# Explosions at Boston Marathon **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781 "2013-04-15T19:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1421 "2013-05-02T13:01:06Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > My earlier comments were based on the breaking news. At that point they were only reporting lying. One of the CNN talking heads said… There’s your problem. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1422 "2013-05-02T13:42:13Z")
Something tells me that these three guys are going to agree to plea deals pretty quickly in exchange for testimony against their friend. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1423 "2013-05-02T14:53:31Z")
> [@AaronX](#): > > Has it been accepted that the bombings were religiously motivated yet? Yes. There are still questions about how and why these guys became fanatics and why they decided to do this and whether the older brother got any help or training during his trip to Russia in 2012, but everybody seems to agree about the religion angle. > [@aceplace57](#): > > Lying to protect your friends is illegal but it’s not the crime of the century. That depends what you’re lying about! Lying to interfere with this investigation would be enough to get them in trouble and it’s a really dumb thing to do since it’s pretty obvious their friend was a terrorist. What was lying to the FBI going to do to help him? As it turns out the two Kazakh kids are charged with taking the stuff out of his room and the other one is charged with lying about it. And I’ve given up on CNN in the wake of their lousy coverage, for whatever that’s worth. NBC has done a good job and that’s where I got these other details. > [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Something tells me that these three guys are going to agree to plea deals pretty quickly in exchange for testimony against their friend. Right. I assume their parents and lawyers are now very involved and they won’t be able to do the sort of dumb shit they normally do on impulse. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1424 "2013-05-02T15:05:15Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What was lying to the FBI going to do to help him? As it turns out the two Kazakh kids are charged with taking the stuff out of his room and the other one is charged with lying about it. Worse, these actions took place before the MIT cop was killed, so there’s a possibility that these likes and removal of evidence (and contact with the younger suspect who’s now in jail) contributed to his death. If the police can make that connection then these three are in a world of trouble. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1425 "2013-05-02T15:06:28Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Worse, these actions took place before the MIT cop was killed, so there’s a possibility that these likes and removal of evidence (and contact with the younger suspect who’s now in jail) contributed to his death. If the police can make that connection then these three are in a world of trouble. That seems like a huge stretch to me. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1426 "2013-05-02T15:21:47Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > That seems like a huge stretch to me. It’s a stretch, but the prosecutors are certainly going to look into it closely. If there was communications between these three and the two bombers before the killing of the MIT officer they are certainly going to try to make the case. A lawyer on the radio this morning thought it’s unlikely that they could make the case with the evidence currently released, but that additional evidence could make it happen. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1427 "2013-05-02T15:39:52Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > It’s a stretch, but the prosecutors are certainly going to look into it closely. If there was communications between these three and the two bombers before the killing of the MIT officer they are certainly going to try to make the case. They’ll try to make the case if they think the communication had anything to do with Collier’s death, and based on the little bit we know I don’t see the connection. Everything the brothers did that Thursday night/Friday morning was pretty haphazard and I don’t think having his backpack or laptop would’ve affected the manhunt. difference. I’m sure they will look at everything closely and they must’ve been in touch with him during that period, but I don’t think this part of it is going to be an issue. And it sounds like the FBI now has the backpack and the laptop, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1428 "2013-05-02T15:47:34Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > That seems like a huge stretch to me. Not really. The bombers randomly killed people already. Taking evidence implies they had reason to believe the bombers would be under suspicion for the act and therefore capable of additional acts. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1429 "2013-05-02T16:06:20Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Not really. The bombers randomly killed people already. Taking evidence implies they had reason to believe the bombers would be under suspicion for the act and therefore capable of additional acts. They’re commenting more specifically on the idea of these three morons contributing to the death of Officer Collier by taking evidence. I doubt that’s the case, but we’ll find out. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1430 "2013-05-02T16:43:32Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They’re commenting more specifically on the idea of these three morons contributing to the death of Officer Collier by taking evidence. I doubt that’s the case, but we’ll find out. If you take evidence to protect someone randomly killing people and they go on to kill someone it makes you complicit in the killing. It’s along the lines of driving with someone who commits a crime during that drive. Not only was the material removed to avoid the suspicion of the police the material was reasonably suspicious enough on it’s own to be questionable at face value. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1431 "2013-05-02T16:48:58Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > If you take evidence to protect someone randomly killing people and they go on to kill someone it makes you complicit in the killing. It’s along the lines of driving with someone who commits a crime during that drive. So do you think these guys are going to be charged with anything connected to that killing? Based on what we’ve heard, I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1432 "2013-05-02T17:04:39Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > So do you think these guys are going to be charged with anything connected to that killing? Based on what we’ve heard, I don’t. Not sure. Haven’t heard enough background yet. Either they were asked by the bomber or they did it by themselves. Either way they would have had to be suspicious of the material they were removing. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1433 "2013-05-02T17:10:22Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Not sure. Haven’t heard enough background yet. Either they were asked by the bomber or they did it by themselves. Either way they would have had to be suspicious of the material they were removing. What I’ve read is that they volunteered to remove it, texted him, and he told them to go ahead. Everybody agrees they knew what they were removing and why they did it. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1434 "2013-05-02T17:22:26Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > If you take evidence to protect someone randomly killing people and they go on to kill someone it makes you complicit in the killing. As far as I can tell, that isn’t what happened. If they had not moved the evidence, Officer Collier would still be dead. It isn’t as though police checked the room and found nothing. Police didn’t search the room until after the murder had already happened. One could make the argument that if they had turned the bombers in, then perhaps the shooting would not have happened, but that, as I stated before, is a huge stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1435 "2013-05-02T17:24:27Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What I’ve read is that they volunteered to remove it, texted him, and he told them to go ahead. Everybody agrees they knew what they were removing and why they did it. sounds like they’re in serious hot water to me. They knew he had bomb making material and removed it. That means they knew HE wasn’t available to remove it. their only defense is that they didn’t know for sure he was the bomber. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1436 "2013-05-02T17:24:36Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > One could make the argument that if they had turned the bombers in, then perhaps the shooting would not have happened, but that, as I stated before, is a huge stretch. I don’t think that’s a crime. And anyway by the time the shooting happened I am pretty sure the police knew who they were looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1437 "2013-05-02T17:26:42Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > As far as I can tell, that isn’t what happened. If they had not moved the evidence, Officer Collier would still be dead. It isn’t as though police checked the room and found nothing. Police didn’t search the room until after the murder had already happened. > > One could make the argument that if they had turned the bombers in, then perhaps the shooting would not have happened, but that, as I stated before, is a huge stretch. They had knowledge that something suspicious existed that could have identified the bomber. They didn’t know for sure but they acted as if it would incriminate. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1438 "2013-05-02T17:28:11Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think that’s a crime. I agree. I was trying to show that the only cause-effect one could make connecting to the MIT officer’s death is a very bad one. Perhaps “huge stretch” is a poor choice of words. Perhaps “complete BS” is better? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1439 "2013-05-02T17:36:19Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > They had knowledge that something suspicious existed that could have identified the bomber. They didn’t know for sure but they acted as if it would incriminate. I think you guys are still talking past each other. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1440 "2013-05-03T02:07:32Z")
Thats a lucky break. It may be fully intact and running. Sure glad that it wasn’t thrown in a dumpster. It would have been crushed in a garbage truck. > **[Here’s the latest on the Boston Marathon bombings | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/02/justice/boston-bombings-latest-developments/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)** > > Here are the most recent developments in the investigation into the April 15 Boston Marathon bombings: > [@](#): > > The laptop computer belonging to bombings suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has been turned over to the FBI by one of Tsarnaev’s friends who has been charged with obstructing justice, Dias Kadyrbayev’s lawyer told CNN on Thursday. A law enforcement source confirmed the attorney’s account. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781.md?page=73)