# Ewwww.... Human baby dishes from China - Link goes to images

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**Created:** [February 27, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767 "2003-02-27T00:45:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![McLeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@McLeo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McLeo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/1 "2003-02-27T00:45:56Z")

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I came across this site and I was wondering if this was true. I know that it’s been discussed before but I have never actually seen pictures of baby delicacies before.

WARNING - This link contains images of babies and placenta being cooked and served. Do NOT click on this link if you are easily disturbed by this.

[http://kantchong.com/article/eatbb/](http://kantchong.com/article/eatbb/)  
So is this real? Do the Chinese really eat babies?

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**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/2 "2003-02-27T00:51:45Z")

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Snopes seems to think not: [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.htm](http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.htm)

Yucky pictures though.

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/3 "2003-02-27T00:51:45Z")

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[www.snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com) is your friend. They don’t really eat babies.

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**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/4 "2003-02-27T00:53:05Z")

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The winnah!

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**Author:** ![McLeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@McLeo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McLeo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/5 "2003-02-27T00:56:06Z")

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But what about the photos? They seem very real to me. And in the last two photos you can actually see a cooked baby inside the soup. Was it digitally manipulated?

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/6 "2003-02-27T01:03:38Z")

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McLeo, it’s a fraud. It isn’t a real baby.

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**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/7 "2003-02-27T01:03:59Z")

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Yes, probably digitally manipulated, or staged.

You cannot possibly take this seriously. I know they’re communist, but they don’t cook and eat their children.

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**Author:** ![Rabid\_Squirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Rabid\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rabid_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/8 "2003-02-27T01:16:51Z")

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The Chinese eats lots of things. But not humans. Either that or my parents have a _lot_ of explaining

WAG, but I think the Papa New Guineans are the only culture who still practices cannabilism and even then it’s on the way out.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/9 "2003-02-27T01:21:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rabid\_Squirrel \*  
> \*\*WAG, but I think the Papa New Guineans are the only culture who still practices cannabilism and even then it’s on the way out. \*\*

Oh, and don’t forget the Dutch.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/10 "2003-02-27T01:28:49Z")

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These pictures look plenty real to me. I know everyone is a photoshop expert in this day and age, but really. And a hysterical snopes cite doesn’t cut it.

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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/11 "2003-02-27T01:29:16Z")

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That has to be the coolest page. I remember reading at [Rotten](http://www.rotten.com) that those are monkey fetuses not human fetuses.  
And according to [Albert Fish](http://www.crimelibrary.com/fish/fish/fishmain.htm) he acquired a taste for human flesh when he was in [China](http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/fish/capture_3.html?sect=1) but considering this was the late 19th century/early 20th century it was probably in vogue to claim such strangeness was learned or encouraged in the orient.

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**Author:** ![IThinkNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ce73a5/32.png) [@IThinkNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IThinkNot)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/12 "2003-02-27T02:18:23Z")

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Are those pictures real? [enter my username]

Honestly. Chinese, Japanese and Koreans pull off some seriously bizarre stuff (bonsai kittens, square watermelons, etc.) but I do not believe they would cook and eat their children. That is cruel and sick, and I think you have been quite expertly duped.

There’s no way the common people would allow that to happen. They are Communist, but they are not freaks.

However, I do have to say that whoever created that (very unprofessional and very poorly made) web site did an excellent job of altering.  
I expect I could make those pictures. You get a picture of a fetus, blur it, maybe apply the Burn tool in a few areas to make the pink skin darker, then carefully select it, apply Glass (which is what it looks like in the soup) and you’ve got it. On the plate would be easy, all you’d have to do would Liquify some red around it for blood. It would take some tinkering, but you could do it. You’d have to use empty plates and bowls, I think, because it would be difficult to erase actual food and substitute the fetuses.

The bottom line: THE PICTURES ARE NOT REAL.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/13 "2003-02-27T02:29:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by IThinkNot \*  
> \*\*Are those pictures real? [enter my username]  
> However, I do have to say that whoever created that (very unprofessional and very poorly made) web site did an excellent job of altering.  
> I expect I could make those pictures. You get a picture of a fetus, blur it, maybe apply the Burn tool in a few areas to make the pink skin darker, then carefully select it, apply Glass (which is what it looks like in the soup) and you’ve got it. On the plate would be easy, all you’d have to do would Liquify some red around it for blood. It would take some tinkering, but you could do it. You’d have to use empty plates and bowls, I think, because it would be difficult to erase actual food and substitute the fetuses.
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> The bottom line: THE PICTURES ARE NOT REAL. \*\*

The pictures look real to me. But I am not a photoshop expert.

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**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/14 "2003-02-27T03:26:10Z")

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Now for the real question - does baby taste like chicken?  
d&r

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/15 "2003-02-27T03:27:38Z")

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**zuma** , I wouldn’t characterize snopes as being “hysterical”. The entire point of snopes is to be the opposite: level-headed, methodical, well-researched and resistant to hype.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/16 "2003-02-27T03:28:19Z")

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[Bonsai kittens](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bonsai.htm) are an Urban Legend too.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/17 "2003-02-27T03:44:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by IThinkNot \*  
> \*\*Are those pictures real? [enter my username]
> 
> Honestly. Chinese, Japanese and Koreans pull off some seriously bizarre stuff (bonsai kittens, square watermelons, etc.) \*\*

The “bonsai kitten” is a well-established joke site. Totally made-up.

Okay, now as for the “cooking baby” website. First prolbem I see. It starts off by implying that the babies were newborn and are eaten because of China’s “one child policy.” The photos show a baby that is clearly not a full-term infant. It also says that they eat more girls than boys (presumeably because they want more boy babies) – foetus is male.

It also claims that “Mr. Ko” has cooked 60-70 babies _alive_. :dubious:

There is also the disclaimer at the bottom:

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> Source: One of my friends sent me these information and photos. I didn’t verify the reliability of this source. If you have more information about this article, please let me know! Thank you!

The photos, disturbingly enough do not look digitally manipulated. However, I’m also not sure what I’m seeing. FX Smith (who did prosthetic effects for many Oliver Stone movies) did some seriously realistic looking stuff using a monkey foetus as a starting point. (Cast a monkey, and you can make fake babies from the mould.)

Some of the shots are also really clear and careful. I have a feeling the baby is real, but I’m dubious about the “cooking.”

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**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/18 "2003-02-27T04:19:54Z")

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There was a discussion about this very thing not too long ago, and the Snopes article was discussed also.

[Artist to eat stillborn dead baby as performance art- Why is this even legal to show?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153448)

Pretty good thread, you may want to check it out.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/19 "2003-02-27T07:57:34Z")

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Chineses eat almost anything, but they aren’t cannibals and typically they have good tastes.

Taken from Snopes:

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> Its origin was quickly uncovered: The man in the photo is Chinese artist Zhu Yu, who performed a conceptual piece called “Eating People” at a Shanghai arts festival in 2000. The controversial photo has since been part of a number of art exhibits. As for the “baby,” it was most likely constructed by placing a doll’s head on a duck’s carcass.

Seems like concrete evidence that the ‘baby’ is fake. Since there is a name and a definte event, I guess anyone interested to get to the bottom of this could defintely do so.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ewwww-human-baby-dishes-from-china-link-goes-to-images/157767/20 "2003-02-27T11:41:21Z")

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I have heard of placenta soup. I’d say that it’s even likely that some people eat this. Widespread practice - not. boiling baby foetus’ - not.

Besides Snopes, there’s also the gullibility test. Take something so completely unbelieveable, and set the event in China and someone out there will think it’s “true.”

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