# Explain Firefly **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 16, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421 "2004-07-16T14:58:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Izzybella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e56c9b/32.png) [@Izzybella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Izzybella)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/21 "2004-07-16T19:00:40Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > _Firefly_ subverts the genre the way _Buffy_ did. **Izzy,** do you remember the scene in the very first episode of _Buffy_, where the two teenagers are wandering through the empty school late at night? You know that they are going to get attacked…it’s expected. How does Joss twist it? The girl is the vampire. That is the kind of twist that he throws into _Firefly_ everywhere. Character-driven, but the characters are never exactly what you expect. They have layers. > > It’s worth the money. Go buy the DVD’s already! 😃 I do remember that moment. The first of many, many very good moments. Okay, you have all at least convinced me to rent the series and check it out. And don’t worry **Silenus** if I like, I promise to go out and buy. Thank you everyone for delivering the Firefly goods. I appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Izzybella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e56c9b/32.png) [@Izzybella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Izzybella)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/22 "2004-07-16T19:03:06Z")
> [@petelin](#): > > PS: I hate Fox. > > PPS: and the WB. Yeah, the WB is not exactly on my happy list these days. (How’s that for hijackin’ my own thread??) ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/23 "2004-07-16T19:05:09Z")
> [@brane damaj](#): > > It’s true! They got the whole cast, too! > > [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/) > > What are the odds of the movie respawning the series, assuming it does well at the theater? That would be cool… Really, really good, either that or a series of movies. Warning: here there be spoilers. And fanfic. And slashfic. And pictures of the cast members in various states of undress. Work-safe until you start clicking on obviously iffy links. > **[FIREFLYFANS.NET](http://www.fireflyfans.net)** > > An online community of Browncoats for Joss Whedon's 'Firefly.' > **[Serenity](https://www.uphe.com/movies/serenity)** > > A passenger with a deadly secret. Six rebels on the run. An assassin in pursuit. When the renegade crew of Serenity agrees to hide a fugitive on their ship, they find themselves in an action-packed battle between the relentless military might of a... I’ll be in ma bunk. ---
**Author:** ![merrily](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@merrily](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merrily)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/24 "2004-07-16T21:22:50Z")
Okay, but I need to fall in love with someone to pull me into these things. Who will be Spike for me in Firefly? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/25 "2004-07-16T21:33:14Z")
> [@merrily](#): > > Who will be Spike for me in Firefly? I’d say either [Mal](http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/firefly/gifs/cast/mal.jpg) or [Simon](http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/firefly/gifs/cast/simon.jpg). There’s also [Wash](http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/firefly/gifs/cast/wash.jpg) but he’s married and _very_ devoted to [his wife](http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/firefly/gifs/cast/inara.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/26 "2004-07-16T21:35:06Z")
For me it’s [Jayne](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0303461/Ss/0303461/5869100_2_9.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Baldwin,%20Adam). ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/27 "2004-07-16T21:36:10Z")
Uh, **Jeff**. Wash isn’t married to Inara. He’s married to Zoe. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/28 "2004-07-16T21:36:42Z")
You people forgot to mention that Kaylee is cute. Shame on you all! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/29 "2004-07-16T21:45:19Z")
> [@DeadlyAccurate](#): > > Uh, **Jeff**. Wash isn’t married to Inara. He’s married to Zoe. Whoops, got confused. Thanks for the catch. ---
**Author:** ![jkusters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jkusters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkusters)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/30 "2004-07-16T21:45:27Z")
> [@DeadlyAccurate](#): > > For me it’s [Jayne](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0303461/Ss/0303461/5869100_2_9.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Baldwin,%20Adam). Ditto. Oh, yeah. JOhn 😃 ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/31 "2004-07-16T22:12:31Z")
> [@merrily](#): > > Okay, but I need to fall in love with someone to pull me into these things. Who will be Spike for me in Firefly? Jayne has his moments that makes him extremely endearing, but this devoted Spike-fan fell fast and hard for Captain Mal. He’s so gorram hot. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/32 "2004-07-16T22:58:42Z")
Wash is uber-cute. I really like the cut in a man’s forearm. He has a great cut, especially the opening credits when he’s piloting the ship and the going is rough. HOT! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/33 "2004-07-16T23:00:11Z")
My favourite cliché-destroying bit (and there are an awful lot of them): Mal is in violent fistfight with the man who had earlier tortured him severely. Zoe, Jayne and Wash come running in to rescue Mal. Zoe: [seeing Mal locked in struggle, gives instructions to Jayne and Wash] Stay back, this is someting the Captain has to do for himself. Mal: [desperately] No, it’s not! Zoe: Oh. [she, Jayne and Wash put about fifty bullets into torturer] Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/34 "2004-07-16T23:04:06Z")
Some of you ladies have a thing for Jayne when his IQ is smaller than his shoe size and he tried to sell the crew out? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/35 "2004-07-16T23:12:06Z")
It’s _Wagon Train_ to the stars. What? Does anyone else with the DVDs have, in “Objects in Space,” a glitch/freeze in the scene where Jubal is explaining himself on the bridge? Or am I the lucky one? Can’t watch the gorram ep without missing what’s a fairly crucial scene and I didn’t discover it until it was after the return period so the store wouldn’t exchange it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/36 "2004-07-16T23:23:00Z")
“They say that mercy is the quality of a great man. \ Guess I’m just pretty good. \ Well, I’m alright.” **Candid** , make that six compliments. **Otto** : No problems with mine. Have you tried contacting the manufaturer? They might be willing to replace the disc. At the very least, it’ll be cheaper than buying a whole new set. Bummer, too, because that’s the best episode of the series, and has one of the better DVD commentary tracks I’ve ever heard. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/37 "2004-07-16T23:23:09Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Does anyone else with the DVDs have, in “Objects in Space,” a glitch/freeze in the scene where Jubal is explaining himself on the bridge? I haven’t gotten that far yet (just finished disc 2) but I’ll let you know. ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/38 "2004-07-16T23:35:12Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Some of you ladies have a thing for Jayne when his IQ is smaller than his shoe size and he tried to sell the crew out? Shoot, that don’t matter. The man is Hot. Watch that scene in “Ariel” where he gets stitches on his chest if you need specific evidence. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/39 "2004-07-16T23:44:12Z")
Kaylee is beyond cute! Totally, completely, unbelieveably, heart-stoppingly cute! And the flashback as to how Mal met her was priceless. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421/40 "2004-07-16T23:49:46Z")
> [@gallows fodder](#): > > Shoot, that don’t matter. I watched the potential defenestration scene thinking, "This is _Firefly_. He’s really gonna do it. Please. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-firefly/255421.md?page=3)