# Explination of Witches and Broomsticks (And Devil Horns)

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 26, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explination-of-witches-and-broomsticks-and-devil-horns/177509 "2003-05-26T01:46:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explination-of-witches-and-broomsticks-and-devil-horns/177509/61 "2003-05-28T17:59:00Z")

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Isis’s son is Horus the Younger. The kid’s _daddy_ is Osiris.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explination-of-witches-and-broomsticks-and-devil-horns/177509/62 "2003-05-28T19:33:16Z")

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:smack:  
I really shouldn’t post from work.  
You’re totally right. It’s Isis and baby Horus.

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explination-of-witches-and-broomsticks-and-devil-horns/177509/63 "2003-05-29T18:26:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lilairen \*  
> \*\*I’ve found his rant; it can be located here:  
> [http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=agefd1%24asj%241%40news1.Radix.Net&output=gplain](http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=agefd1%24asj%241%40news1.Radix.Net&output=gplain)
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> (I don’t know how to make URL tags work, so please pardon the ugly-huge gooja URL.)
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> Briefly, to summarise the rant: not only did she (as **Freyr** noted) only deal with groups with a particular agenda, she did not speak to other people involved in the schism, who were prominent leaders within that community, when revising the work for later editions. She also, in his view, completely missed discussing _any_ of the significant foundations of Asatruar practice. I get the impression that he thinks that she was unduly influenced in beliefs about what paganism “means” by association with its more popular branches, such as Wicca, and thus overemphasised those things that were most similar to Wiccan practice. \*\*

As I said, hindsight is 20/20. Going over what Adler wrote and speaking with other Asaturar folk (who know the history of the movement well) I agree, for whatever reason, Adler didn’t give this the coverage it deserved. But knowing how things work in the field as opposed to when you’re writing your notes for publication, you often reaslize you should have focused on something differently. Thus are later editions born. 😃 Since the last edition of _Drawing_ is nearly 20 years old, it might be time for another jaunt into the field, either by Adler or someone else.

While your friend does raise valid points, I also can’t help but feel his position is more “Adler didn’t write about Asatru the way I _would_ have” rather than, Adler deliberately got it wrong. YMMV.

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