Noe is the old Roman Catholic spelling, from the Douai Bible (which replaced the Houai and was followed by the Louai). It has other fun stuff, like the Books of Jeremias, Osee, and Sephonais.
There’s a fun story about a fundy. missionary to the South Seas who runs into a local legend about a mariner named Noe who saves his family and their pigs from a massive flood. He believes he has independent proof of the flood story, until it comes out that the Noe story is from French Roman Catholic missionaries to the Tahiti area and has spread.
I have some questions about the blue whales, the sperm whales, and the giant squid, and how they were accomodated. Did they get first class cabins, or were they bunked in steerage?
I presume Noah didn’t need to take sealife and seabirds, maybe a few land birds. Maybe some seashore life. So he really had to provide all kinds of accommodations in tourist class. The clean animals in business class, and people first class. With meals!
(The following story is false and meant to be amusing. I ain’t accusin’ no real member of the FAA of nothin’. And I’m very sorry the people on that plane died.)
IF A CREATIONIST INVESTIGATED THE RECENT AIR DISASTER IN THE SAME WAY HE WOULD EXAMINE THE STORY OF THE FLOOD:
The FAA decided to examine radar data to determine the flight path of EgyptAir 880. They turned over the data to someone they don’t know is a Christian fundamentalist. His report reads as follows:
“At this point, God caused the aircraft to dive. At this point, the pilots caused the aircraft’s nose to rise and come out of the Divinely-caused dive. At this point, God caused the aircraft to dive again. And at this point, God caused the aircraft to disintegrate before the God-less pagans at the controls could attempt to thwart God’s will again. Why God chose to cause this plane to crash is obvious: No one aboard had ever turned their lives over to Christ and deserved to perish and go straight to Hell.”
I once worked at a convenience store for a woman who said that God struck down the space shuttle Challenger just as He struck down the Tower of Babel. “It’s obvious God is trying to tell us that man was not meant to fly in space.” She was not joking.
orangecakes, if your friends don’t believe the animals on the Galapagos Islands evolved, then just ask them how they think those animals got there after the Flood was over. The Galapagos tortoise can’t swim, for example. But its ancestors probably could.
And who wrote the Houai, Douai and Louai Bibles? Carl Barks??? Walt Disney, maybe??? Did they mention Saint Donald of Duck or the Holy Virgin Daisy???
Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to relive it. Georges Santayana
I thought they used to tell me viruses weren’t alive. . .or were those 1,000 you count of a different sort that are alive.
If you had nothing better to do, you could tell us how science today defines ‘life’. I hope your authority has a better definition than my 1982 dictionary:
“1. The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter.”
This dictionary then defines ‘living’ as:
“1. Possessing life; alive.”
Maybe this dictionary [Amer. Heritage, 2nd Coll. Ed., 1982] was actually compiled by Rollodex.
jab1:
How do you know there was any water in the Pacific Ocean for awhile after The Flood? Coulda been those G-tortoises, after emigrating from Mt. Ararat or wherever, just ambled out to those G-mesas and waited for the tide to rise before laying their eggs.
I might also ask whether angels are clean or dirty animals, because I would like to know how many angels there were on Noah’s tub. Now, don’t tell me there weren’t any, because I know I’ve heard many religious people speak of arkangels.
I don’t know that I know the “best explainer,” either. In college I had a text, The Men and the Message fo the Old Testament, by Peter Ellis that outlined the strands with a map of the verses, colored by (purported) author. I have no idea whether that book would still be in print. (It is also, an unabashedly RCC text–and a bit out of date by this time.) For general reference, I generally use Otto Eissfeldt’s Introduction to the Old Testament, but that will put a sizable hole in your wallet.
You might invoke the names of CKDextHavn or Pickman’s Model to see whether they will appear and offer a good “popular” text.
I can be appealed to to put my own spin on the JEPD strands, but I am not up to the challenge, this evening. (I had a college prof who had studied Joshua along with the Pentateuch and claimed that he could tease out a great many more than four authors/redactors–identifying each by verse. He was not a wild-eyed looney, so he probably had a good claim to most of his speculation, but I have not seen his name burst across the heavens of exegetical writings in the last 26 years, so I suppose he had encountered some difficulties publishing his findings.)
Thanks, Beruang, for remembering “anachronism” I definately need more memory.
And for Douay, Polycarp! Thank you, I wrote Noe without even thinking, I’ve lost count of how many version of the Bible we have here. I use all but one, makes no difference to me!
Thanks, Tom, for book names, I’ll look for those. Start a “New Topic” for JEPD when ready!
I’ve been working on Joshua by Boling and Wright (who also feel the first 6 OT books go together) and it is tough going. They talk about many more strands than 4 (pub. 1982 - The Anchor Bible) so I know I’ll have to re-visit JEPD.
If I may, Carl Barks is the writer/artist who created the Donald Duck comic books for Gold Key Comics, starting in the 40’s. He was a writer and animator for Walt Disney Studios and when Walt decided to license his characters to comics, Carl Barks volunteered to do the Duck stories. (Floyd Gottfredson handled the Mickey Mouse comics.) Carl is the actual creator of Scrooge McDuck and Donald’s nephews Huey, Dewey and Louie. In fact, Scrooge was a comic book character for nearly thirty years before he ever appeared in an animated cartoon. The last I heard, the 98-year-old Carl Barks is enjoying retirement in Oregon.
Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to relive it. Georges Santayana
Evolution ain’t really a predicitive science. No one can really say, unless we do an experiment. Volunteers?
Nanobyte:
It’s been a lot of years since college biology class, but I recall two of the defining characteristics were reproduction and “real growth” (as opposed to mere accretion of material). Anyway, didn’t Cecil cover this once?
