# Evolution **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 26, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337 "2011-05-26T19:15:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/21 "2011-05-26T19:38:51Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > A higher power was invented to explain the origin of everything and a reason why everything happens. It has everything to do with the Big bang. I only used those to as examples to show God didn’t create the Universe or man like the bible says. What if God appeared before you right now and told you that he had just created the entire universe as you perceive it in it’s current state, including you and your memories, ten seconds ago. How would you prove he was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/22 "2011-05-26T19:39:37Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > Why else would people believe in god I told you in my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/23 "2011-05-26T19:41:34Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > Why else would people believe in god Fine, you tell us. ---
**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/24 "2011-05-26T19:41:49Z")
Do youbelieve in god? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/25 "2011-05-26T19:42:21Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > Do youbelieve in god? Nope. But I can understand the appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/26 "2011-05-26T19:42:26Z")
10+ years of arguing over the premise of this OP (clarified) and we haven’t come to a consensus yet. Here’s hoping this thread settles the argument once and for all. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/27 "2011-05-26T19:42:34Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > We wouldn’t if no one believed in god they wouldn’t agree on what answer science gives is right. It may be that our views on the big bang and how it started are completely flawed. But, at the present no one can supply a solution that explains more. People would fight to explain it better and find out mor. Wars would decrease. terrorism as we know it would be gone. Wait, first you say that we have all the answers and therefore no longer need God to explain the origin of the Universe. Then you say we don’t have all the answers and that our views are all wrong. Pick one or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/28 "2011-05-26T19:42:35Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > It has everything to do with the Big bang. To many people, that would just sound like God. Religion doesn’t necessarily conflict science. It can, but that’s not a requirement. You are focusing on things like creationism and ignoring how people derive comfort from religion in times of grief and loss, how they share joy, and beliefs can shape a community. In short, you’re assuming lots of things that aren’t true and you’re misapplying science. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/29 "2011-05-26T19:42:53Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > Do youbelieve in god? Who are you talking to? Me? No, I do not. ---
**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/30 "2011-05-26T19:45:12Z")
What I’m saying is religion isn’t necessary. The reasons it once were needed no longer apply. The Big Bang happened before time as the Universe is time. Before then time as we would know i doesn’t exist. religion shapes communities by not allowing a freedom views. ---
**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/31 "2011-05-26T19:46:19Z")
Ok Meatros why not? ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/32 "2011-05-26T19:46:23Z")
The Catholic church acknowledges the big bang and evolution. Hell, the big bang theory wasfirat discovered by a Catholic priest. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/33 "2011-05-26T19:46:29Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > A higher power was invented to explain the origin of everything and a reason why everything happens. It has everything to do with the Big bang. I only used those to as examples to show God didn’t create the Universe or man like the bible says. > > If god does nothing then he is a sadistic evil man. He is willing to watch millions die of hunger and thirst. Would you want to spend eternity with someone like that? I wouldn’t. Hi…come here often? mmm ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/34 "2011-05-26T19:46:40Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > What I’m saying is religion isn’t necessary. The reasons it once were needed no longer apply. The Big Bang happened before time as the Universe is time. Before then time as we would know i doesn’t exist. religion shapes communities by not allowing a freedom views. Well, considering the number of theists in the world, I’d say people disagree with your interpretation of these things. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/35 "2011-05-26T19:47:44Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > Ok Meatros why not? There are several reasons. The primary tipping point was learning about Christian history and an introduction to philosophy and skepticism. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/36 "2011-05-26T19:48:50Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > What I’m saying is religion isn’t necessary. Neither is XBox but an awful lot of people spend a lot of time bowing at that altar and tithing a significant portion of their income to it. Do you begrudge them the enjoyment they receive from it? ---
**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/37 "2011-05-26T19:51:00Z")
An Xbox is it provides us with our need for violence and brain stimulation we crave. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/38 "2011-05-26T19:52:36Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > An Xbox is it provides us with our need for violence and brain stimulation we crave. You stay on your side of the argument. ---
**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/39 "2011-05-26T19:57:56Z")
No but think. we all need violence. Look at all the movies that have it any movie with a v for violence can satisfy it. That is why religion is pointless. It does no good. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/40 "2011-05-26T20:00:07Z")
> [@mla1](#): > > No but think. we all need violence. Look at all the movies that have it any movie with a v for violence can satisfy it. That is why religion is pointless. It does no good. My point is that [religion, historically, has always provided us with all the violence we need.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence) Maybe that is the answer to your OP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337.md?page=3)