# Explain the Green Bay Packers Ownership, and how it differs from other NFL teams

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 29, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711 "2009-07-29T22:03:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/21 "2009-07-30T18:12:46Z")

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> [@Flymaster](#):
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> Owners don’t get any benefit from merchandise sales by their individual team. That goes to profit sharing and is split by all teams. And, the Green Bay Packers, are, I assure you, worth more in merchandising than the Los Angeles Relocators. LA already has a football team for merchandising purposes.

Isn’t Los Angeles’ pro football team more properly called the University of Southern California Trojans? 😉

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/22 "2009-07-30T20:03:08Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> Nitpick here, but “Illegal” is not the proper word. It would not be against the law if another such entity became an NFL team owner. NFL rules are not laws, they are just the group’s own internal rules regarding membership. The NFL can and does govern itself and determine who or what can own an NFL team, so long as it doesn’t discriminate based on race, religion or national origin. If it discriminated based on those things, then that would be illegal under U.S. law.

Sorry, but bad nitpick. [Merriam-Webster Online on the meaning of “illegal.”](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal) Increasing usage is to apply it to any violation of rules, private or public.

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**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/23 "2009-07-30T21:51:32Z")

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Thanks all. Cool enough, I’ll stick with the Packers then.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/24 "2009-07-30T21:58:07Z")

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> [@Wakinyan](#):
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> I’ll stick with the Packers then.

I, a Packers owner, say “thanks!”

QtM, who got to meet Bart Starr the QB after a game, on the field.

And I’ll never forget [del]Brent[/del] Brett either! 🙂

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/25 "2009-07-30T22:47:18Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I, a Packers owner, say “thanks!”
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> QtM, who got to meet Bart Starr the QB after a game, on the field.
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> And I’ll never forget [del]Brent[/del] Brett either! 🙂

You, sir, are my hero!!! (and not just for your hull-slithering capabilities now! :D)

But did you greet Lynn Dickey on the field after the game? 😛

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**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/26 "2009-07-30T22:50:09Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I, a Packers owner, say “thanks!”

My pleasure. Might order some merchandise this year to help you along. 😉 Now do well over there!

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**Author:** ![bleach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bleach/32/3106_2.png) [@bleach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bleach)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/27 "2009-07-31T17:31:05Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> Isn’t Los Angeles’ pro football team more properly called the University of Southern California Trojans? 😉

**zamboniracer** , you’re right, USC and UCLA are LA’s version of pro football. You’d be hard-pressed not to find a football fan in LA who doesn’t root for one or the other. I think what **Flymaster** may have been referring to is that the Raiders still do a brisk merchandising business in LA.

Most of you probably know that plans are afoot to bring an NFL franchise back to LA. The new (unbuilt) stadium has a website already: [LA Football Stadium](http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/) (warning: Flash with sound). It’s going up in a relatively industrial area, somewhat far from downtown LA (where the Coliseum is and where USC plays).

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/28 "2009-08-01T16:26:35Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I, a Packers owner, say “thanks!”
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> QtM, who got to meet Bart Starr the QB after a game, on the field.
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> And I’ll never forget [del]Brent[/del] Brett either! 🙂

That is awesome.

I wish I could both meet Mr. Starr, and be a part owner of the Pack.

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/29 "2009-08-01T17:25:45Z")

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> [@bleach](#):
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> It’s going up in a relatively industrial area, somewhat far from downtown LA (where the Coliseum is and where USC plays).

I would change that to “might go up” and nobody should hold their breath waiting for financing (or a team to agree to uproot itself and move, or the creation of a new team)

There have been many hairbrained schemes to build stadiums over the years (anyone remember Al Davis and the gravel pit in Irwindale?)

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**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/30 "2009-08-01T17:43:57Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> There are 5.6 million people in the entire state of Wisconsin. Los Angeles County (for instance) itself has close to 10 million residents. The excess money made on marketing jerseys, beer coozies and foam fingers alone would make it more profitable in a more densely populated area.

…and yet LA has shown, again and again, that it is unable to support an NFL franchise…

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/31 "2009-08-02T03:08:01Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I, a Packers owner, say “thanks!”
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> QtM, who got to meet Bart Starr the QB after a game, on the field.
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> And I’ll never forget [del]Brent[/del] Brett either! 🙂

: worships **Qadgop** :

- **dogbutler** , born in Wisconsin, proud Packer fan since 1971

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/32 "2009-08-08T10:17:23Z")

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> [@lawoot](#):
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> …and yet LA has shown, again and again, that it is unable to support an NFL franchise…

They kept the Rams for 50 years, and Al Davis’ waverings probably aren’t a great indicator of any sort of reality. It’s all well and good to knowingly nod and say “LA is a college football/ basketball/ Dodgers town,” or "Who wants to go to a football game when you can go to the beach?, but do you really doubt that a long-awaited returned team wouldn’t be embraced by the city, particularly if it was a moved team that had a chance of being decent, instead of an expansion team?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-green-bay-packers-ownership-and-how-it-differs-from-other-nfl-teams/504711/33 "2009-08-08T13:50:00Z")

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> [@dogbutler](#):
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> - **dogbutler** , born in Wisconsin, proud Packer fan since 1971

Since 1971? :eek:

My friend, you had a long row to hoe there, before there was return to glory…

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