# Explosions at Boston Marathon **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781 "2013-04-15T19:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/981 "2013-04-19T20:55:03Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > [Confirmation for my 7-11 posts above.](https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/325347029826019329) So, if they didn’t rob the 7-11, where did the 7-11 security footage come from? Or _was_ that 7-11 security footage? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/982 "2013-04-19T20:55:52Z")
Next we will find out that they were brainwashed as children and then “triggered” once the terrorist bosses wanted to use them. That’s how illogical most of their movements have been. It was reported a little while ago that the younger brother showed up on his campus in the past few days…wearing the same white cap. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/983 "2013-04-19T21:07:43Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’ve seen both, but I think everybody’s settled on the older brother being the citizen. Nope, it was the younger one. The older one had a green card. ---
**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/984 "2013-04-19T21:09:19Z")
Boston bombing: How internet detectives got it very wrong [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511) ‘Racist Where’s Wally’ sums it up. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/985 "2013-04-19T21:12:27Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Now they just showed the aunt who has the same last name. I have to wonder why the uncle has a different last name. Did he change his name or shorten it for some reason? A lot of immigrants with exotic (that is, non-Anglo) names, change their last names when they become citizens. Usually shorten them. I did. ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/986 "2013-04-19T21:17:13Z")
Speculation based on apparently leaked photos (plus comments from LEOs) that the older brother, in addition to being shot, was run over by the stolen SUV. There’s a very gruesome pic online which purports\* to be the body of the older brother, and it does show evidence of blunt trauma such as a car impact. Broken link here (MODS: please remove if it’s not appropriate). Needless to say it’s NSFW… let me just repeat that, it’s a yukky pic so viewer discretion advised. http:// [i.imgur.com](http://i.imgur.com) / 0U0ozqt . jpg \*based on recent reports it’s hard to trust any info at the moment My WAG is that the younger brother is dead from a self-inflicted injury somewhere in Boston. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/987 "2013-04-19T21:20:33Z")
> [@Wallenstein](#): > > Speculation based on apparently leaked photos (plus comments from LEOs) that the older brother, in addition to being shot, was run over by the stolen SUV. > > There’s a very gruesome pic online which purports\* to be the body of the older brother, and it does show evidence of blunt trauma such as a car impact. > > Broken link here (MODS: please remove if it’s not appropriate). > > Needless to say it’s NSFW… let me just repeat that, it’s a yukky pic so viewer discretion advised. > > http:// [i.imgur.com](http://i.imgur.com) / 0U0ozqt . jpg > > \*based on recent reports it’s hard to trust any info at the moment > > My WAG is that the younger brother is dead from a self-inflicted injury somewhere in Boston. I’ve seen confirmation someplace that that pic is legit. The large opening in his chest is from EMTs trying to revive his heart. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/988 "2013-04-19T21:42:01Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > The large opening in his chest is from EMTs trying to revive his heart. Sadly, this was unsuccessful as they were unable to find one. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/989 "2013-04-19T21:43:50Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > Isn’t it a bizarre coincidence that XKCD’s “What If?” column last week dealt with what kind of dangers a pressure cooker poses? > > [Here](http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/) > > I was seriously wondering if I had mis-remembered that. There was a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688357) about that coincidence in Cafe Society in fact. > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Edit: I swear to god, it feels like I’m discussing the plot of a badly-written movie instead of actual real-life events. I’m seeing a lot of people say that. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/990 "2013-04-19T21:47:53Z")
I hope they drop the terror label on the Marathon bombing. This was two a-holes on a murder spree nothing more. They probably watched some vids on the Internet and bought the pressure cookers. A real terror organization would have either had an escape plan or just kept setting more bombs. These guys are no different than the Joker psycho that shot up the movie theater. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/991 "2013-04-19T21:56:40Z")
I haven’t read this entire thread, so apologies if this has been discussed a few pages ago. The recognition software used to shorten the time of picking out the images of these guys from the crowds must be military in origin. If so, that’s pretty damned impressive; there must have been tens of thousands of people in the area, and in particular around the finish line. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/992 "2013-04-19T21:58:04Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I hope they drop the terror label on the Marathon bombing. This was two a-holes on a murder spree nothing more. They probably watched some vids on the Internet and bought the pressure cookers. > > A real terror organization would have either had an escape plan or just kept setting more bombs. > > These guys are no different than the Joker psycho that shot up the movie theater. A stupid, poorly planned act of terrorism is still an act of terrorism. Are we to give them a pass because they were so bad at it? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/993 "2013-04-19T22:01:51Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > The recognition software used to shorten the time of picking out the images of these guys from the crowds must be military in origin. Perhaps it was originally, but reports are the work of processing all the video images was performed by the Mass State Police child pornography unit - they have all the needed equipment, experience, and expertise at identifying faces. That work was cross-indexed with the US State Department’s index of visa photos. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/994 "2013-04-19T22:02:18Z")
I’m not giving them a pass at all. I have more contempt for the Joker guy and these Boston bombers than the IRA or Al Qaeda . Real terrorists consider themselves soldiers. There’s an organization there, training, and so on. They justify their targets as acts of war. It’s still bloody senseless killing IMHO but there are strategies behind what the IRA did and what Al Qaeda does today. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/995 "2013-04-19T22:03:23Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > I haven’t read this entire thread, so apologies if this has been discussed a few pages ago. > > The recognition software used to shorten the time of picking out the images of these guys from the crowds must be military in origin. If so, that’s pretty damned impressive; there must have been tens of thousands of people in the area, and in particular around the finish line. Have you ever imported someone’s whole picture collection into Google’s Picasa software? I did that yesterday, and it was so through that it creeped me right out. Combine that with the image base of Google Images, Facebook and a few other sources, and you should be able to cobble up something pretty impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/996 "2013-04-19T22:05:10Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m not giving them a pass at all. I have more contempt for the Joker guy and these Boston bomber than the IRA or Al Qaeda . > > Real terrorists consider themselves soldiers. There’s an organization there, training, and so on. They justify their targets as acts of war. It’s still bloody senseless killing IMHO but there are strategies behind what the IRA did and what Al Qaeda does today. Did you just try to “No True Scotsman” terrorism? Because if so, I am impressed! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/997 "2013-04-19T22:06:01Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m not giving them a pass at all. I have more contempt for the Joker guy and these Boston bomber than the IRA or Al Qaeda . > > Real terrorists consider themselves soldiers. There’s an organization there, training, and so on. They justify their targets as acts of war. It’s still bloody senseless killing IMHO but there are strategies behind what the IRA did and what Al Qaeda does today. Nope, these guys are terrorists. Your definition is very narrow and incomplete. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/998 "2013-04-19T22:08:35Z")
😕 I’m not sure what that is. I’ve read interviews from former IRA and nearly everyone of them justify what they did as acts of war. Jihad is war. It’s different from a nutcase randomly shooting or blowing up people. > [@Tarwater](#): > > Did you just try to “No True Scotsman” terrorism? > > Because if so, I am impressed! ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/999 "2013-04-19T22:09:55Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > A stupid, poorly planned act of terrorism is still an act of terrorism. Are we to give them a pass because they were so bad at it? Agreed. Although really, who cares? Seems to me the only real reason to care one way or another what label is used is to try to make some political point or other… bad men did something bad and people were killed and others were injured. It’s certainly worth trying to figure out what motivated them, as it will hopefully help us find and stop others in the future, but the dead and injured are still just as dead and injured. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1000 "2013-04-19T22:14:36Z")
I totally agree the senseless death and maiming is whats really important. It’s sickening what’s happened this week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781.md?page=51)