# Exploding Galaxy Note 7 Totals Jeep Grand Cherokee **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 8, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355 "2016-09-08T18:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/1 "2016-09-08T18:29:18Z")
> [@](#): > > An exploding Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphone has reportedly totaled the Jeep Grand Cherokee of a family in St. Petersburg, just days after Samsung issued a worldwide recall for its hottest new smartphone… > > Samsung claims just 24 in every 1 million units is at risk of exploding, but issued a total global recall all the same…Total costs for Samsung for the recall are likely to cost in the vicinity of $1 billion. > **[Exploding Galaxy Note 7 wipes out family's Jeep](https://www.cultofmac.com/news/exploding-galaxy-note-7-wipes-family-jeep)** > > An exploding Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphone has reportedly totaled the Jeep Grand Cherokee of a family in St. Petersburg, just days after Samsung issued If Samsung had a removable battery instead of the non-removable battery in this phone, all Samsung would have had to do is to mail out new batteries–a much cheaper option. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/2 "2016-09-08T21:18:04Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > If Samsung had a removable battery instead of the non-removable battery in this phone, all Samsung would have had to do is to mail out new batteries–a much cheaper option. But then the phone would be 0.5mm thicker, something Apple has decreed a high crime, misdemeanor and insult to humanity. Poor Sammy has no choice. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/3 "2016-09-09T01:54:59Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > But then the phone would be 0.5mm thicker, something Apple has decreed a high crime, misdemeanor and insult to humanity. Poor Sammy has no choice. “What if they (Samsung/Apple) introduced a new smartphone and nobody came?” ---
**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/4 "2016-09-09T02:53:35Z")
I think the non removable battery has more to do with being waterproof. Early generations of the note and galaxy had removable batteries. ---
**Author:** ![bb49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b38774/32.png) [@bb49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bb49)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/5 "2016-09-09T05:04:06Z")
If it were something other than a Jeep, I would be really upset, but… ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/6 "2016-09-09T18:35:09Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > But then the phone would be 0.5mm thicker, something Apple has decreed a high crime, misdemeanor and insult to humanity. Poor Sammy has no choice. It’s convenient to carry the thinnest phone possible when I’m riding my Hoverboard. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/7 "2016-12-05T15:56:56Z")
> [@](#): > > engineers with manufacturing technology company Instrumental stripped the phone down to see what was going on inside (and yes, they had a fire extinguisher nearby, just in case). They discovered the battery was so tightly packed inside the Galaxy Note 7’s body that any pressure from battery expansion, or stress on the body itself, may squeeze together layers inside the battery that are never supposed to touch — with explosive results. > > Batteries swell up under normal use, and we place stress on a phone’s body by putting it our pocket and sitting down, or if it’s dropped. Tolerances for battery expansion are built into a smartphone during design, and Instrumental notes Samsung used, “a super-aggressive manufacturing process to maximize capacity.” In other words, the Galaxy Note 7 was designed to be as thin and sleek as possible, while containing the maximum battery capacity for long use, thereby better competing against rival devices such as the iPhone 7 Plus and improving on previous Note models. > > The report speculates that any pressure placed on the battery in its confined space may have squeezed together positive and negative layers inside the cell itself, which were thinner than usual in the Note 7’s battery already, causing them to touch, heat up, and eventually in some cases, catch fire. Delving deeper into the design, the engineers say the space above a battery inside a device needs a “ceiling” that equates to approximately 10 percent of the overall thickness. The Galaxy Note 7 should have had a 0.5mm ceiling; it had none. > **[Report: Dangerous Galaxy Note 7 Broke Engineering Rules | Digital Trends](https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/instrumental-galaxy-note-7-teardown-news/)** > > A teardown of the Galaxy Note 7 may have revealed why the device was a fire-hazard, and eventually canceled. It's shown the battery didn't have enough space to expand naturally, potentially causing internal layers to touch, and eventually catch fire. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/8 "2016-12-05T16:05:55Z")
sounds like the most plausible explanation; some were speculating on that early on. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/9 "2016-12-06T00:51:03Z")
> [@bb49](#): > > If it were something other than a Jeep, I would be really upset, but… Yeah, that Jeep was probably just moments away for catastrophe on its own anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/10 "2016-12-06T01:47:56Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Yeah, that Jeep was probably just moments away for catastrophe on its own anyway. Transmission probably. With a Jeep it is always the transmission. Could be something else wasting your money and time. While waiting for the transmission to go out. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/11 "2016-12-08T07:01:46Z")
Have I told you about my Commando? The one I haven’t driven in a few months? Because the transmission went out. Oh, I guess I did… or not. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/12 "2017-01-23T03:03:02Z")
Samsung has given the results of its investion: > [@](#): > > The short answer is that the Note 7’s battery was too large for the casing of the phone, which caused some to overheat, according to Samsung’s report. Samsung then switched to a battery a different supplier but said that that battery had a defect that caused it to overheat. > **[Here's Samsung's infographic that explains why the Note 7 phones exploded](https://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-infographic-explains-why-galaxy-note-7-phones-exploded-2017-1?r=AU&IR=T)** > > Some 700 Samsung researchers tested more than 200,000 devices and more than 30,000 batteries to figure out the the problem with the Galaxy Note 7. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exploding-galaxy-note-7-totals-jeep-grand-cherokee/765355/13 "2017-01-23T04:40:53Z")
Manufacturer Igor: “Abnormal Batteries. Yes that’s it, Abnormal!” Dr. Samsunik Frankenstein: "Are you saying that you put an abnormal battery in a Note 7, With no space, No insulation and longer than usual wires in the GALAXY!!!??? [Strangles the Manufacturer]