# Examples Of Actors Playing Best Friends, When In Real Life The Actors Hate Each Other **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 27, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482 "2009-07-27T21:00:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/81 "2009-07-29T09:50:03Z")
> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#): > > And they’re not actors, but I’ve heard that Joey and Johnny Ramone didn’t speak to each other for at least the last decade the Ramones were together, even though they stood about five feet from each other on stage. From what I remember hearing, they _hated_ each other. I think some of the tensions in the Ramones was because Johnny Ramone was politically very conservative and none of the others were. Also, I guess **Lieko** posted the link to Wil Weaton’s blog before I did. I scanned the thread to see if anyone replied to **Frylock** ’s question but I guess I passed right by it. Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/82 "2009-07-29T12:18:15Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > From what I’ve read, she’s a bit of a diva. And apparently didn’t realize that while her character’s name was in the title, that it was actually an ensemble show. > > This is especially interesting when you realize that she has had the worst post-Buffy career out of practically the entire cast. As it should be, since she was far and away the worst actor on the show. Just godawful, while pretty much everyone else rocked it. Damn shame. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/83 "2009-07-29T15:17:37Z")
> [@Talon\_Karrde](#): > > From what I remember hearing, they _hated_ each other. I think some of the tensions in the Ramones was because Johnny Ramone was politically very conservative and none of the others were. Also because the KKK took his baby away. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/84 "2009-07-29T16:26:45Z")
Regarding _Roseanne_, I think John Goodman, being the professional that he was, put up with a lot from Roseanne-Barr-Arnold-Just Plain Roseanne, because she didn’t start out as an actor but as a comedian. Certainly the actors who played the kids on the show have mostly gone on to bigger and better things, which I think we can credit Goodman’s professionalism. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/85 "2009-07-29T16:37:21Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Arnold seems to have gotten a really bad rap. Honestly, I would be shocked if Tom Arnold was any sort of a dick, manipulative or otherwise. I admit I haven’t seen much of him beyond when he’s acting, but he’s always struck me as a decent guy. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/86 "2009-07-29T16:59:07Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Also because the KKK took his baby away. Yep Johnny stole Joey’s girlfriend. Johnny appeared to be a dick. That said, he kept the band together and made sure that they all go paid, especially Joey so he wasn’t a one-dimensional bad guy. ---
**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/87 "2009-07-29T18:54:34Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > At least two of them…the ones playing Hyde and Donna…are clam worshippers. Think “Donna” is or was involved with “Hyde”'s real life brother who had a smallish part on the show, and is also a clam worshipper. Hyde, Kelso, and Fez are partners in a restaurant, I think. I don’t know about being on That 70’s Show but Hyde’s real life brother was the older brother on Malcolm in the Middle. The one who was in military school and then worked at that dude ranch. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/88 "2009-07-29T19:23:23Z")
> [@scifisam2009](#): > > David Duchovny really didn’t get on with Gillian Anderson, by all accounts. Not hate, but definitely not friendly either. I heard it was closer to hate. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/89 "2009-07-29T19:25:45Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > From what I understand, one of the few things that everyone in Hollywood can agree on is that Richard Gere is a dick. Really? I never would have guessed. Anyone got a link? ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/90 "2009-07-29T20:17:15Z")
Back to Shannon Doherty (howeverthat’sspelled). She is renowned for being a bitch and was replaced on _Charmed_ after a showdown with Alyssa Milano that ended with Milano giving the producers an ultimatum “Either she goes or I go!” ---
**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/91 "2009-07-29T20:34:59Z")
> [@The New and Improved Superman](#): > > Also worth mentioning is Robert Reed of “the Brady Bunch.” It’s well known that he was especially uncomfortable & uneasy during his scenes with Florence Henderson. This had more to do with Reed being a closeted gay man than his personal feelings for Henderson. But the constant snuggling & kissing a woman (even Henderson) got to be too much for him and he became increasingly difficult to work with. I had also always heard that he was sold the show as a serious look into a post-divorce family and the struggles of a blended family. Reed was a hot commodity after his stint on “The Defenders”. Reed was a classicly trained serious actor who, IIRC, was very unhappy when he found he was under contract to a campy show like “The Brady Bunch”. Despite that, he was a professional who never let his unhappiness interfere with his job - and the rest of the cast, particularly the children, loved him. He really was a second father to many of them. And he loved them enough to come back for reunion shows. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/92 "2009-07-29T21:58:03Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Honestly, I would be shocked if Tom Arnold was any sort of a dick, manipulative or otherwise. I admit I haven’t seen much of him beyond when he’s acting, but he’s always struck me as a decent guy. He certainly rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, self-admittedly. He just has one of those personalities it seems, and a lot of people took a dislike to him without actually knowing him at all. He tells stories of Hollywood execs who would badmouth him and steer work away from him without his knowledge who’d later end up apologizing to him for it once they realized he was actually a decent guy. Of course there was a stretch were he was into drugs (now into recovery) which probably didn’t do anything to help his status either. What I gathered is that he pretty much always says what he thinks. A certain handicap in Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/93 "2009-07-29T22:28:45Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > He certainly rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, self-admittedly. He just has one of those personalities it seems, and a lot of people took a dislike to him without actually knowing him at all. He tells stories of Hollywood execs who would badmouth him and steer work away from him without his knowledge who’d later end up apologizing to him for it once they realized he was actually a decent guy. Of course there was a stretch were he was into drugs (now into recovery) which probably didn’t do anything to help his status either. > > What I gathered is that he pretty much always says what he thinks. A certain handicap in Hollywood. Does anyone remember the time when Tom Arnold was on Conan, and it came up that Roseanne Barr had apparently commented (this was just after T. A. and Roseanne had divorced) publically that Tom Arnold has a teeny tiny little putz? Of course Conan kept bringing the comment up, and was sassing Arnold about it, when Tom shot back that “if you land a 747 in the Grand Canyon it would also look pretty small in comparison”. (implying that Roseanne’s vagina was a huge, gaping, canyon-like orifice) One of the most vulgar, shocking, disturbingly evocative (and all around fucking funniest) one liners in the history of late night talk shows… ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/94 "2009-07-29T23:16:00Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Honestly, I would be shocked if Tom Arnold was any sort of a dick, manipulative or otherwise. I admit I haven’t seen much of him beyond when he’s acting, but he’s always struck me as a decent guy. Bruce Campbell’s Autobiography If Chins Could Kill slams him (while painting E. Borgnine as a pro) on the set of McHale’s Navy. ---
**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/95 "2009-07-30T02:03:13Z")
> [@voguevixen](#): > > HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I thought the same about Jimmy Stewart. You thought kissing Jimmy Stewart was like kissing Hitler? When did you kiss Stewart? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/96 "2009-07-30T03:36:39Z")
> [@Reloy3](#): > > I had also always heard that he was sold the show as a serious look into a post-divorce family and the struggles of a blended family. Reed was a hot commodity after his stint on “The Defenders”. Reed was a classicly trained serious actor who, IIRC, was very unhappy when he found he was under contract to a campy show like “The Brady Bunch”. > > Despite that, he was a professional who never let his unhappiness interfere with his job - and the rest of the cast, particularly the children, loved him. He really was a second father to many of them. And he loved them enough to come back for reunion shows. I recall hearing Christopher (“Peter”) Knight and Barry (“Greg”) Williams saying that, years after the show was off the air, they learned that they were about the ONLY males on the “Brady Bunch” set that Robert Reed WASN’T propositioning constantly. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482/97 "2009-07-30T03:54:53Z")
Any fan of the American Popular Song would find himself attracted, in some way that he couldn’t explain, to Florence Henderson. I’m not gay, but Maureen McCormick was/is a total fox, so if one were open to other experiences she was there. They ugged up Eve Plumb, so if you were interested in a woman who was playing young, there you go. And I had a mild crush on Alice since her days on “Bob Cummings.” (Do with it as you will. She was nice and really loved Bob. What’s not to like?) The little ones? I will jump out on a limb and assume Robert Reed didn’t really hit on them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-actors-playing-best-friends-when-in-real-life-the-actors-hate-each-other/504482.md?page=4)