Executive Order signed to increase H-1B Visa Fee to $100,000

Only two words are needed to explain congress: getting primaried.

Yup. I worked at a company where this was deliberately done. Most jobs have a salary range, and they were certainly on the lower or, rather, bottom end of that “competitive” range. Visa holders also did not get raises or promotions, with a few exceptions, and generally were not retained (and often did not want to stay) after a few years when they were able to get onto a more permanent status. So, the turnaround in staffing was enormous each year as several left after a few years and bringing in new graduates, giving additional lie to the idea that there was some shortage in those skills if they were willing and able to let those folks go after they had more freedom to actually negotiate for better pay and conditions.

It was a fig leaf excuse to pretend they had skills that absolutely did not exist or could not be found in the local market. I understand some national pride is defending the practice, but, really, it was a very tiny fig leaf that a lot of people choose to believe covers a rather larger amount of skin.

More than that, they had the threat of dismissal to keep them in line. If they lost their job, they had a month to find a new one (that would also sponsor their visa) or leave the country. So, they were generally overworked as well. That “40 hour week” thing doesn’t really apply for most salaried positions. So, goodbye nights and weekends and so forth.

I don’t understand this question. It’s not about choosing deliberately to do something to its own citizens and more to do with helping companies who want cheaper labor. That’s not exactly an exclusively American trait. If that also happens to have consequences to the labor market, well, that’s the price of business, apparently.

I remember when they wanted to hire someone to run the Kingdome (or another Seattle sports arena). They wanted to hire a specific guy from Canada so the job description was written in a way where no American was qualified … only that guy.

I have no problems protecting American jobs for Americans; but there should be exceptions for very specific skill cases like school districts hiring Chinese teachers to teach Mandarin in American schools.

If you have the $1,000,000 Trump Gold Card, do you still have to pay the $100,000 fee?

When it comes to the H-1B, there are good faith arguments and bad faith arguments. The idea that you can just sponsor someone for an H-1B and pay them less then what you were paying Mike from Ohio just isn’t true. As you said, employers are required to file a labor condition application which is supposed to demonstrate the employer will pay the foreign worker a prevailing wage. The argument that adding foreign workers to the labor pool brings wages down for everyone is a bit more compelling I think. The prevailing wage is lower simply because there’s more competition.

H1B is abused in the sense that it is used to increase the talent pool in areas where there is not an absolute need to hire out of America (which is not what the statue says they are intended for), but it is not abused in the form of slave wages.

The companies and industries that hire H1B are in fields where the average salary is high, and the average H1B holder salary is is over $100,000 at the majority of companies that hire them.

Insert South Park “They took our jobs” meme.

Thank god the orange clown is protecting America from this dangerous influx of immigrants. I mean the ones who aren’t paying off TFG for their gold card.

For the record, it’s effectively impossible to steal jobs.

Like, America has 150m jobs, let’s say, so half of everyone can work. If China also only had 150m jobs then, with a population of 1.4b then only 1 in 10 people can work…?

Obviously, they have a lot more jobs available than the US does. Why? Because the number of people with business ideas, a willingness to lead, and willingness to work are all proportional to the total population.

Businesses are started among those who are sitting free. Existing businesses take out loans to grow, using the money to hire people. There isn’t some maximum case where you have a job headcount limit and once you have access to more people than that, suddenly, people are just sitting around with nothing to do. Whatever your access is to potential employees, that’s the limit of your employee headcount. If the US can swing an extra 20% of imported employees, then we can still have (and do have) record low unemployment, all while producing more, making more money, and competing above our level.

One can make a reasonable argument that the H-1B visa system need adjustment, One can even make a reasonable argument that the H-1B fee should be raised.
What doesn’t make sense is this being done via evacuative order. Also, I doubt there is a good argument for making the fee $100k

Brian

Brown people?

That seems to be the idea, not to stereotype MAGA but certainly the crew who’s handling immigration matters.

“Stop bringing in people to take our jobs.”

Just remember…whatever reason the MAGA crowd or Trumpists give for implementing ANY procedure, tax, or regulation – it is ALWAYS either a lie, fabricated, or exaggerated, and not a reasonable analysis. All pronouncements adhere to this lofty, but twisted, goal.

Trump doesn’t want ANYONE other than his ideal American (a white, Anglo-Saxon protestant, slavishly faithful to his views), i.e. non-recent-immigrant, to inhabit this country.

He would very likely take Scandinavians, too.

You do understand that the “prevailing wage” is established by the DHS (as part of the LCA process) and not the sponsoring company, right? Sponsoring companies have to pay AT LEAST that wage, which they do (and usually exceed).

Department of Labor, not Department of Homeland Security.

Working visas are equally the domain of DoL and DHS.

Exactly - they payed the “prevailing wage”. But there’s no single wage for a position. There’s a range. And the ‘prevailing wage’ “somehow” tended to be at the bottom end of that range, despite representing an ‘average’.

And then proceeded not to give them raises over the next several years, thus further suppressing that “prevailing wage” for everybody else.

And despite the apparent “lack of qualified personnel”, let them go and hire new graduates from college rather than give them raises (thus not raising the average ‘prevailing wage’) once those employees had more negotiating power and not under threat of losing their visa and having to leave the country. That alone gave lie to the idea that they couldn’t find candidates. They let several qualified employees go every year (either encouraging them to themselves leave or laying them off for “performance” reasons).

But both sides considered it a win-win. The companies because they could suppress wages and overwork several employees. And the visa holders because it gave them a path to permanent resident status. I question the ethics but it worked out for a lot of people.

Anyone that thought of coming to the US is probably having second thoughts.So this might not matter to them. I sure as shit will hurt the US though.

Trump’s seemingly deliberate efforts to hurt the United States is the reason I cannot dismiss with certainty that he isn’t an asset for Russia. Although I’ll concede it’s far more likely greed and power are the reasons Trump doesn’t mind taking a wrecking ball to the economy. He’d burn the country to the ground if he could find a way to profit from it.

As a malignant narcissist, Trump has no loyalty to anything other than his own ego and what boosts his ego. So I wouldn’t put it past him. If Russia or someone else uses bribes, flattery and blackmail, Trump would happily fuck America over.

The intelligence community has the acronym MICE. Money, Ideology, Coercion, Ego for how they convert people to work for them. Trump is very susceptible to Money, Coercion and Ego, but I don’t see Ideology being a major factor for him. Trump is a foreign intelligence agencies wet dream.

Having said that, from what I do know of the H1-B visa it does need reform to give more power to workers and avoid driving down wages

I hope this typo was intentional. It is very descriptive of the man who issued the executive order.

He is of course an asset to Russia. I’m suspicious of Melania too. The thing is, I think he is too dumb to know it. And of course he wouldn’t care anyway.

He’s doing this already. The grift is obvious. The racism and bigotry too. I think a lot of this is because he was never really accepted into the NY super rich social club. People have been laughing at him behind his back his entire life. I think he finally caught on to that.

Now it’s time for revenge.

All this man had to do is go sit on his yacht and drink Diet Coke and live a wonderful life. But no. He’s only happy when he’s hurting others. He must of had a really, really bad childhood.