# Excuse me, but what makes you think our trade show booth is your personal trash can?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 12, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973 "2017-03-12T02:15:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/121 "2017-03-16T19:25:59Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I assumed the op didn’t want to answer what the product was because it might “out” their real-life identity, not that they’d be fired.

The OP was actually the one who mentioned the possibility - or threat- of being fired as a result of identifying his industry.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/122 "2017-03-16T19:26:29Z")

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His product is so sophisticated, it only listens to Rifftrax recorded on _vinyl!_

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/123 "2017-03-16T20:00:40Z")

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Except given his clientele, it sounds more like wet farts on vinyl. (Well, it probably is wet farts on vinyl, but who am I to fuss about the type of folks who like to hang out with RH in his booth.)

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/124 "2017-03-16T23:06:51Z")

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To add some context: **russian heel** is the guy who started a [Pit thread complaining about Luddites](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=770207) who do old-timey things like write checks. Then, about halfway through the thread, he admitted that he deposits checks in person at the bank because [he doesn’t trust the check-depositing-thingamabob on his iPhone](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18725876&postcount=51). Oh, and he spewed invective at anyone who asked questions or tried to reason with him, just like in this thread.

He strikes me as a slightly more truculent version of **pkbites** (although, to be fair, I do not recall **pkbites** whining about bullying and crying for a moderator).

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/125 "2017-03-17T00:54:03Z")

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Oh, I remember this guy now!

He’s the moron who thought that snow plow drivers made a conscious decision to dump snow in front of driveways, rather than realizing that where the snow ends up is a simple act of physics. I loved that thread!

Not sure why it didn’t click until now, but yeah–this guy’s pretty darn special.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/126 "2017-03-17T02:16:31Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> To add some context: **russian heel** is the guy who started a [Pit thread complaining about Luddites](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=770207) who do old-timey things like write checks. Then, about halfway through the thread, he admitted that he deposits checks in person at the bank because [he doesn’t trust the check-depositing-thingamabob on his iPhone](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18725876&postcount=51). Oh, and he spewed invective at anyone who asked questions or tried to reason with him, just like in this thread.
> 
> He strikes me as a slightly more truculent version of **pkbites** (although, to be fair, I do not recall **pkbites** whining about bullying and crying for a moderator).

But this is his Pit Mona Lisa, IMO…

> **[Make my email work you LAZY FAT PIECE OF SHIT IT MOTHERFUCKERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=790362)**
>
> I did nothing to change any of the settings on my computer. I log into VPN client once a week, like you suggested, so the admin can recognize my computer. FINALLY, after a busy week, I have a hour or two to catch up on my emails. THEN WHY the FUCK...

> [@](#):
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> Make my email work you LAZY FAT PIECE OF SHIT IT MOTHERFUCKERS  
> I did nothing to change any of the settings on my computer.
> 
> I log into VPN client once a week, like you suggested, so the admin can recognize my computer.
> 
> FINALLY, after a busy week, I have a hour or two to catch up on my emails.
> 
> THEN WHY the FUCK CANT I LOG ONTO OUTLOOK???
> 
> I didn’t make any changes, YOU DID. I don’t have TIME to call one of you dummies, and go through step by step to get you to recognize my password. This happens 3 times a year. I bet ONLY TO ME.
> 
> You nerd motherfuckers, I’m tired of you waking up every morning, and picking me on purpose to mess up my security status. I have a JOB TO DO that doesn’t involve sitting in front of a computer, eating donuts all day.
> 
> Here’s is what is going to happen, so listen reeeeal close to what I have to say, because I am going to teach you a little LESSON.
> 
> I’m not calling you to fix my password issue YOU idiots fucked up. When a customer emails me, I’m going to email them back on my gmail account, copy my sales manager and your department, and let the customer know I cant help them because of YOUR incompetence. Oh and you know what else? I’m giving that customer YOUR cell phone numbers, so you can take a break from playing Farmville to handle their problems.
> 
> Don’t fuck with me, IT Fatso. You have 12 hours to fix YOUR problem.
> 
> DO YOUR fucking JOB.

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/127 "2017-03-17T02:52:12Z")

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> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> I am sure this thread has been an eye opener for the OP. :eek:
> 
> If nothing else, it is obvious the person doesn’t belong in sales.

I can outsell anyone on this board.

You must not be in sales if you were you would know salesmen are the most cynical bastards on the planet. They spend a lot of time bitching about and mocking the more dimwitted or asshole-ish customers. Sorry to ruin it if you think all salespeople like you because they act nice.  
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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/128 "2017-03-17T02:56:31Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> To add some context: **russian heel** is the guy who started a [Pit thread complaining about Luddites](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=770207) who do old-timey things like write checks. Then, about halfway through the thread, he admitted that he deposits checks in person at the bank because [he doesn’t trust the check-depositing-thingamabob on his iPhone](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18725876&postcount=51). Oh, and he spewed invective at anyone who asked questions or tried to reason with him, just like in this thread.

Here we go with the next phase of the typical abuse here: pointing out other threads by the OP.

Funny you mention context since you also totally missed the context of that OP.  
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/129 "2017-03-17T02:56:34Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> I can outsell anyone on this board.

Your mom’s a rich shopaholic, huh?

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/130 "2017-03-17T02:59:13Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Oh, I remember this guy now!
> 
> He’s the moron who thought that snow plow drivers made a conscious decision to dump snow in front of driveways, rather than realizing that where the snow ends up is a simple act of physics. I loved that thread!
> 
> Not sure why it didn’t click until now, but yeah–this guy’s pretty darn special.

“Your a moron!”

So says someone that cant operate a search engine or post a link. Think before you post.  
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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/131 "2017-03-17T03:07:00Z")

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[QUOTE=erysichthon]  
to be fair, I do not recall **pkbites** whining about bullying and crying for a moderator).  
[/QUOTE]

One of the joys of the BBQ Pit and frankly the other Boards is if a poster wishes, they can say things about other people they would never say to them to their face as a way to vent. If you have gangs of trolls going around exposing the identity of the posters, it will frighten them away from posting and the next thing you know its the end of the SDMB. Based on the quality of some of the responses here, God forbid THAT happen…

So to you and that idiot that claimed I was a whiner earlier. I wasn’t whining. Someone made a threat and I wanted to give them the opportunity to clarify they were not serious. So instead of making a weak attempt at mockery you should be on your knees thankine for being a champion for protecting your right to post and maintain your privacy here.

I think you owe me an apology.  
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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/132 "2017-03-17T03:07:44Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> I can outsell anyone on this board.

Really?

Ok, let’s take a look at your sales pitch:

> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> Ha… haha…HAHAHAHA!!! That’s rich! I’m going to make my fortune marketing my wares on a Message Board partially populated by half-wits with no money living in their parents basement.

Yep, that really makes me want to buy from you… :rolleyes:

> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> They spend a lot of time bitching about and mocking the more dimwitted or asshole-ish customers. Sorry to ruin it if you think all salespeople like you because they act nice.

The difference is that:

1. They do it other salespeople–you’re doing it to potential customers.

2. Your asshole-ish-ness goes way beyond that of the customers you’re complaining about. In fact, most of the people you bitch about or mock or whatever the fuck you want to call it aren’t assholes in the slightest.

3. The people you complain about aren’t even customers; they’re the average person who could well be a customer if you weren’t such a dick to them.

Salesmen are nice to their potential customers because they know that a lot of people will forego a product if their only alternative is to give their money to a raging dickhole like you.

For someone who claims they can outsell anyone on this board, you’re running awfully close to last place on my list of board members I’d give money to.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/133 "2017-03-17T03:09:02Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> But if you don’t want to say for fear of giving away your real identity, just say so and people will either drop it or look like asses. When you get cagey and talk about your ‘sophisticated’ product, then make angry, hyperbolic comparisons to revealing your SSN, you end up looking like a raging idiot. Also, vaguebooking about what happened while looking for sympathy also doesn’t work - people will wonder at the details (like, why have chairs if you’re not selling furniture) and it undermines sympathy for your rant.

Oh yeah, I agree with all that. And to be fair, when I said I was uneasy posting my location because I wanted to maintain my anonymity, a couple of posters came to my defense, pointing out that it really wasn’t relevant, since most everyone knew there were places like what I described.

I remain curious what the chairs were for. I can’t think of many sophisticated products that need chairs to show them off.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/134 "2017-03-17T03:10:39Z")

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Finally a fun Pit thread. Kudos to evryone involved.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/135 "2017-03-17T03:11:47Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> “Your a moron!”
> 
> So says someone that cant operate a search engine or post a link. Think before you post.  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t even understand what you mean by this.

Am I supposed to Google every person who posts a Pit thread to see what other threads of theirs that I read?

Are you even talking to me, as I never said “your a moron” (thus invalidating my connection to the rest of your comment, even though you replied to me)?

Did you mean to be ironic or are you actually stupid enough that you don’t understand the difference between “your” and “you’re”?

So many questions…

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/136 "2017-03-17T03:18:22Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Really?
> 
> Ok, let’s take a look at your sales pitch:
> 
> Yep, that really makes me want to buy from you… :rolleyes:
> 
> The difference is that:
> 
> 1. They do it other salespeople–you’re doing it to potential customers.
> 
> 2. Your asshole-ish-ness goes way beyond that of the customers you’re complaining about. In fact, most of the people you bitch about or mock or whatever the fuck you want to call it aren’t assholes in the slightest.
> 
> 3. The people you complain about aren’t even customers; they’re the average person who could well be a customer if you weren’t such a dick to them.
> 
> Salesmen are nice to their potential customers because they know that a lot of people will forego a product if their only alternative is to give their money to a raging dickhole like you.
> 
> For someone who claims they can outsell anyone on this board, you’re running awfully close to last place on my list of board members I’d give money to.

I wouldn’t take a penny from someone like you.  
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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/137 "2017-03-17T03:19:24Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> One of the joys of the BBQ Pit and frankly the other Boards is if a poster wishes, they can say things about other people they would never say to them to their face as a way to vent.
> 
> …
> 
> So to you and that idiot that claimed I was a whiner earlier. I wasn’t whining.
> 
> …
> 
> I think you owe me an apology.

Time again for my favorite game: **Intentional Irony or Moron?**

> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> I wouldn’t take a penny from someone like you.  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well that’s a new sales tactic if I’ve ever seen one.

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/138 "2017-03-17T03:19:28Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> I don’t even understand what you mean by this.
> 
> Am I supposed to Google every person who posts a Pit thread to see what other threads of theirs that I read?
> 
> Are you even talking to me, as I never said “your a moron” (thus invalidating my connection to the rest of your comment, even though you replied to me)?
> 
> Did you mean to be ironic or are you actually stupid enough that you don’t understand the difference between “your” and “you’re”?
> 
> So many questions…

You called me a moron in your post. Cant you read?

Oh the Grammar Police response. So old, so tired, so played. Zzzzzzzzzz  
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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/139 "2017-03-17T03:23:05Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> You called me a moron in your post. Cant you read?
> 
> Oh the Grammar Police response. So old, so tired, so played. Zzzzzzzzzz  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because you are one.

But when you say “So says…”, it generally requires the person in question to have said the words attributed to them.

If you said:

"‘Moron’

So says the person…"

that would make sense.  
But you didn’t.

Instead, you said the person you’re talking about is the one who says “your a moron”, which I didn’t–therefore, I can’t be the person you’re referring to.

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-but-what-makes-you-think-our-trade-show-booth-is-your-personal-trash-can/781973/140 "2017-03-17T03:23:36Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Time again for my favorite game: **Intentional Irony or Moron?**
> 
> Well that’s a new sales tactic if I’ve ever seen one.

It’s not a sales tactic. It’s called not wasting time with an asshole who is just going to give you a hard time and is not going to buy anyway.  
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