# Excuse me while I gloat, NZ beats Australia

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 12, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-while-i-gloat-nz-beats-australia/605884 "2011-12-12T05:53:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-while-i-gloat-nz-beats-australia/605884/41 "2011-12-29T11:34:39Z")

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> I was against DRS to start with but I think it has now developed to the stage where it needs to be used and can be without too much difficulty. The expense is a factor, and the same level of technology would ideally be available in all countries. I agree hotspot is suspect (at times) and I think that snickometre is useless (do they still have that?) If the technology gets 9 out of 10, or confirms nine out of ten that is great. As you say, the original decision (or umpires call) stands on the remainder.

See that’s the thing. I don’t know that the technology(hotspot/snicko/hawkeye) can get 9 out of 10, or 8 out of 10, or whatever, and neither does anybody outside of the companies that are selling these very expensive technologies. Before mandating their use in all cricket matches everywhere, the least that could be done is to have an independent, transparent evaluation carried out. In the meantime, DRS can stay but using only regular video replay, which would eliminate a majority of howlers, and that’s what people mostly care about anyway.

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> I think India is in a position similar to Australia but a few years later- the core of the team is going.

True. India’s always been weak in the bowling department, but to see that Tendulkar was the only batsman in the team to look comfortable out there was worrying.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-while-i-gloat-nz-beats-australia/605884/42 "2011-12-29T11:55:33Z")

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With the technology, I am not sure how they proof it. In that I mean that a camera angle can be fixed but how do they compensate for the wear on a pitch, the ball getting softer and less bounce etc. I imagine they could calibrate it using (for example) the previous 100 deliveries but that doesn’t help if a bowler bowls a superb delivery out of no where. However, I think it has improved to the stage where it gets far more right than wrong, but a “human” needs to eventually have the vote.

Tendulkar has always been class, but it surprises me that he is still going. I imagine that he has made quite a bit of money and given that he started playing at such a young age- combined with the pressure of expectations of his home crowd- I thought he may by now have given it away.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excuse-me-while-i-gloat-nz-beats-australia/605884/43 "2011-12-29T13:05:34Z")

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If they are going to disallow the DRS, they shouldn’t also allow the TV to show ultra slow motion replays with multiple angles, hotspot and snicko etc. Give the punters as exact a view as the umpires get. What’s your decision. Also it should be umpires call only on no balls, run outs and stumpings.

More generally, I think the DRS system should be to there to reduce/eliminate the howlers e.g. Ponting’s LBW “life” when on 15 in the second innings.

They shouldn’t overturn decisions like Hussey’s and Cowan’s dismissals in the 1st innings. Both were wrong but Hussey copped a absolute gem of a ball that he played awkwardly and looked gone. Cowan didn’t know if he’d hit his, and his batting partner (Haddin) thought he was out.

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