# Explosions at Boston Marathon **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781 "2013-04-15T19:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1401 "2013-04-28T01:33:13Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > I find it interesting that you can somehow get that I assume the Russians are telling the truth or the whole truth or are all this trustworthy from me posting “the Russians claim”. Well, I must have misunderstood it but your reply to Blank Slate’s observation about how natural it is for parents to be in denial sounded like “Yeah, right” preceded with a note on Russians reporting that mother and son discussed “jihad”. It looked like you were mocking parents’ denial and basis for that mockery was what Russians heard while listening in. You made the link in which it appears you took Russians at face value. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1402 "2013-04-28T01:49:23Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > Well, I must have misunderstood it but your reply to Blank Slate’s observation about how natural it is for parents to be in denial sounded like “Yeah, right” preceded with a note on Russians reporting that mother and son discussed “jihad”. It looked like you were mocking parents’ denial and basis for that mockery was what Russians heard while listening in. You made the link in which it appears you took Russians at face value. It kind of depends on what comes of their claims. I don’t totally discount them or give them total credence. Not based on anything the Russians said, I think the parents know more than they’re letting on. That’s why I was mocking them. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1403 "2013-04-28T23:16:29Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > She could know a lot more then she’s admitting. It’s possible. > [@](#): > > It took time to buy enough fireworks and extract the gunpowder. Buy too much and it’ll draw attention. They must have made a lot of small purchases at different places. Fireworks aren’t guns or fertilizer, though. Nobody keeps track of their sale and nobody was comparing notes. [I just read a report that the older brother bought $400 worth of fireworks a few months ago](http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/single-gun-recovered-accused-boston-bombers/story?id=19028841#.UX2s7cr4J1h). That wouldn’t have been enough, but I don’t think they were buying $20 worth of fireworks at dozens of stores. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1404 "2013-04-28T23:40:24Z")
I regularly buy $300 worth or more for the Fourth of July. It’s not a very big package either. ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1405 "2013-04-30T00:48:09Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > I regularly buy $300 worth or more for the Fourth of July. It’s not a very big package either. That’s what she said!!! ::d&r:: ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1406 "2013-05-01T15:43:15Z")
3 more people arrested in connection with the marathon bombings…for apparently helping bomber #2 at UMASS Dartmouth after the bombings… [http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05/01/three-additional-people-taken-into-custody-boston-marathon-bombings/dhLzU1e5vfbuhxyjWlBOSP/story.html](http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05/01/three-additional-people-taken-into-custody-boston-marathon-bombings/dhLzU1e5vfbuhxyjWlBOSP/story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1407 "2013-05-01T15:58:53Z")
I read that some of the people in the picture with Dzhokhar in Times Square were actually taken into custody and questioned immediately after the attack. They were students at the same school and were at that time not charged with any terrorist activity, but they continued to be held in custody because they had violated the terms of their student visas by not attending class regularly. One of them had a license plate which said “Terrorista#1” Here is the article: [http://bigstory.ap.org/article/lawyer-jailed-pair-shocked-boston-bomb-claims](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/lawyer-jailed-pair-shocked-boston-bomb-claims) I wonder if either of those kids is one of the ones in custody now . . . ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1408 "2013-05-01T16:57:03Z")
One of the CNN commentators said obstruction of justice is a pretty weak charge. Hard to prove and doesn’t carry a big penalty. He speculated they may have given aid to the bombers afterward. IANAL so I’ll take their word for it. These guys will probably be deported soon anyway because of their expired student visas. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1409 "2013-05-01T17:06:01Z")
> [@Gestalt](#): > > I wonder if either of those kids is one of the ones in custody now . . . Those are two of them, yes. NBC says they were detained on immigration charges and will be charged with lying to the FBI (or whoever) about taking some stuff out of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s dorm room. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1410 "2013-05-01T18:22:15Z")
Well thats a bit embarrassing. The FBI is chasing crazed bomb making jihadists and they nab a couple of lying college kids. 😉 They must be pretty desperate to make arrests. Any arrests. Now there’s reports that [Saudi Arabia warned DHS](http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/report-saudi-arabia-warned-us-about-boston-marathon-bomber-tamerlan-tsarnaev-in-2012-letter) in writing about the Boston Bomber. We got warnings from Russia and Saudi Arabia that weren’t acted on. Yeah, lets spend our time busting college kids for lying. > [@](#): > > The Saudi government official said the U.S. Government and the British government were told that Tamerlan in particular was a threat in a “government-to-government” letter. > > The document, which was reportedly sent to a Department of Homeland Security official at the highest level, also warned that something was going to happen in a major U.S. city. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1411 "2013-05-01T18:35:25Z")
The Saudis are officially denying it as well as denying they refused visa’s to Mecca to the bombers. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1412 "2013-05-01T18:37:31Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Well thats a bit embarrassing. The FBI is chasing crazed bomb making jihadists and they nab a couple of lying college kids. 😉 The FBI says they took his backpack out of his room sometime after the bombing and then lied about it. Do you not see that that could be pretty serious? > [@](#): > > Now there’s reports that [Saudi Arabia warned DHS](http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/report-saudi-arabia-warned-us-about-boston-marathon-bomber-tamerlan-tsarnaev-in-2012-letter) in writing about the Boston Bomber. The U.S. and Saudi governments are both denying this. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1413 "2013-05-01T19:09:39Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The FBI says they took his backpack out of his room sometime after the bombing and then lied about it. Do you not see that that could be pretty serious? And possible disposed of a laptop they’ve been digging for in a landfill. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1414 "2013-05-01T19:14:45Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > And possible disposed of a laptop they’ve been digging for in a landfill. Brilliant. His friends are as stupid as he is. The FBI is being pretty chatty about this. They’re now saying these three twerps went into Tsarnaev’s room after the bombing, saw a backpack full of emptied fireworks, realized he was involved with the bombing, and decided to dispose of the backpack and his laptop to help him. And of course they lied about it afterward. That’s great stuff: the bomber was too stupid to dispose of the evidence, so his friends just decided to do it for him unbidden. I guess the two Kazakh students will be deported and the third (a U.S. citizen) is looking at jail time. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1415 "2013-05-01T20:56:07Z")
If you’re interested[popehat](http://www.popehat.com/2013/05/01/a-quick-look-at-the-complaints-against-kadyrbayev-tazhayakov-and-phillipos/)has links to the charges against the three additional men. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1416 "2013-05-01T22:30:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I guess the two Kazakh students will be deported and the third (a U.S. citizen) is looking at jail time. I seriously doubt the Kazakhs will be deported before prosecution, unless the federal prosecutor drops the charges. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1417 "2013-05-01T22:35:54Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I seriously doubt the Kazakhs will be deported before prosecution, unless the federal prosecutor drops the charges. Having seen the kind of jail time they are looking at, you may be right. Especially if the laptop is damaged or can’t be found. ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1418 "2013-05-02T04:50:18Z")
Has it been accepted that the bombings were religiously motivated yet? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1419 "2013-05-02T05:10:45Z")
My earlier comments were based on the breaking news. At that point they were only reporting lying. One of the CNN talking heads said it was a hard charge to prove and pretty meaningless. Lying to protect your friends is illegal but it’s not the crime of the century. OF course 15 minutes later they start reporting that the backpack and laptop were removed and thrown out. That changes everything. Now they are saying two guys tampered with evidences. For a bombing case like this that’s big. They probably won’t be deported anytime soon. There’s still one guy only charged with lying to the cops. They may make a harsh example out of him too because this is such a big case that basically shut down Boston. I should have waited longer after the breaking news banner appeared on CNN. > [@Marley23](#): > > The FBI says they took his backpack out of his room sometime after the bombing and then lied about it. Do you not see that that could be pretty serious? > > The U.S. and Saudi governments are both denying this. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1420 "2013-05-02T12:57:37Z")
I think the only thing those guys are good at disposing of are weed and their educational opportunities. They look like chumps. But if the police were tipped off about the bombing beforehand and investigated Dzhokhar, I’m not sure he would have looked like anything more then a chump either. Wonder what the roommate is like. Build bombs or whatever, just don’t bug him while he’s studying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781.md?page=72)