# Exodus Exits

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exodus-exits/661465>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 20, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exodus-exits/661465 "2013-06-20T14:50:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exodus-exits/661465/1 "2013-06-20T14:50:37Z")

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Exodus International announces that it’s getting out of the whole “curing gays for Jesus” thing:

> **[After 37 Years of Trying to Change People’s Sexual Orientation, Group Is to...](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html?_r=0)**
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> The group Exodus International had been split by internal rifts and growing skepticism of its mission after its president renounced its core beliefs.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exodus-exits/661465/2 "2013-06-20T16:23:20Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Exodus International announces that it’s getting out of the whole “curing gays for Jesus” thing:
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> [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html?_r=0)

The head offered a real apology, though it looks like he still argues that gay sex is a sin.

Apologies don’t change the pain and suffering they caused, but it’s better than not apologizing at all.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exodus-exits/661465/3 "2013-06-21T14:38:39Z")

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An apology is good, but will there be any restitution? Ex-gay therapy has harmed or destroyed lives. Just saying you’re sorry doesn’t make it go away. Some sort of personal apology to the people who received the therapy would be good. Maybe offer shelter or support for people who are kicked out of their families for being gay.

The best thing to do would be to try to pressure other ex-gay groups to close or change their missions. Exodus was the largest ex-gay group, but there are plenty of smaller ones that are still around and still trying to convert gays to ex-gays. The people at the other organizations ignore the mainstream telling them that what they are doing isn’t helpful, but maybe they’ll listen to people who used to think like them.

Maybe they’ll be doing these things, and that would be great. Hearing an apology and that they’re stopping ex-gay therapy is good, but I’m not going to be too enthusiastic until I hear that they’re going to try to fix things that they messed up.