# Explicitly saying the Jews are vermin earns a note and not a Warning. WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 13, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028 "2014-04-13T18:28:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/1 "2014-04-13T18:28:42Z")
IMHO thread about people’s most hated type of vermin. [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17282745) Response from **Budget Player Cadet** (post #7) > [@](#): > > Jews. > /EdgierThanBismuth > > Does mold count? Because boy do I have problems with that. For some reason, we don’t get a lot of, well, anything else in the Munich suburbs. Here is **Ellen Cherry** ’s anemic note: > [@](#): > > Antisemitism is not tolerated here, even if this is a really bad joke. Do not do this again. How does this not earn an actual Warning, in particular when the poster has been noted, if not warned, a few other times in the past? Is it because it was a “joke” so that makes it not so bad? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/2 "2014-04-13T18:36:36Z")
BTW, **BPC** was suspended for a month around a year and a half ago after repeated warnings. > **[Budget Player Cadet suspended for a month.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=663756)** > > Budget Player Cadet has been suspended for a month after repeated personal insults and five warnings in a little under five weeks. Latest warning is here. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/3 "2014-04-13T18:43:05Z")
I agree. What an anemic response. People get stronger notes for threadshitting in a movie thread. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/4 "2014-04-13T18:56:50Z")
He’s made it pretty clear it’s a joke. I don’t think it’s a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/5 "2014-04-13T19:08:00Z")
It’s not clear it’s a joke to me as I have no idea what edgier than bismuth means. I think it’s in awful taste and should garner a warning. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/6 "2014-04-13T19:15:42Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > It’s not clear it’s a joke to me as I have no idea what edgier than bismuth means. I think it’s in awful taste and should garner a warning. I don’t know what it means either, but it’s obvious from context that it’s signifying edgy humour. I know jokes and satire can sometimes be difficult to parse on the internet, but the guy put in a _tag_ for crying out loud. Jeez. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/7 "2014-04-13T19:36:14Z")
“jokes” like that are, IMHO, tantamount to trolling for attention - as a) the poster knows thats not the real topic of the thread b) the poster knows its going to cause a shitstorm of shit ---
**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/8 "2014-04-13T19:51:40Z")
You know who else were compared to vermin? The Tutsi in Rwanda just before the genocide. > [@](#): > > … published and aired hostile propaganda that dehumanised and demonised the Tutsi. The media blamed the Tutsi for precisely what the Hutu Genocidaires were doing, which was planning and perpetrating the Genocide. As part of the dehumanisation process, the media for many years compared the Tutsi to insects and animals like hyenas, and in doing so managed to convince the Hutu to think of the former as less human. It’s not funny and it is racist and should be treated seriously. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/9 "2014-04-13T19:52:43Z")
> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#): > > You know who else were compared to vermin? The Tutsi in Rwanda just before the genocide. > > It’s not funny and it is racist and should be treated seriously. Absolutely. Considering it was just the memorial for the Rwandian genocide, it’s also in very poor taste. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/10 "2014-04-13T19:56:58Z")
I see that BPC is on the ban-train. I greet the OP with a shrug as I don’t care too much whether it happens sooner or later. Borderline calls and exceptions notwithstanding, the overall process works ok, IMHO. ETA: “Munich suburbs”. Huh. My understanding is that such expressions are illegal in Germany. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/11 "2014-04-13T19:59:18Z")
> [@simster](#): > > “jokes” like that are, IMHO, tantamount to trolling for attention - as > > a) the poster knows thats not the real topic of the thread > b) the poster knows its going to cause a shitstorm of shit Moreover, being a jerk and making a joke are not mutually exclusive illocutionary acts. In a similar way, if I walk up to you and step on your toe, it’s not excusable just because I say “hah hah” while I do it–whether the laugh is sincere or not. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/12 "2014-04-13T20:01:27Z")
It was a bad joke. It got a slapdown. End of story. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/13 "2014-04-13T20:11:23Z")
I researched the “edgier than Bismuth” comment, then reported the post. I tend to get close to the line, but the comment was shit. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/14 "2014-04-13T21:26:21Z")
> [@simster](#): > > “jokes” like that are, IMHO, tantamount to trolling for attention - as > > a) the poster knows thats not the real topic of the thread > b) the poster knows its going to cause a shitstorm of shit I recall PSXer got one of his warnings (ahead of a suspension) for making literally almost the exact same joke in an IMHO thread. [Yes, here it is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16846401&postcount=11) It’s not even as disgusting as BPC’s “joke,” just a bad stereotype joke (blaming the Jews for everything). I would think equating them with vermin would be a much worst offense and certainly deserving a warning (or worse) if PSXer got one for a more mild use of the same joke. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/15 "2014-04-13T21:47:04Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I recall PSXer got one of his warnings (ahead of a suspension) for making literally almost the exact same joke in an IMHO thread. There certainly is a great deal of inconsistency in those two mod actions. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/16 "2014-04-13T22:01:27Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > It’s not clear it’s a joke to me as I have no idea what edgier than bismuth means. I think it’s in awful taste and should garner a warning. It’s apparently a slang term on some message boards. It means you’re making a post that you know will offend some readers. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/17 "2014-04-13T22:12:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s apparently a slang term on some message boards. It means you’re making a post that you know will offend some readers. In other words - trolling - and admitting as such. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/18 "2014-04-13T22:30:35Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I recall PSXer got one of his warnings (ahead of a suspension) for making literally almost the exact same joke in an IMHO thread. > > [Yes, here it is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16846401&postcount=11) > > It’s not even as disgusting as BPC’s “joke,” just a bad stereotype joke (blaming the Jews for everything). I would think equating them with vermin would be a much worst offense and certainly deserving a warning (or worse) if PSXer got one for a more mild use of the same joke. Thank God he didn’t call them ‘Close Minded’ ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/19 "2014-04-13T22:30:48Z")
Probably Republican jews would have gotten the warning. I’ve only received one warning and it was a joke about Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/20 "2014-04-13T23:07:48Z")
> [@chacoguy](#): > > Thank God he didn’t call them ‘Close Minded’ You win the thread. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028.md?page=2)