# Excellent Doonesbury (Sunday)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [June 17, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421 "2012-06-17T13:17:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/21 "2012-06-18T04:35:32Z")
I thought it was a very nice blending of the current story line and Father’s Day. I’m sure it works better for me for having known the context though.
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/22 "2012-06-21T02:32:30Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I loved Alex’s toast to the two “strangely familiar” bartenders (her mom and stepfather, natch).
say what?
I missed some staff meetings, apparently.
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### Author:  [@DZedNConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DZedNConfused)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/23 "2012-06-22T14:52:57Z")
I stopped reading Doonesbury back when Alex was tiny.(Nothing personal, money got tight so I couldn’t buy the books, then got out of the habit) Caught up to it recently through a Facebook link and teared up seeing the kids all grown, the folks who were my friends through my troubled 20 getting older and larger and presumably achyer-same as I. The wedding is awesome! Poor Mike, this baby is all grown and about to fly away!
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### Author:  [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/24 "2012-06-22T15:14:46Z")
Note: OP’s link is to whatever comic is the most current. I think he was commenting on this “installment”: [http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/6/17](http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/6/17)
(I got confused when OP’s comment didn’t make sense in the context of the most current installment.)
🙂 Hope this helps.
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### Author:  [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/25 "2012-06-22T18:31:33Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> . . . Menfolk? Because marrying off your daughter is a wondrous and powerful moment for a father.
Another dad moment ==\> [http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/6/21](http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/6/21)
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### Author:  [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/26 "2012-06-22T20:54:41Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> He wears a nez-pince.
Quibble: pince-nez. Except in panels 2 and 6, where you can clearly see that his glasses have temples. That are apparently sometimes invisible.
I want some of those.
As for the greatness of this strip, this is territory that has been mined very many times before, probably to better effect. However, I’m not a parent so my opinion may not count.
Roddy
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### Author:  [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/27 "2012-06-22T21:03:34Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Quibble: pince-nez.
I assumed that Mr. Mapcase was saying the glasses were inverted from the standard position, hence the inverted “nez-pince.”
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### Author:  [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/28 "2012-06-22T21:09:38Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> I assumed that Mr. Mapcase was saying the glasses were inverted from the standard position, hence the inverted “nez-pince.”
Thank you for getting it.
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### Author:  [@sevenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sevenwood)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/29 "2012-06-22T21:35:14Z")
As the father of two daughters I have to admit that the two times in my life when I turned from being a rock into being a blubbering mass of jello was the day each of them got married. The strange thing is that neither my wife nor my daughters seemed to mind a bit.
The first granddaughter is expected to make her worldwide appearance momentarily. I’m gonna guess that’s going to be the third time.
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### Author:  [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/30 "2012-06-22T23:00:46Z")
> [@Lochdale](#):
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> He’s still alive? Would anyone notice if he wasn’t? Count Curley Wee is more relevant than Doonesbury.
Does it still run in the Irish Independent? That was always a mystery to me. CCW I mean.
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/31 "2012-06-22T23:52:31Z")
Kim was the kid who’s first words were, “Big Mac!”, right?
Who adopted her, and how did Mike come to marry someone so much younger?
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### Author:  [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/32 "2012-06-23T00:01:26Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Kim was the kid who’s first words were, “Big Mac!”, right?
> Who adopted her, and how did Mike come to marry someone so much younger?
Her parents were in some of the strips back in the 70’s when she was adopted, but I don’t think they’ve been seen since.
She met Mike during one of Mike’s “summer day-dreams” that turned out to be real. IIRC, they were both working for Mike’s college lab partner Bernie
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/33 "2012-06-23T00:25:07Z")
Kim’s [bio.](http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/cast/member/24)
[The wedding reception.](http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1997/04/25)
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/34 "2012-06-23T05:46:37Z")
Love _Doonesbury_, and I’m very happy for Alex and Toggle, but seriously, is there a female main character who **doesn’t** get hitched by the age of 25?
Not counting Boopsie, who was in a committed LTR with B.D. from day one pretty much right up to their marriage, and Honey Huan, whose whole _raison d’etre_ was basically to moon around in a comical haze of unrequited love for Duke, I can’t think of a single woman among Trudeau’s [main characters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doonesbury_characters#Main_characters) who didn’t have her first wedding ring long before she even had to think about her first wrinkle.
Some of them ended up single again later, of course, like Joanie and later J.J., but it seems to be more or less unthinkable in _Doonesbury_-land for a major female character to make it into her thirties without a clearly defined marital and/or romantic history.
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### Author:  [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/35 "2012-06-25T14:22:37Z")
And now that the "I d-d-d-do"s have been said, we’re into reruns. Hasn’t this sequence, with Duke and Bttfckr or whatever his name is thinking they’re being shot at, already appeared twice?
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### Author:  [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/36 "2012-06-25T20:13:06Z")
This thread is really confusing when you come into a week late and read [this](http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/6/24) strip.
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### Author:  [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/37 "2012-06-25T20:17:09Z")
> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Love _Doonesbury_, and I’m very happy for Alex and Toggle, but seriously, is there a female main character who **doesn’t** get hitched by the age of 25?
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> Not counting Boopsie, who was in a committed LTR with B.D. from day one pretty much right up to their marriage, and Honey Huan, whose whole _raison d’etre_ was basically to moon around in a comical haze of unrequited love for Duke, I can’t think of a single woman among Trudeau’s [main characters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doonesbury_characters#Main_characters) who didn’t have her first wedding ring long before she even had to think about her first wrinkle.
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> Some of them ended up single again later, of course, like Joanie and later J.J., but it seems to be more or less unthinkable in _Doonesbury_-land for a major female character to make it into her thirties without a clearly defined marital and/or romantic history.
Doonesbury is light on female characters generally. Of the 7 mentioned as main characters on your link, Honey is unmarried and we don’t know whether Alice Schwartzman got married young. Joanie probably did, Kim, J.J. and Alex married in their 20s, and Boobsie was effectively married straight out of college.
If we add in other characters, the Widow Doonesbury probably married young, as did Lacey Davenport. Marsha Feinbloom is a long-term single, though, and so is, probably, Didi Robins. Mark’s mother and Zonker’s mother maybe married young, but we don’t know for sure. It’s not clear how old Ginny was when she married Clyde, but their were boyfriend/girlfriend for a long time earlier. Nichole was not married by 30, but we don’t know her current status. Drew and Cricket are young but unmarried. I don’t know why Leo’s mom isn’t on that list since she appears far more than many that do, but I believe she never married.
That’s not strong confirmation. Too few women to make a good case in the first place, and too many of them appear solely because of their marriages - J.J., Kim, and the various moms. Overall, though, it’s not at all out of line for what would be a normal cast of characters in America, where until recently the vast majority of women married by age 30.
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### Author:  [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/38 "2012-06-25T23:13:14Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I don’t know why Leo’s mom isn’t on that list since she appears far more than many that do, but I believe she never married.
I believe that is true, since she doesn’t know who Leo’s dad is (although she apparently settled on someone from Black Sabbath).
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### Author:  [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/40 "2018-03-26T12:15:22Z")
Spam reported.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excellent-doonesbury-sunday/625421/41 "2018-03-26T12:24:32Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> If we add in other characters, the Widow Doonesbury probably married young, as did Lacey Davenport.
Not so with Lacey - she and Dick ‘lived in sin,’ apparently for decades, before getting hitched.
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