# Explosions at Boston Marathon

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 15, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781 "2013-04-15T19:16:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1441 "2013-05-03T02:09:33Z")

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Helicopters overhead this afternoon. Found out that they brought the body of bomber #1 to a funeral home in my town. People on facebook are all losing their minds saying they are going to boycott the funeral home from now on. I can understand being pissed at him…but why take it out on the funeral home?

I also saw a story where they were originally planning on targeting the July 4th celebration in Boston on the Esplanade where the Boston Pops plays to the fireworks display. Doesn’t that get aired nationlly?

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**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1442 "2013-05-03T21:32:03Z")

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> [@edwards\_beard](#):
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> Helicopters overhead this afternoon. Found out that they brought the body of bomber #1 to a funeral home in my town. People on facebook are all losing their minds saying they are going to boycott the funeral home from now on. I can understand being pissed at him…but why take it out on the funeral home?
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> I also saw a story where they were originally planning on targeting the July 4th celebration in Boston on the Esplanade where the Boston Pops plays to the fireworks display. Doesn’t that get aired nationlly?

Yes, it most certainly does, on PBS I think

As for the bomber’s body, I don’t think people should take it out on the funeral home either. As a Catholic, I’ve been raised to respect the dead and the remains of the dead and I feel strongly that everyone deserves a proper burial no matter what they’ve done in life. So I respect the funeral home for taking on a difficult task.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1443 "2013-05-04T03:09:33Z")

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> [@computergeek](#):
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> Yes, it most certainly does, on PBS I think
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> As for the bomber’s body, I don’t think people should take it out on the funeral home either. As a Catholic, I’ve been raised to respect the dead and the remains of the dead and I feel strongly that everyone deserves a proper burial no matter what they’ve done in life. So I respect the funeral home for taking on a difficult task.

Respect is something given upfront as a courtesy. From then on then earned or lost by one’s actions.

In this case, I feel the bomber has blown away any and all respect for his remains. He went down trying to kill more people.

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**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1444 "2013-05-04T04:10:48Z")

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> [@edwards\_beard](#):
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> Helicopters overhead this afternoon. Found out that they brought the body of bomber #1 to a funeral home in my town. People on facebook are all losing their minds saying they are going to boycott the funeral home from now on. I can understand being pissed at him…but why take it out on the funeral home?

Maybe they think Tamerlan is going to turn into a zombie? Really, who cares what mortuary a dead body is shipped off to? It has to go somewhere once the forensic autopsy’s completed, and dead is dead.

People sure can be dumb sometimes.

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**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1445 "2013-05-04T04:13:43Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> What I’ve read is that they volunteered to remove it, texted him, and he told them to go ahead. Everybody agrees they knew what they were removing and why they did it.

I wonder if that’s enough to have them charged as accomplices, since it means they were knowingly aiding a felon in the commission of his crimes.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1446 "2013-05-07T09:06:46Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Respect is something given upfront as a courtesy. From then on then earned or lost by one’s actions.
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> In this case, I feel the bomber has blown away any and all respect for his remains. He went down trying to kill more people.

Well, he’s dead. He doesn’t need the respect. But he did have a wife and kids who might want to bury the man they knew before he became a killer.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1447 "2013-05-07T10:39:20Z")

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Burial at sea imo.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1448 "2013-05-07T10:40:25Z")

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I read yesterday that Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s widow is under investigation, specifically phone calls that he made to her both before and after the attacks.

More interestingly, it appears that [all phone calls made in the USA](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston) are potentially recorded, stored and accessible to the authorities after the fact.

Which is nice.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1449 "2013-05-07T11:01:41Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> I read yesterday that Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s widow is under investigation, specifically phone calls that he made to her both before and after the attacks.
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> More interestingly, it appears that [all phone calls made in the USA](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston) are potentially recorded, stored and accessible to the authorities after the fact.
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> Which is nice.

I’d find it very surprising if they didn’t investigate a bomber’s wife. They’ll also be talking to his former co-workers, neighbours, etc. Investigating her doesn’t mean she did anything wrong. Perhaps she did, but I’d have expected something to have come out about that by now.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1450 "2013-05-07T11:31:26Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Burial at sea imo.

Because all the gibbets are full?

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1451 "2013-05-07T12:26:55Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> I’d find it very surprising if they didn’t investigate a bomber’s wife. They’ll also be talking to his former co-workers, neighbours, etc. Investigating her doesn’t mean she did anything wrong. Perhaps she did, but I’d have expected something to have come out about that by now.

I agree that the investigation itself is unsurprising. What is more surprising is the seemingly casual admission that _any_ “private” phone conversation can apparently be called up on some giant database and listened to. Quite apart from the privacy implications, that’s some serious storage and indexing capacity right there.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1452 "2013-05-07T12:34:36Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> Well, he’s dead. He doesn’t need the respect. But he did have a wife and kids who might want to bury the man they knew before he became a killer.

Thing is, she hasn’t made an effort to claim him has she? From what I understand it’s Uncle Ruslan (sp?) that took possession and cleaned him in Muslim tradition but is now finding no cemetery will accept his body for internment. The wife seems to be distancing herself, which probably doesn’t come as a great surprise to anyone.

I saw too that a group has raised 5K to send his body overseas. Obviously, for some a cemetery is a place for bodies, for others a place for memories.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1453 "2013-05-07T12:58:48Z")

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Are they looking for a Muslim cemetery? Does it matter to Muslims if they are in a public one or does it need to be Muslim?

Pretty high bail for lying. This kid really screwed up getting involved in this.  
[http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/06/us-usa-explosions-boston-release-idUSBRE9450I220130506](http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/06/us-usa-explosions-boston-release-idUSBRE9450I220130506)

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> The teenager accused of lying to FBI agents in the Boston Marathon bombing case was freed on $100,000 bail on Monday pending a later trial date, and investigators said bomb fragments suggest they were less sophisticated than homemade ones used by insurgents.
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> While out on bail, Robel Phillipos will be under the custody of his mother and must wear a GPS bracelet, U.S. Magistrate Judge Marianne Bowler ordered in federal court in Boston. The $100,000 bail for the 19-year-old was secured by real estate put up by a third party, the judge said.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1454 "2013-05-07T13:18:22Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Thing is, she hasn’t made an effort to claim him has she? From what I understand it’s Uncle Ruslan (sp?) that took possession and cleaned him in Muslim tradition but is now finding no cemetery will accept his body for internment. The wife seems to be distancing herself, which probably doesn’t come as a great surprise to anyone.
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> I saw too that a group has raised 5K to send his body overseas. Obviously, for some a cemetery is a place for bodies, for others a place for memories.

I don’t know if she has or not, but if the US (or companies and institutions in the US) afford him a proper burial then that demonstrates that you are a better people than some terrorists apparently think you are.

The dead should be buried with whatever ceremony is appropriate, and their loved ones allowed to grieve, because that’s what you usually do and terrorists can’t take your principles away from you.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1455 "2013-05-07T13:24:46Z")

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Yep. I think the problem lies with the fact that no one wants to prevent a family from grieving a burying a realtive, no matter what crime they’ve committed, but understandably neither do they want this person buried near one of their loved ones, this both out of respect for their dead and because they don’t want to see that site become a focal point for hate or false martyrdom or anything else other than a place of quiet reflection and tranquility.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1456 "2013-05-07T15:26:54Z")

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I’d be happy to give him a Bin Laden burial - take him out to sea and dump him.

But Russia is OK too.

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1457 "2013-05-07T17:25:49Z")

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What about a bunch of us dress up as Native Americans and dump his sorry dead ass into Boston harbor?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1458 "2013-05-07T17:38:41Z")

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This is one of those issues where I can’t grasp the outrage. He’s dead, and it’s unlikely that the location of his burial will be disclosed. All sorts of serial killers and assassins get buried. There’s no point in treating this guy differently.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1459 "2013-05-07T17:51:15Z")

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I haven’t read most of this thread, but there is something that I’d like to share about the bombing.

On Saturday, for the first time since the marathon, I ventured into Copley Square. I wasn’t sure what to expect. Would it be a ghost town? Would there be few people there, all cowed in fear? Would it be a police state?

Quite the contrary. It was almost like a party. That’s probably the most people I’ve seen there except during, well, a marathon. Everyone was happy and smiling. There was a motorcycle “race”, for which a huge crowd was gathered. The place had LIFE.

As horrific as the events were, they really pulled together the people of this city. I am seeing more and more t-shirts that say “Boston Strong.” I just saw one that said “Wicked Strong.”

And just after the bombing I saw a lot of things of facebook from some sort of organization calling itself NY(heart)B. Thank you, New York. It was like an older, experienced brother comforting us right after we got beaten up.

We are not terrorized!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-boston-marathon/655781/1460 "2013-05-07T17:51:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> This is one of those issues where I can’t grasp the outrage. He’s dead, and it’s unlikely that the location of his burial will be disclosed. All sorts of serial killers and assassins get buried. There’s no point in treating this guy differently.

“The guy.” What “the guy?” It’s just a mass of dead organic tissue at this point. Who gives a shit what they do with it.

Translation: I share your non-graspedness of the issue.

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