# Explain The "Playboy" show ("Girls Next Door") **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 7, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423 "2006-11-07T14:37:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/1 "2006-11-07T14:37:36Z")
I find myself watching this show, primarily because the whole premise is just so weird! here we have 80-year old Hugh Hefner, who lives in a Chicago-area mansion, with 5 nubile, sexy young women-who are like his daughters or mistresses. Anyway, the girls live pretty pampered lives-they appear to spend most of their time shopping, travelling (to places like las Vegas), or pleasuring mr. hefner. The thing i find pretty strange-one of the playmates has her MOTHER (ex-playmate0 proudly proclaiming why she thinks her daughter is privilidged to hang out with this 80-year old creep! Anyway, I have a few questions about the living arrangements; -is Hefner married to anyone? -do the "playmates’ get paid a salary? -how long do the girls stay as “playmates”? What happens when Hef finally takes the dirt nap? As I say, I find the show surreal-it is so strange! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![UntouchedTakeaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d78d45/32.png) [@UntouchedTakeaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UntouchedTakeaway)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/2 "2006-11-07T14:40:38Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] I find myself watching this show, primarily because the whole premise is just so weird! here we have 80-year old Hugh Hefner, who lives in a Chicago-area mansion, with 5 nubile, sexy young women-who are like his daughters or mistresses. Anyway, the girls live pretty pampered lives-they appear to spend most of their time shopping, travelling (to places like las Vegas), or pleasuring mr. hefner. The thing i find pretty strange-one of the playmates has her MOTHER (ex-playmate0 proudly proclaiming why she thinks her daughter is privilidged to hang out with this 80-year old creep! Anyway, I have a few questions about the living arrangements; -is Hefner married to anyone? -do the "playmates’ get paid a salary? -how long do the girls stay as “playmates”? What happens when Hef finally takes the dirt nap? As I say, I find the show surreal-it is so strange! :eek: [/QUOTE] I can only comment on #1 - Hefner was married in 1989 to Kimberly Conrad - coincidentally the 1989 Playmate of the Year. They have two sons. It is my understanding that they are separated but not divorced. I seem to recall she & the boys actually live next door to the LA Mansion (and I think that’s where the series takes place - not the Chicago one) VCNJ~ ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/3 "2006-11-07T15:36:20Z")
HH has seemed like a very thoughtful and reasonable man both in print and when I have seen him interviewed. I have always suspected he is simply playing a role as the living trademark for PEI. I like to think at night he goes up to his apartment and takes a nubile young playmate and explains to here the difference between term and whole-life insurance. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/4 "2006-11-07T15:50:26Z")
I heard one of his “girlfriends” on Howard Stern once and she strongly implied (without coming out and saying it) that Hef doesn’t actually have sex with them. It sounded like they’re basically there to help with the image and keep him company. As far as salary, I think the playmates get contracts and do receive salaries. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/5 "2006-11-07T15:54:22Z")
All I know is that it’s a chance to ogle Kendra Wilkinson every week… Between that show & that Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders show, man… ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/6 "2006-11-07T16:03:57Z")
I do believe the one girlfriend Holly does sleep with Hef, but I am not sure about the others. I am addicted to this show and love watching it, it is my guilty little pleasure 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Amazingrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Amazingrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazingrace)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/7 "2006-11-07T16:10:04Z")
I fear that I know way too much about this show… [QUOTE=Poysyn] I do believe the one girlfriend Holly does sleep with Hef, but I am not sure about the others. [/QUOTE] On one of the shows, Holly said something to the effect of “we do anything that any other boyfriend and girlfriend would do.” As far as what happens when Hefner takes “the dirt nap,” all I know is that he’s going to be buried next to Marylin Monroe. Holly was upset about this in a recent episode. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/8 "2006-11-07T16:14:32Z")
[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi] I like to think at night he goes up to his apartment and takes a nubile young playmate and explains to here the difference between term and whole-life insurance. [/QUOTE] Doubtful. I think they prefer to discuss Kant’s categorial imperative and their favorite existential philosophers. ---
**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/9 "2006-11-07T16:41:07Z")
One of the three, Bridget, is actually studying to get her masters I think. In one episode she had to leave a photoshoot early to go take an exam. ---
**Author:** ![MizGrand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@MizGrand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizGrand)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/10 "2006-11-07T17:04:57Z")
Kendra’s a bitch! _runs away really fast_ ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/11 "2006-11-07T18:09:38Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] I find myself watching this show, primarily because the whole premise is just so weird! here we have 80-year old Hugh Hefner, who lives in a Chicago-area mansion [/quote] Hefner moved to L.A. fulltime in 1974, so you’re three decades out of date. Yeah, I had stopped reading Playboy by then too. It’s a lot more fun when you’re in college, isn’t it? > [@](#): > > with 5 nubile, sexy young women-who are like his daughters or mistresses. Three women, down from a high of seven or eight a few years ago. After his breakup with Kimberly Conrad - who still lives in the house next door! - Hef went wild. Even for him. > [@](#): > > Anyway, the girls live pretty pampered lives-they appear to spend most of their time shopping, travelling (to places like las Vegas), or pleasuring mr. hefner. To answer the sex question, one of the former live-ins wrote an article for the Canadian newsmagazine MacLean’s recently. She described a rather creepy set-up in which a number of the girls - more than just the three girlfriends - gather on Hef’s bed each night. They take turns sitting on Hef, cowgirl style, for a couple minutes at a time. Then alpha girlfriend Holly exhibits her dominance by blowing Hef. He thens masturbates onto her. Girls who don’t want to partake in the sex wear panties. There is little girl-on-girl action except for occasional kissing and fondling. The article writer claims she was a panty-wearer after the first time, and stayed only as long as Hef was paying her way through law school. Who’s using whom, you might well ask. > [@](#): > > The thing i find pretty strange-one of the playmates has her MOTHER (ex-playmate0 proudly proclaiming why she thinks her daughter is privilidged to hang out with this 80-year old creep! You sound like you’ve never encountered American culture before. 🙂 > [@](#): > > Anyway, I have a few questions about the living arrangements; > -is Hefner married to anyone? No, separated, no plans for divorce. > [@](#): > > -do the "playmates’ get paid a salary? They get an allowance that they constantly complain is too small. While they may be “playmates,” BTW, none of them are Playmates. AFAIK, none of them had appeared in the magazine before they did a group shoot as publicity for the show. I gather that they may have applied to be playmates and stuck around for one reason or another as part of the roving pack of pretty girls who stay on the mansion grounds. They get free room and board, some clothing money, and Hef is paying for several to go through school. Bridget, the smart one, whines that everybody takes the girls for idiots, which might work better as a complaint if it weren’t for Kendra, who appears to have the same wattage as a fluorescent bulb. > [@](#): > > -how long do the girls stay as “playmates”? They rotate, lasting a couple of years until they find a better offer. > [@](#): > > What happens when Hef finally takes the dirt nap? One hopes that the show ends. Although the rigor mortis phase could prove interesting. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/12 "2006-11-07T18:25:11Z")
[QUOTE=Amazingrace] As far as what happens when Hefner takes “the dirt nap,” all I know is that he’s going to be buried next to Marylin Monroe. Holly was upset about this in a recent episode. [/QUOTE] I think he has the mausoleum space next to Marilyn’s so it would be a marble nap. No, they aren’t Playmates, and in fact it’s Bridget’s dream to be made a Playmate. I had assumed he asked them to be his girlfriends after seeing them at a shoot or something, but in fact they got photo spreads only as his girlfriends. It was sweet when he said how the last few years have been the happiest he’s had, and mostly because of Holly. I love to hate Kendra; what a stupid stupid person. And any physical attraction she might have had goes out the window when she talks. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/13 "2006-11-07T18:30:15Z")
Wall-to-wall T&A. The preposterous idea that you could have it whenever you want, from almost cradle to grave. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/14 "2006-11-07T19:17:11Z")
Chapter twelve (which starts on page 104) of the book [Hefnerland](http://www.toppairmagazine.com/jillann_folder/Hefnerland.pdf) describes in detail what goes on in Hef’s bedroom. It was written by former Playboy model Jill Ann Spaulding. If what she says is true, it’s pretty disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/15 "2006-11-07T19:28:58Z")
Yeah, disgusting is right! Has Hef no shame? No sense of decency?? So, uh…by _disgusting_, what exactly are we talking about here? Don’t be ashamed to spell out every filthy detail…all in the name of fighting ignroance, you know. I’ve got a strong stomach, I can take it. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/16 "2006-11-07T19:44:08Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Yeah, disgusting is right! Has Hef no shame? No sense of decency?? So, uh…by _disgusting_, what exactly are we talking about here? Don’t be ashamed to spell out every filthy detail…all in the name of fighting ignroance, you know. I’ve got a strong stomach, I can take it. [/QUOTE] Just a small part of it. The main girlfriend, Holly, “prepares” Hef in between sex with each girl. Hef lets each girl ride him for a couple of minutes then Holly wipes him with a towel and applies fresh baby oil. No condoms are used. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/17 "2006-11-07T19:48:30Z")
Wow. That’s disapp…uhhhI mean Horrible! Just Horrible! Why, unprotected…the outrage! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Octagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@The\_Octagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Octagon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/18 "2006-11-07T19:52:27Z")
Why would a fit girl in her 20s want to have sex (or whatever you want to call it) with an 80 year old man? ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/19 "2006-11-07T20:00:05Z")
Yes kendra is a bitch because she is nineteen and has to wait in line to fuck an old man. No wonder the poor thing has to rely on vibrators to get happy at hefs! Im sure Hef’s girlfriends are kept on a short leash when it comes to dating other men. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423/20 "2006-11-07T20:09:42Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] Wow. That’s disapp…uhhhI mean Horrible! Just Horrible! Why, unprotected…the outrage! [/QUOTE] The worst part may be the baby oil. Hef of all people should know what Astroglide is. 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-the-playboy-show-girls-next-door/379423.md?page=2)