# Ex-West EMT moved to undisclosed location **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 16, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507 "2013-05-16T13:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/1 "2013-05-16T13:46:00Z")
This may not be pit-worthy, it probably is not, but everyone hates my guts here and no doubt any responses would belong in the Pit. The link gives some background - but the latest is that this former EMT in West, Texas - a first responder to the fertilizer plant fire/explosion - has been taken from the county jail by federal authorities to an undisclosed location Maybe the explosion was not an accident - though there is no EVIDENCE to link Mr Reed to the April 17th explosion - at least that has been repeated up until now by local authorities [http://keyetv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/exwest-emt-plead-not-guilty-charges-8652.shtml](http://keyetv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/exwest-emt-plead-not-guilty-charges-8652.shtml) Some things just don’t add up – originally investigated by the McLennan County Sherriff’s office for “having the makings of a pipe-bomb”; Reed (who adamantly maintains innocence) was apparently whisked out of county jail by the Feds and now the charge has been changed to “illegal possession of a firearm”. ??!!?? Yet Reed was a first-responder to the fire at the fertilizer plant - which was an industrial accident - or was it? 😕 Mods - feel free to move to more appropriate forum, no intention to anger pizzaguy further with boring Pit threads ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/2 "2013-05-16T13:52:24Z")
[http://www.keyetv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/exwest-emt-plead-not-guilty-charges-8652.shtml](http://www.keyetv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/exwest-emt-plead-not-guilty-charges-8652.shtml) link maybe not working, I dunno ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/3 "2013-05-16T13:52:51Z")
From the info available it appears that his arrest and the fertilizer plant explosion are unrelated. The fact that he was a first responder to the fire is likely just a coincidence. I don’t currently see any reason to jump to any conclusions based on the information we’ve been provided. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/4 "2013-05-16T14:09:22Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > everyone hates my guts here Thanks for the heads-up! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/5 "2013-05-16T14:14:52Z")
I have no feelings at all one way or the other about the contents of your abdomen. It’s your posts that I think are shit. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/6 "2013-05-16T14:19:15Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > From the info available it appears that his arrest and the fertilizer plant explosion are unrelated. The fact that he was a first responder to the fire is likely just a coincidence. I don’t currently see any reason to jump to any conclusions based on the information we’ve been provided. It looks a little more potentially sinister than that. A second story from the linked page says that there is “no evidence linking his arrest” to the fire and explosion, but then says “Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives special agent Douglas Kunze says in the complaint that the McLennan County Sheriff’s Office was called earlier this week to a home near West where they found a pipe, a variety of chemicals and fuses. They say the objects belonged to Reed, who didn’t enter a plea when he appeared in court Friday.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/7 "2013-05-16T14:24:27Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > This may not be pit-worthy, it probably is not, but everyone hates my guts here and no doubt any responses would belong in the Pit. I save my hatred for when it’s worth the time and effort. ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/8 "2013-05-16T14:26:39Z")
Whether it’s potentially more sinister, I can’t tell. But getting whisked away from county jail to an undisclosed location by the Feds is to me something that would not be done for no reason, so I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/9 "2013-05-16T14:36:10Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > Whether it’s potentially more sinister, I can’t tell. > > But getting whisked away from county jail to an undisclosed location by the Feds is to me > something that would not be done for no reason, so I don’t know. An undisclosed location just means they didn’t tell the press where he was. They might be questioning him at a Denny’s right now. This means nothing. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/10 "2013-05-16T14:57:24Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > An undisclosed location just means they didn’t tell the press where he was. They might be questioning him at a Denny’s right now. This means nothing. 😃 I would _really_ like to think that they ARE interrogating him at a Denny’s. “Alright alright I’ll talk! I’ll tell you whatever you want to know, _just don’t make me eat here_!” ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/11 "2013-05-16T15:16:51Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > An undisclosed location just means they didn’t tell the press where he was. They might be questioning him at a Denny’s right now. This means nothing. I wish the feds were questioning me at Denny’s right now. I could order a Grand Slam Breakfast. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/12 "2013-05-16T15:18:32Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > This may not be pit-worthy, it probably is not, but everyone hates my guts here and no doubt any responses would belong in the Pit. Don’t hate _you_ per se, hate the stupid affectation you put on. Then again, if that’s truly you, then yeah, most people here hate you (save a few that are mildly amused by their fetid socks). ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/13 "2013-05-16T16:26:34Z")
mmmm build your own Grand Slam… yummy I doubt however , that Reed is being treated at Denny’s by the Feds He is either: 1. COMPLETELY innocent, like the first “Ricin letter guy” that was nabbed and later they said “Oops, not him” or 1. He is guilty of having illegal pipe-bomb components and/or unregistered firearm, but is NOT connected with the 17 April explosion (this I think is most likely) or 1. Something “more sinister” is in the mix ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/14 "2013-05-16T16:29:24Z")
in any case, his life has been pretty well messed-up even by accusation ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/15 "2013-05-16T16:30:13Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > mmmm > > build your own Grand Slam… yummy > > I doubt however , that Reed is being treated at Denny’s by the Feds > > He is either: > > 1. COMPLETELY innocent, like the first “Ricin letter guy” that was nabbed > and later they said “Oops, not him” > > or > > 1. He is guilty of having illegal pipe-bomb components and/or unregistered firearm, but is NOT > connected with the 17 April explosion (this I think is most likely) > > or > > 1. Something “more sinister” is in the mix Is there some reason you can’t wait until we find out which it is before you Pit whatever it is you are currently Pitting? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/16 "2013-05-16T16:33:24Z")
I’m not following the story closely, but I’ll say that the first thing that went through my mind when I read your thread title was “_fear of a potential mob-justice situation emerging_.” ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/17 "2013-05-16T16:33:44Z")
just ANXIOUS, I guess, Mace. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/18 "2013-05-16T16:33:49Z")
Allow me to congratulate the OP for more coherence than I have come to expect from him. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/19 "2013-05-16T16:39:53Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Allow me to congratulate the OP for more coherence than I have come to expect from him. Yeah. I hadn’t noticed the OP before, so I wandered off to see why he thought everyone hated him. Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507/20 "2013-05-16T16:46:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I’m not following the story closely, but I’ll say that the first thing that went through my mind when I read your thread title was “_fear of a potential mob-justice situation emerging_.” Since the result of the investigation into the cause of the explosion is supposed to be announced later today, you may be right. If so, the OP’s option 3 is probably the right answer. But this is all speculation on my part; we’ll see. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ex-west-emt-moved-to-undisclosed-location/658507.md?page=2)