# Explosions at Manchester Arena (England)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 22, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243 "2017-05-22T23:17:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/21 "2017-05-23T00:24:43Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> [Closest thing I’ve seen to confirmation of terrorist attack](https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/866806307159986176)
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> But I don’t know the UK sources well enough to know which ones I should be following.

For TV, BBC is your best bet in breaking news if you want slow but reliable. Sky if you like a bit of speculation. The Guardian does live rolling news blogs well.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/22 "2017-05-23T00:28:09Z")

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Knock it off. No religious (or political) jabs in this thread.

> [@Esco](#):
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> The religion of peace again??

> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> No confirmation at this point, but I know which way I’d wager if I had to.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/23 "2017-05-23T00:32:33Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Knock it off. No religious (or political) jabs in this thread.

Well [the British authorities said it was possibly a suicide bomber](https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/866810151591739392). Is discussing that out-of-bounds too?

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/24 "2017-05-23T00:32:57Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Knock it off. No religious (or political) jabs in this thread.

Fuck off asswipe!!! You’re part of the problem.

Keep letting these Muslim cunts into the west, and sooner or later we wont have a country left anymore

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/25 "2017-05-23T00:34:41Z")

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**Esco** , probably not the right tone to take with someone with the title “Moderator”. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/26 "2017-05-23T00:35:46Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> **Esco** , probably not the right tone to take with someone with the title “Moderator”. YMMV.

I don’t care, let him ban me

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/27 "2017-05-23T00:37:59Z")

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Well, you got yourself a warning. Now you can stay out of this thread or your posting privileges will be under discussion.

Don’t post in this thread again.

> [@Esco](#):
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> Fuck off asswipe!!! You’re part of the problem.
> 
> Keep letting these Muslim cunts into the west, and sooner or later we wont have a country left anymore

> [@Esco](#):
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> I don’t care, let him ban me

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/28 "2017-05-23T00:38:36Z")

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**IvoryTowerDenizen** must be from the SDMB Nation. Proficient in member-bending.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/29 "2017-05-23T00:39:27Z")

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I suspect you are capable of telling the difference between an on-topic discussion of an ongoing investigation and political/religious jabs.

If you can’t, avoid posting in this thread.

> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Well [the British authorities said it was possibly a suicide bomber](https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/866810151591739392). Is discussing that out-of-bounds too?

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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/30 "2017-05-23T00:41:41Z")

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FFS. It should be obvious who I am talking to. The last major terrorist explosion in Manchester was the [IRA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing). [Nails and other shrapnel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Duncan_(pub)) were used by a far right fanatical bomber in various London locations. Terrorism is a problem across ethnic and political lines. So stop trying to make capital from people’s deaths.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/31 "2017-05-23T00:43:17Z")

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They may have found a undetonated explosive.

> **[Manchester Arena explosion: Children among dead in concert attack](https://news.sky.com/story/amp/confirmed-fatalities-in-manchester-arena-explosion-10889460)**
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> Outside Downing Street, the Prime Minister says many of the 59 people injured are being treated for "life-threatening conditions".

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> Greater Manchester Police are treating it as a possible terror attack and say there will be a controlled explosion taking place “shortly” at nearby Cathedral Gardens.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/32 "2017-05-23T00:45:08Z")

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nevermind

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/33 "2017-05-23T00:45:18Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> FFS. It should be obvious who I am talking to. The last major terrorist explosion in Manchester was the [IRA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing). [Nails and other shrapnel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Duncan_(pub)) were used by a far right fanatical bomber in various London locations. Terrorism is a problem across ethnic and political lines. So stop trying to make capital from people’s deaths.

Who are you replying to- just curious.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/34 "2017-05-23T00:47:33Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> FFS. It should be obvious who I am talking to. The last major terrorist explosion in Manchester was the [IRA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing). [Nails and other shrapnel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Duncan_(pub)) were used by a far right fanatical bomber in various London locations. Terrorism is a problem across ethnic and political lines. So stop trying to make capital from people’s deaths.

I’m curious too. Not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/35 "2017-05-23T00:53:05Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I’m curious too. Not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

The poster Esco who is assuming this is a Muslim attack and is directing anger toward all Muslims. I initially thought more than one poster was taking this line.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/36 "2017-05-23T00:56:51Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> They may have found a undetonated explosive.  
> [Manchester Arena explosion: Children among dead in concert attack | UK News | Sky News](https://www.google.com/amp/news.sky.com/story/amp/confirmed-fatalities-in-manchester-arena-explosion-10889460)

They’ll be treating every discarded crisp packet in the area as a suspected IED, for a while.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/37 "2017-05-23T00:57:41Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> The poster Esco who is assuming this is a Muslim attack and is directing anger toward all Muslims. I initially thought more than one poster was taking this line.

I’m disinclined to reiterate my personal speculation on the likely motive behind the bombing, but since I’m probably the closest thing in this thread to the additional poster(s) you mentioned, I’ll clarify that I’m absolutely _not_ angry towards “all Muslims”. Whoever decided to bomb a concert full of young people (regardless of what their religion was / wasn’t) is a grade-A shitbag. (s)he is the one I primarily feel anger towards.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/38 "2017-05-23T00:58:44Z")

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Let’s just wait to see what the investigation comes to. Between the IRA and nutjobs like Tim McVeigh and the Unibomber, there are many possibilities as to who is behind this. They’ll figure it out soon enough, until then let’s just hope the medical professionals can keep any more from dying.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/39 "2017-05-23T00:59:24Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> They’ll be treating every discarded crisp packet in the area as a suspected IED, for a while.

Yeah, easy to see how this might happen: 20,000 people flee a concert, dropping whatever bags / packages they might be holding along the way. Authorities arrive on scene and see discarded bag lying on ground, get jumpy because of possibility of multiple explosives, decide it’s better to blow the bag up rather than risk it.

ETA: apparently [it was abandoned clothing](https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866816910612103169)

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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explosions-at-manchester-arena-england/787243/40 "2017-05-23T01:06:07Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I’m disinclined to reiterate my personal speculation on the likely motive behind the bombing, but since I’m probably the closest thing in this thread to the additional poster(s) you mentioned, I’ll clarify that I’m absolutely _not_ angry towards “all Muslims”. Whoever decided to bomb a concert full of young people (regardless of what their religion was / wasn’t) is a grade-A shitbag. (s)he is the one I primarily feel anger towards.

Agreed.

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