# Explosions at Boston Marathon

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 15, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781 "2013-04-15T19:16:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/921 "2013-04-19T18:16:50Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Wow! Yesterday he was nothing, today he’s already had two on screen roles.

Yeah, but he had to stoop to doing nude roles

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/922 "2013-04-19T18:20:36Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I haven’t got a straight story on the face down guy. He was definitely alive. The naked guy was some fool who didn’t follow police instructions, and IMHO got what he deserved.
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> I’m getting a picture here that the older brother, now dead, was some kind of psychopath, and his younger brother may have been weak-willed pawn.\*\* Not totally weak-willed though, he ran over his older brother to get away\*\*.

If that turns out to be a correct report, I think that’s totally awesome.

I hope he holes up somewhere, and then gives himself up without hurting himself or anyone else.

Have they had any interviews with either of sisters? And have they confirmed that the mother left Massachusetts for Russia (?) recently?

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**Author:** ![baileygrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@baileygrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/baileygrrrl)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/923 "2013-04-19T18:26:23Z")

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A sister of the suspects, Alina Tsarnaev, has released a statement expressing her disbelief, just obtained by WBZ-Boston, the local CBS station:

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They were great people. I never would have expected it. They are smart – I don't now what's gotten into them.
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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/924 "2013-04-19T18:26:40Z")

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> [@Sateryn76](#):
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> If that turns out to be a correct report, I think that’s totally awesome.
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> I hope he holes up somewhere, and then gives himself up without hurting himself or anyone else.
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> Have they had any interviews with either of sisters? And have they confirmed that the mother left Massachusetts for Russia (?) recently?

They interviewed some Russian woman with an accent…but I never saw who exactly she was…but she was saying they were innocent and law enforcement doesn’t have evidence to link them.  
I just saw a pic on twitter (that I won’t link to here) claiming it is suspect 1 post mortem (on a slab)

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/925 "2013-04-19T18:30:57Z")

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They have interviewed their uncle. I didn’t catch much of it, but he didn’t seem sympathetic to his nephews.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/926 "2013-04-19T18:31:55Z")

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> [@baileygrrrl](#):
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> A sister of the suspects, Alina Tsarnaev, has released a statement expressing her disbelief, just obtained by WBZ-Boston, the local CBS station:
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> ```
> They were great people. I never would have expected it. They are smart – I don't now what's gotten into them.
> 
> ```

I don’t doubt it for a second. It seems very weird to me that there isn’t like obvious clues as to what happened here. I mean no history of Tweeting or Facebook likes that give a clear intention. No friends or relatives coming out and saying, “Yeah he was always talking about how he hated America.” No notes or manifestos. Maybe it is normal, but the motivation seems to have been pretty private.

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/927 "2013-04-19T18:38:18Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> I don’t doubt it for a second. It seems very weird to me that there isn’t like obvious clues as to what happened here. I mean no history of Tweeting or Facebook likes that give a clear intention. No friends or relatives coming out and saying, “Yeah he was always talking about how he hated America.” No notes or manifestos. Maybe it is normal, but the motivation seems to have been pretty private.

That we know of. And while we’ve heard a lot about how great the Younger Brother was, I’ve not heard anybody really say anything about the Older Brother.

Except quoting his hardline statements about his religion, which isn’t a damning fact, but is suspicious, based on American experience with these types of events in the past.

I would bet we get reports in the coming days about how Older Brother used to be okay, then he got weird and withdrawn. And the subsequent discovery of the manifesto writings, weirdness, etc. He’s crazy pants.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/928 "2013-04-19T18:44:35Z")

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Now they just showed the aunt who has the same last name. I have to wonder why the uncle has a different last name. Did he change his name or shorten it for some reason?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/929 "2013-04-19T18:48:28Z")

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The uncle could be their mother’s brother, or he could be either parent’s sister’s husband.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/930 "2013-04-19T18:49:13Z")

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Here’s a good collection of photos.

> **[Photos From the Manhunt in Boston](https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/photography/2013/04/boston_marathon_boming_standoff_photos_of_dzhokhar_tsarnaev_from_watertown.html)**
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> Read more on Slate about the Boston Marathon bombing.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/931 "2013-04-19T19:00:41Z")

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> [@edwards\_beard](#):
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> I just saw a pic on twitter (that I won’t link to here) claiming it is suspect 1 post mortem (on a slab)

[There’s a real photo that’s been making the rounds](http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/19/viewing-photo-dead-suspect-cathartic-for-some-law-enforcement-officers/uJ9vimLyJ4mrTRvFyxCLSP/story.html).

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/932 "2013-04-19T19:04:12Z")

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I’ve been catching up on last nights events. Glad they managed to stop the older brother. Was it confirmed that he was wearing a explosive vest or something? Anyway he sounds like the psycho leader.

Little brother was a pre-med student. He’s in this now and just as dangerous. I hope he turns himself in. There’s been enough killing this week.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/933 "2013-04-19T19:09:19Z")

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Not confirmed. Tamerlan had “blast injuries” as well as bullet wounds. They had other IED’s with them, anyway.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/934 "2013-04-19T19:12:37Z")

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From the New York Times:

> [@](#):
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> as the remaining suspect sped away in a car, he ran over his brother’s body.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/935 "2013-04-19T19:15:24Z")

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> [@Sateryn76](#):
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> That we know of. And while we’ve heard a lot about how great the Younger Brother was, I’ve not heard anybody really say anything about the Older Brother.
> 
> Except quoting his hardline statements about his religion, which isn’t a damning fact, but is suspicious, based on American experience with these types of events in the past.
> 
> I would bet we get reports in the coming days about how Older Brother used to be okay, then he got weird and withdrawn. And the subsequent discovery of the manifesto writings, weirdness, etc. He’s crazy pants.

I thought Older Brother had only been in the US for a year. He probably doesn’t have close acquaintances is my guess.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/936 "2013-04-19T19:19:51Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I thought Older Brother had only been in the US for a year. He probably doesn’t have close acquaintances is my guess.

No, they were both here for years. The older one became a citizen last year on September 11th, which sounds like a detail would have been cut out of an anti-immigrant propaganda film because it’s too unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/937 "2013-04-19T19:23:22Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> No, they were both here for years. The older one became a citizen last year on September 11th, which sounds like a detail would have been cut out of an anti-immigrant propaganda film because it’s too unbelievable.

One of my favorite quotes from this board (apologies for not remembering who) is “Truth is stranger than fiction because truth doesn’t have to make sense.”

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/938 "2013-04-19T19:25:27Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I thought Older Brother had only been in the US for a year. He probably doesn’t have close acquaintances is my guess.

I’ve seen varying news reports saying they came here in 2002 or '03 and that they came to the States 5 years ago. I haven’t seen anything saying it was as recent as a year ago. A school friend of the 19 year old said he spoke English without an accent and he was surprised to find out he wasn’t born here.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/939 "2013-04-19T19:26:11Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> The uncle could be their mother’s brother, or he could be either parent’s sister’s husband.

The uncle said that his brother is the men’s father. He even badmouthed his brother, saying he didn’t have much of an influence on his sons. Their father also confirmed the uncle is his brother, although they haven’t spoken to each other in several years.

Excuse me for asking a dumb question, but IANAL. If Dzhokar Tsarnaev is captured and brought to trial, he should be charged with at least four counts of murder, the three Marathon victims and the MIT cop. If an autopsy determines that his running over his brother contributed to his death, could he be charged for that, too? Or otherwise charged in his brother’s death due to it occurring during the commission of a felony?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/940 "2013-04-19T19:26:21Z")

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The dad is pretty clueless about his sons.  
[http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspects-dad-tells-son-surrender-hell/story?id=18995936#.UXGZakqiG6M](http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspects-dad-tells-son-surrender-hell/story?id=18995936#.UXGZakqiG6M)

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> The elder Tsarnaev, in a series of conversations with ABC News, insisted that his sons were innocent, but said he would appeal to his son to “surrender peacefully.”
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> “Give up. Give up. You have a bright future ahead of you. Come home to Russia,” the dad said.
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> The father warned, however, “If they killed him, then all hell would break loose.”
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> “If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame,” the father told ABC News. “Someone, some organization is out to get them.”
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> Anzor Tsarnaev said that his sons were “set up” and that they are “very nice kids” who have no experience with weapons and explosives.

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