# Ew... Fred Phelps was in my city!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 14, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745 "2003-06-14T04:13:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/1 "2003-06-14T04:13:26Z")

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[This](http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jun2003/Billy_Balaam_Graham_6-5-2003.pdf) is a .pdf

I don’t know how to make it post to the board (maybe someone else here does)

Partial

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> _from Westboro Baptist Chuch newsletter of June 5, 2003_
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> WBC to picket the ol’ fag-enabling heretic, Billy “Balaam” Graham --7:00pm Fri. June 13 @ Ford Center, Oklahoma City, Okla. – in religious protest & warning: "God Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers! _Ergo_, God hates, abhors, despises Billy Graham!

[Here’s Graham agenda](http://www.billygraham.org/ourMinistries/evangelisticEvents/missions/oklahomaCity/)

Now, I don’t agree with everything I’ve ever read from Rev. Graham, but at least he’s nice. He seems to really have a message for anyone who’s curious/interested. He’s just, I would say, a middle of the road Christian preacher. Take him or leave him.

(No, I’m not going. Doesn’t interest me that much.)

But, here comes Fred, breathing fire and brimstone, actually stopping people on their way in to see Rev. Graham, berating them for supporting a blasphemy. Calling Graham (and anyone supporting him) a heretic. :eek:

And doing it with style and class. He had a bull horn, and was “behaving as a prophet.” (iow, acting crazy) :rolleyes:

What hate this man has! Where did it all come from?

And why did he have to bring his diseased heart to _MY_ city?

Now I won’t be able to go downtown for days, lest I should mis-step and find myself in a pile of Phelps Shit.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/2 "2003-06-14T04:16:40Z")

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if you’re wondering…

I just caught a clip on my local news channel about it. Piqued my curiosity as to why Phelps would be picketing a Graham revival.

Now I’m sorry I looked.

But, I had to share. Enjoy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/3 "2003-06-14T05:31:50Z")

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Another reason San Francisco is great. We will never, ever have Fred Phelps visit us. 😃

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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/4 "2003-06-14T07:45:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Ew… Fred Phelps was in my city!  
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Ick! Rinse thoroughly, and try to find some iodine. You don’t want to spread _that_ around.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/5 "2003-06-14T09:38:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Troy McClure SF \*  
> \*\*Another reason San Francisco is great. We will never, ever have Fred Phelps visit us. 😃 \*\*

Hm. You think that many homos can keep him at bay?

Should the SDMB gay mafia get throngs of gay men to try and drive him into the ocean?

😃

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**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/6 "2003-06-14T11:19:51Z")

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Now your whole city has cooties. Go touch another city, fast!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/7 "2003-06-14T11:21:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Troy McClure SF \*  
> \*\*Another reason San Francisco is great. We will never, ever have Fred Phelps visit us. 😃 \*\*

That’s a joke, right?

Phred has been to San Francisco. I remember when Randy Shilts, journalist and author, died and Fred talked about picketing his funeral. They came all the way from Kansas and stayed for less than a minute. I recorded the news videos from ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN. They tried to stand across the street from tne church(with a line of police protection in front of them mind you). Some of the Shilts supporters must have had military experience, because they started lobbing eggs and such _over_ the heads of the grinning cops that arced _downward_ onto to heads of the picketers.

The best clip, from CNN, showed a speaker inside the church. “The good reverend said he’d come here to shadow us like some sort of ugly dog. That’s just the sort of statement I’d expect from a son of a bitch.”

Oh well, I guess I’m used to him. I live in Topeka, Kansas, his home base, and see him all the time. He picket my church. Back when this all started I did a lot of counter picketing with different groups. I remember folks asking me "ARen’t you afraid people will think you are gay?(I’m a straight female) One of my favorite pictures from those days is that of Bishop William Smalley, of the Episcopal Diocese of Kansas, holding a witnessing sign at St.David’s Episcopal Church here in Topeka. A windy day, we really had to brace ourselves, looks very symbolic. I was glad the bishop showed active support for us when witnessing to the true meaning of the Gospel, not Fred’s perverted ideas.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/8 "2003-06-14T11:54:57Z")

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Actually, I would imagine that Fred would get his ass kicked royally if he came to San Francisco.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/9 "2003-06-14T14:37:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \*  
> \*\*Should the SDMB gay mafia get throngs of gay men to try and drive him into the ocean? \*\*

I first read that as “thongs.” In which case yes. Yes, they should.

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/10 "2003-06-14T15:00:48Z")

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Forget Phelps…

PSALTY THE SINGING SONGBOOK? In the name of all that is holy, who thought that was an ingenious idea?

What… the… hell?

[http://www.psalty.com/index.htm](http://www.psalty.com/index.htm)

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/11 "2003-06-14T15:09:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Actually, I would imagine that Fred would get his ass kicked royally if he came to San Francisco. \*\*

Actually, **Guin** , Randy Shilts funeral _was_ in San Francisco!

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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/12 "2003-06-14T16:09:54Z")

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So now you qualify as a Superfund site?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/13 "2003-06-14T17:20:17Z")

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Topeka would have to be first in line. Their family “compound” is expanding. I drove by there about an hour ago and I noticed a new house is being put up at the corner of their block. The privacy fence is being extended to take it in.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/14 "2003-06-14T17:59:34Z")

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Feh, I say! FEH!

What a revolting development.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/15 "2003-06-14T21:03:13Z")

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I know-I read it. I’m just surprised that he had the nerve to come there. I mean, d’uh.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/16 "2003-06-15T01:10:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Priam \*  
> \*\*Forget Phelps…
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> PSALTY THE SINGING SONGBOOK? In the name of all that is holy, who thought that was an ingenious idea?
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> What… the… hell?
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> [http://www.psalty.com/index.htm](http://www.psalty.com/index.htm) \*\*

This may creep you out a bit… I remember watching those in elementary school. His children are Melody, Harmony, and Rhythm, right?

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/17 "2003-06-15T04:51:36Z")

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When (they) come back, bring [pie](http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2003/06/6965.php).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ew-fred-phelps-was-in-my-city/181745/18 "2003-06-16T01:45:40Z")

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Wow. I think more people should get pies thrown at them.

Then again, Phelps is one of those guys I wouldn’t much regret shooting in the head. Smug, hateful, disgusting pervert. Shudder. If I saw the man face to face, I don’t think I’d be able to resist slugging him.

(Not pervert as in sexual weirdo, mind, though I don’t know what he gets up to in his bedroom. But tell me something about the wanker’s not perverse.)
