# Evolution

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 26, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337 "2011-05-26T19:15:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/41 "2011-05-26T20:01:38Z")

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Evolution (and, for that matter, the Big Bang) are theories. They’re theories which, based on our current understanding of how life on Earth and the universe work, appear to do a pretty good job of explaining things. It’s entirely possible that, as we gain further understanding of these topics, those theories will be revised, or even thrown out entirely.

Few, if any, scientists would call either evolution or the Big Bang a “fact”.

For many people who believe in a higher power, that belief has little, if anything, to do with facts or rationality.

It also sounds like you’re hung up with the understanding that anyone who believes in God must automatically dismiss science and things like evolution. That’s not the case at all.

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/42 "2011-05-26T20:01:40Z")

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No it hasn’t. When has i?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/43 "2011-05-26T20:04:29Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> An Xbox is it provides us with our need for violence and brain stimulation we crave.

And religion provides us with a way to structure the random events in our lives into a meaningful story. Things don’t just happen. They happen for a reason. As pattern recognition machines, we find that very satisfying, even if the reason is entirely in our imagination.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/44 "2011-05-26T20:09:57Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> No i’m asking because we know evolution is a fact and that the Universe started in the Big bang why do people still insist on believing in a god there is no proof for.

Habit.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/45 "2011-05-26T20:13:56Z")

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Finally! Someone with all the answers, now I can prove to my wife that my 10 years on the board have not been wasted.

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/46 "2011-05-26T20:16:46Z")

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Structure is should be on the list of needs along with water and food. man created religion so it would have structure. If it is habit why do children?

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/47 "2011-05-26T20:20:58Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> why do children …

… exist? When a man loves a woman very much they [hug in a very special way](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_reproduction).

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/48 "2011-05-26T20:21:49Z")

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Perfectly rational people believe in God. They just don’t believe there is any rational proof of the existence of God. Which also means it doesn’t matter whether there is a God or not.

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/49 "2011-05-26T20:22:57Z")

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Haha screw you. I’ll take a bet you’re definately a church going person?  
am I right.

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/50 "2011-05-26T20:24:05Z")

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if it doesn’t matter (which it does it affects our education negatively) No rational person does.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/51 "2011-05-26T20:28:32Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> Haha screw you. I’ll take a bet you’re definately a church going person?  
> am I right.

**mla1** , what’s your deal? Why are you being so hostile to posters who, generally, are on the same side of this issue as you are? You sound like someone who’s had a religious conversion recently. Ask your questions but dude, chill out a little.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/52 "2011-05-26T20:28:51Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> No i’m asking because we know evolution is a fact and that the Universe started in the Big bang why do people still insist on believing in a god there is no proof for.

Answer is, I met God, great guy and He is also my daddy I am His child and I Love Him.

Oh yeah, He says hi 🙂

Really that is your answer, not only me but others have experienced actually meeting God. This has been going on since God created man, it’s not going to go away because it happens continually.

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/53 "2011-05-26T20:30:38Z")

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How does god look kanicbird?

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/54 "2011-05-26T20:31:17Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> Haha screw you. I’ll take a bet you’re definately a church going person?  
> am I right.

Who me? I haven’t darkened a church door in thirty years. What I would like to get across to you is that your position is just a ignorant and close-minded as that of the most ardent fundie. Live and let live dude.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/55 "2011-05-26T20:32:20Z")

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Okie-dokie.

Kanicbird has face to face meetings with Yaweh, and the OP, who shares my opinion on religion, is doing everything he can to stir as much shit as possible in just about the most obnoxious way possible.

This should be interesting – in a, say, doesn’t that train wreck sort of pique your interest, sort of way.

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/56 "2011-05-26T20:33:23Z")

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How is it close minded if god came through the door to my room right now or something that I truly believed couldn’t be explained by science I would become christian so quickly.

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**Author:** ![thelabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@thelabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelabdude)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/57 "2011-05-26T20:33:33Z")

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It is possible there is a God and he created the earth in such a way as to not have left proof of his existence. Can science prove God didn’t create the earth 6.1 X 10^3 years ago with the appearance of age?

Since science and religion are fundamentally different ways of understanding things, let’s quit abusing them to prove the other is wrong.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/58 "2011-05-26T20:35:34Z")

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> [@mla1](#):
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> How does god look kanicbird?

That is not the issue. The issue is whether you can prove that he did not meet God?

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**Author:** ![mla1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@mla1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mla1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/59 "2011-05-26T20:35:40Z")

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he didn’t create earth gravity did yes science has proven he didn’t, age on earth is gone due to life and water present hence we date it with the decay of moleculs, science has already proven religion to be fundementally flawed.

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**Author:** ![thelabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@thelabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelabdude)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evolution/583337/60 "2011-05-26T20:36:19Z")

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It is possible there is a God and he created the earth in such a way as to not have left proof of his existence? Can science prove God didn’t create the earth 6.1 X 10^3 years ago with the appearance of age?

Since science and religion are fundamentally different ways of understanding things, let’s quit abusing them to prove the other is wrong.

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