# "Extra" ketchup means "more than could possibly be necessary"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 20, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622 "2008-11-20T07:07:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/21 "2008-11-20T15:09:57Z")

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> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#):
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> I like my steak fries with Ranch dressing.

Now that’s just not right.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/22 "2008-11-20T15:10:58Z")

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Fries should be eaten with mayonnaise - try getting that in a fast food place. If I insist I can sometimes get a single packet of mayonnaise or maybe even two. As far as I can tell there is no way to stop a burger joint from throwing 4-5 packets of catsup into every order of fries. Saying “no ketchup please” actually causes some burger employees brains to short out momentarily which just holds up the whole line.

If we all throw our ketchup packets into the drive through lane to be run over and spurted everywhere, then maybe someone will notice.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/23 "2008-11-20T15:40:27Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Fries should be eaten with mayonnaise - try getting that in a fast food place.

Mayo on fries makes baby Jesus/Buddha/Mohammad/Shiva/Richard Dawkins cry.

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**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/24 "2008-11-20T16:12:23Z")

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Why do they put ketchup in such small packets, anyway? I would think the tiny savings from the few people who only need one small packet would be offset by the high packaging cost. Even if I’m just eating a sandwich, I’ll often use more than one.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/25 "2008-11-20T16:14:04Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Mayo on fries makes baby Jesus/Buddha/Mohammad/Shiva/Richard Dawkins cry.

Tell them to stand back then, I don’t need the extra salt on my fries with mayo.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/26 "2008-11-20T16:16:45Z")

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I eat mayo on my Chic-Fil-A waffle fries. 😃

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/27 "2008-11-20T16:28:00Z")

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No, no, no. Mayo goes on the sandwich. The waffle fries need to be dipped in the Chick-Fil-A sauce that comes in the little tubs. Were you raised by wolves?

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/28 "2008-11-20T16:34:24Z")

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Wuh-huh? Chic-Fil-A waffle fries are awful. Use your allotted calorie intake[sup]\*[/sup] on one of their shakes instead.

I can tell my work in this thread is never going to be done.  
[sup]\*[/sup]Okay, nobody has enough allotted calories for a Chic-Fil-A milkshake. But still, nummy.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/29 "2008-11-20T17:26:45Z")

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The waffle fries aren’t bad, IMO. They’d be better with the red relish that Fuddrucker’s had many moons ago, but we have to work with what we’ve got.

But I agree on your evaluation of the inherent yumminess of their shakes.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/30 "2008-11-20T17:33:26Z")

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Well, in the spirit of trying to meet in the middle here, Chic-Fil-A fries are probably okay if you can catch them in that brief window between too-hot-to-eat and too-cold-to-enjoy. All fries have such a window, but this is an especially acute problem with C-F-A’s waffle fries for some reason. And of course you are correct about keeping them away from mayonaisse; in that way lies madness.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/31 "2008-11-20T17:36:59Z")

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> [@Borborygmi](#):
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> Well, in the spirit of trying to meet in the middle here, Chic-Fil-A fries are probably okay if you can catch them in that brief window between too-hot-to-eat and too-cold-to-enjoy. All fries have such a window, but this is an especially acute problem with C-F-A’s waffle fries for some reason. And of course you are correct about keeping them away from mayonaisse; in that way lies madness.

Mwahaahahhaaahahhaaaa! I have some on the way right now! And also some nuggets. Which will likewise get a mayo bath before ingestion.

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/32 "2008-11-20T17:46:31Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> No, no, no. Mayo goes on the sandwich.

Heretic! Nothing, nothing may sully the divine perfection of the Chic-Fil-A sandwich. Who are you to allow some condiment to compete for space with the holy pickle trinity in its place of honor atop the most sacred chicken? I’ll see you at the auto de fe.

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**Author:** ![zenith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zenith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zenith)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/33 "2008-11-20T17:48:16Z")

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What I hate is the tendency to put extra condiments on to “compensate” for your asking for one to be left off.

My wife doesn’t like dill pickle. In certain places “no pickle” needs to be accompanied by “normal everything else” if you don’t want a burger thoroughly drowned in ketchup, mayo, and mustard.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/34 "2008-11-20T17:50:52Z")

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Whatabirger has little [cups](http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h278/d0d0joe/random/SL370341.jpg) of ketchup. I think it’s Heinz, too - the only brand I buy.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/35 "2008-11-20T17:58:48Z")

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I don’t like pickles. Well, I don’t like pickle slices on my cheeseburgers, that is. So when I go through a drive-thru, I ask for a “double cheeseburger, ketchup only”.

After many, many years of research, I’m convinced that somewhere in the Burger King manual, the official definition of “ketchup only” is “The only thing the customer wants to taste is ketchup”. It took me awhile, but I’ve finally stopped special ordering. I’m going to have to open the burger and make adjustments to it anyway, and picking off a couple of pickles is less messy than trying to wipe off a eight ounces of ketchup.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/36 "2008-11-20T18:19:02Z")

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Why when you order a burger and fries telling them no pickles lettuce or tomato, why do they always stick a pickle on top of the bun or a large dill spear on the plate to make a puddle that soaks your fries and hamburger? I said no pickle but you put it on the plate and ruin half my fries by soaking them in pickle juice. the last place that did this has been going down hill and I don’t like it anymore. The last time they gave me my burger in soggy Texas toast. So no ketchup anymore, fries swimming in pickle juice, and a burger in soggy Texas toast. I haven’t had input for choosing where the dinner will be, but it’s hit the point where I’ll just ask to be left at some store while they eat.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/37 "2008-11-20T18:21:34Z")

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> [@Furious\_Marmot](#):
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> Heretic! Nothing, nothing may sully the divine perfection of the Chic-Fil-A sandwich. Who are you to allow some condiment to compete for space with the holy pickle trinity in its place of honor atop the most sacred chicken? I’ll see you at the auto de fe.

Bah! I’m definitely not Orthodox when it comes to chicken sandwiches. I like mine with mayo and a drizzling of Texas Pete hot sauce (which the local CFA has stopped carrying for some reason.)

On a slight side note: exactly what is Chick-Fil-A putting in their “BBQ Sauce?” Whatever it is, it’s vile.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/38 "2008-11-20T21:24:07Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Fries should be eaten with mayonnaise

You’re correct. However, when I go drive-through I eat right away in the car and can’t handle the extra machinations of dipping. Real burger place fries with mayo? Heaven.

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/39 "2008-11-20T21:32:59Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Mayo on fries makes baby Jesus/Buddha/Mohammad/Shiva/Richard Dawkins cry.

When I was 12, one of my friends turned me on to a 1 part ketchup/1 part mayo mix which I use on anything fried to this day.

mmmmmmmmm  
It looks like a pile of bloody pus, however :eek:

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extra-ketchup-means-more-than-could-possibly-be-necessary/473622/40 "2008-11-20T22:03:28Z")

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:: raises hand ::

I have a question.

When you look at the little ketchup packets, invariably they always say “_Extra Fancy_” on the label.

I mean, I’m all for decent style and shit, and just having “fancy” ketchup seems to be just a step above the “normal” ketchup–I consider it a treat. A nice touch, like a mint on a pillow, if you will. But then there’s “_extra_ fancy” ketchup. Like, just what makes it “extra” anyway? Do they add some more lycopene to the mix? Is it some extra dab of salt? Do they infuse the blood of the nonbelievers into the thing?

Normal ketchup is good enough for me. What’s with the “Extra Fancy” shit?

Tripler  
Besides, I prefer BBQ sauce on my fries with a little salt and pepper.

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