man to death through seizures.

I get that you’re trying to be funny, but I don’t know whether to encourage you to try harder or encourage you to stop trying so hard.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/89 "2016-12-20T00:01:29Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I get that you’re trying to be funny, but I don’t know whether to encourage you to try harder or encourage you to stop trying so hard.

It’s a newer character they’re still working the kinks out of, I’m sure they’ll appreciate directional feedback.

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**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/90 "2016-12-20T00:20:40Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Don’t believe I’ve ever heard outrage and talk of victim blaming around here when Trump and his supporters have come in for abuse because of things he’s said and done. Where’s his right to behave provocatively without consequence, hmm?

But Trump is a lying, dishonest prick. Perhaps if he weren’t such a lying, obfuscating and obnoxious twit he wouldn’t inspire people to do things like that to him.

If something happens to Trump, I’ll remind you of what you said about Eichenwald.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/91 "2016-12-20T01:37:36Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I certainly do, Guinny dear, and frankly I’m wondering if you’re the one who’s high, as I never said anything about wanting to cause him to have a seizure. But please don’t let the facts get in the way of your dudgeon.

Why didn’t you reply to my post about games and epilepsy? It’s a real thing. You are a total doofas bastard.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/92 "2016-12-20T10:33:13Z")

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> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#):
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> Put me down for “deplorable, but not deadly.”

Caused actual injury and Eichenwald is [going after the perp.](https://www.scribd.com/document/334633059/FM-x-Eichen-Pop-202-1)

Chasing down and suing a troll - has to be a top ten fantasy for a whole lot of people.

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> "Petitioner is a senior writer with Newsweek who covers numerous topics, including politics. Petitioner has epilepsy, a fact about which he has written and discussed on national television programs. On the evening of December 15, 2016, John Doe (a/k/a Ari Goldstein, a/k/a @jew\_goldstein) (“Doe”) tweeted to Petitioner an image known to trigger seizures in people with epilepsy, e.g., a strobe image flashing at a rapid speed.
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> Doe sent this image with the intent of causing a seizure, as evidenced by the words Doe typed onto the strobe, “You deserve a seizure for your posts.” Doe succeeded in his effort to use Twitter as a means of committing assault, causing Petitioner to have a seizure which led to personal injury…
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> Petitioner seeks to obtain the identity of Doe in order to bring a suit against Doe for assault and other intentional torts.
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> The discovery sought is necessary because the identity of the Twitter user(s) responsible for the posts on @jew\_goldstein is unknown to Petitioner, as the user(s) of the @jew\_goldstein handle are and remain intentionally anonymous. .

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/93 "2016-12-20T21:10:33Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Caused actual injury and Eichenwald is [going after the perp.](https://www.scribd.com/document/334633059/FM-x-Eichen-Pop-202-1)
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> Chasing down and suing a troll - has to be a top ten fantasy for a whole lot of people.

[Twitter has actually agreed](https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/20/twitter-is-helping-to-find-a-user-who-sent-a-seizure-inducing-tw/)to “expedited relief” in this case, not challenging the order or asking for more evidence from Eichenwald.

This is getting interesting.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/94 "2016-12-21T15:49:10Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> [Twitter has actually agreed](https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/20/twitter-is-helping-to-find-a-user-who-sent-a-seizure-inducing-tw/)to “expedited relief” in this case, not challenging the order or asking for more evidence from Eichenwald.
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> This is getting interesting.

Good. I hope the asshole who did this has to face criminal charges. Oh sorry, did I just trigger SA by calling that asshole an asshole? Oopsie, my bad!

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/95 "2016-12-21T15:59:56Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And while we’re on the subject of this manipulative, lying, dishonest faux-journalist, does a flashing light on a computer screen really have the same effect on an epileptic as an in-person strobe light? I’m asking because I really don’t know, but I do know I’m disinclined to take that guy’s word at face value on anything.

Yes. For people who have light-triggered epilepsy, it can be about any source of light. Computers, televisions, movie screens, strobes in a club, or an imbecile riding a bicycle with a winking light. Which sources and at which frequencies will vary by person.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/96 "2016-12-21T16:23:31Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/97 "2016-12-22T00:18:54Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Yes. For people who have light-triggered epilepsy, it can be about any source of light. Computers, televisions, movie screens, strobes in a club, or an imbecile riding a bicycle with a winking light. Which sources and at which frequencies will vary by person.

I responded to an auto accident once where a driver had a seizure behind the wheel and hit another vehicle. He was postictal upon our arrival. But he started seizing again because of the lights on the ambulance.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/98 "2016-12-22T02:35:55Z")

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I believe some with photosensitive epilepsy use dark glasses to cope – at least that’s what Ad Rock of the Beastie Boys does for stage performances, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/99 "2017-03-18T22:48:41Z")

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Man arrested for Eichenwald strobe light attack.

> **[Suspect Arrested, Accused of Causing Writer's Seizure](https://www.newsweek.com/kurt-eichenwald-twitter-seizure-arrest-john-rivello-569813?amp=1)**
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> FBI officials arrested the man in Maryland on Friday, according to Kurt Eichenwald's lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-trump-supporter-tweets-a-strobe-at-kurt-eichenwald/774963/100 "2017-03-19T07:15:07Z")

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I’m glad they caught him. I was unaware that over 40 other people did the same thing to the man since the news of the first strobe message was reported on!

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