# Explain to me the current Spider-man brouhaha

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 8, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785 "2008-01-08T22:37:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/21 "2008-01-09T13:48:58Z")

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I used to buy everything with even a Spider-Man cameo, including [NFL Superpro #1](http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/nfl_superpro/001.html). I stopped buying comics more or less completely just before the Clone Saga. I was just so sick of Venom-spawn, I didn’t even make it to the really infuriating storyline. Unfortunately, this means that I can’t stop buying the comic in anger over this current horseshit.

Somebody help me out here, because I’ve never heard of Marvel screwing with their own continuity like this. This is the kind of crap DC is famous for. When was the last time Marvel tried to take back a storyline that fans have followed for decades?

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/22 "2008-01-09T14:25:50Z")

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Serious comic book fans are like battered wives who keep going back. 😛

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/23 "2008-01-09T14:42:39Z")

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The _really_ stupid thing about this is that there are already two versions of Spidey being published right now where Peter Parker is not married: _Ultimate Spider-Man_ and _Marvel Tales Spider-Man_. BTW, not only did they give up their marriage, but they also gave up the child Mephisto revealed they would have had.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/24 "2008-01-09T14:52:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Angel]  
Somebody help me out here, because I’ve never heard of Marvel screwing with their own continuity like this. This is the kind of crap DC is famous for. When was the last time Marvel tried to take back a storyline that fans have followed for decades?  
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I’d say the clone crap, when it turned out that Spider-Man wasn’t _really_ Spider-Man, and everything since about ASM 149 never mattered.

Thank god that’s over, and now we have an ongoing story line… Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/25 "2008-01-09T14:52:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Czarcasm]  
The _really_ stupid thing about this is that there are already two versions of Spidey being published right now where Peter Parker is not married: _Ultimate Spider-Man_ and _Marvel Tales Spider-Man_. BTW, not only did they give up their marriage, but they also gave up the child Mephisto revealed they would have had.  
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Three. Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/26 "2008-01-09T15:27:34Z")

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So where does Spiderpig fit into all this? 😕

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/27 "2008-01-09T16:14:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons]  
So where does Spiderpig fit into all this? 😕  
[/QUOTE]

Well he does whatever a Spiderpig does.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/28 "2008-01-09T16:24:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Harborwolf]  
The worst part? Completely unnecessary to bring in magic. You want to break up the marriage? Make them get a divorce. Peter and family have gone through quite a bit of stress recently. You have a few issues dealing with May’s death (the public loves those) and a few more issues dealing with the end of his marriage. Then you move on. No magic needed. Provides a nice chance for character growth, and you don’t need to “retcon” anything to bring them back together.  
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Ah, but Quesada has said in interviews that a divorced or widowed Spidey is even worse than a married one.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/29 "2008-01-09T16:34:21Z")

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Why don’t they just have some villain throw Mary Jane off a bridge and be done with it?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/30 "2008-01-09T17:25:12Z")

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Wow, it’s been ages since I had subscriptions to _ASM/PPtSSM/WoSM_ (don’t know what they’re called now), but I always had a soft spot for the guy and this all sounds a bit ridiculous (though I’m also unfamiliar with the clone thing and the civil war hoozit so I don’t have much of a frame of reference). And Aunt May’s still alive? :eek: 😕 :eek: Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/31 "2008-01-09T17:38:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons]  
So where does Spiderpig fit into all this? 😕  
[/QUOTE]  
You mean Spider-Ham?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/32 "2008-01-09T17:46:11Z")

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And what about the "Mazing Man-Spider? Virtual No-Prize to the first person who gets _that_ reference. ;D

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/33 "2008-01-09T17:48:27Z")

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And what about the 'Mazing Man-Spider? Virtual No-Prize to the first person who gets _that_ reference. 😉

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/34 "2008-01-09T17:53:09Z")

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[QUOTE=JThunder]  
You mean Spider-Ham?  
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I too was disappointed in The Simpsons Movie when the Spider-Pig joke never turned out to be a reference to Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/35 "2008-01-09T17:56:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Just Some Guy]  
Let me see if I can do this simply enough.

In short, after Peter Parker publicly unmasked himself he made himself and his family a target. Aunt May got shot by a would be assassin and is on death’s door (yet again).  
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Wait. Aunt May is alive again? The issue featuring her death was one of the greatest Spider-Man Issue of all time, and they reconned it?

No wonder I don’t read comics any more.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/36 "2008-01-09T18:30:16Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
Wow, it’s been ages since I had subscriptions to _ASM/PPtSSM/WoSM_ (don’t know what they’re called now)  
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Currently, there’s only one (main continuity) Spider-Man title, Amazing Spider-Man, which comes out three times a month.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/37 "2008-01-09T18:40:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Tengu]  
Currently, there’s only one (main continuity) Spider-Man title, Amazing Spider-Man, which comes out three times a month.  
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I wonder what a year’s subscription to _that_ costs?

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/38 "2008-01-09T18:42:52Z")

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[QUOTE=cckerberos]  
Ah, but Quesada has said in interviews that a divorced or widowed Spidey is even worse than a married one.  
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One wonders about his judgement since character change and growth is less appealing than a big magic reset button.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/39 "2008-01-09T19:12:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Menocchio]  
Three. Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane.  
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[Not for long.](http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20080107.html)

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explain-to-me-the-current-spider-man-brouhaha/432785/40 "2008-01-09T19:13:36Z")

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Isn’t this the second or third time Quesada has shafted Spiderman? What is this guy smokin’, anyway? And why do the Marvel chiefs keep him? I know they’re none too bright, but you’d think they’d get the obvious.

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