# "Excited Delirium" - Real, or 'Police killed this guy?'

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 5, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excited-delirium-real-or-police-killed-this-guy/855110 "2020-06-05T18:04:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excited-delirium-real-or-police-killed-this-guy/855110/35 "2020-06-07T18:15:48Z")

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> And those that do not all are directly from the drug itself but a secondary issue either caused or made worse by the drug. In the case of excited delirium many times it is a cardiac issue coupled with a form of temporary insanity.

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> In layman’s terms their heart literally explodes.

Is there a cite for this from a medical authority? Because the ‘heart literally explodes’ is clearly nonsense and not something from any actual medical study as people have pointed out. Once part of your explanation is clearly myth, I’m not inclined to believe the rest of it, especially since you repeatedly fail to even acknowledge that restraint, physical force, and forced drugging that police do even occurs, much less explain how one determines that ‘ED’ is the cause of death rather than the restraint, physical force, and forced drugging.

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