# EXTREMELY Violent, Pornographic, or In Really REALLY Poor Taste PC Games?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138 "2009-06-18T02:33:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/21 "2009-06-20T05:08:45Z")

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> [@Rin\_Twisted](#):
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> There was a now infamous game (I _think_ it was for PC) called _General Custer’s Revenge_, in which gamers played the eponymous General as he sprinted across a battlefield with a huge errection leading the way. His goal? The naked Native American woman tied to a stake on the other end of the screen.
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> I only wish I was making this up. I think the game’s practically won awards for the most racist, sexist, offensive game around.

I also don’t see what’s racist, sexist, or offensive about that. She may very well have requested that he tie her up first. Some girls are into that.

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**Author:** ![JonathanTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JonathanTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonathanTheRed)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/22 "2009-06-20T05:09:33Z")

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> [@Rin\_Twisted](#):
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> There was a now infamous game (I _think_ it was for PC)

I don’t think so. I’ve heard tell it was a bootleg Atari 2600 game, but _my_ memory tells me I had it for my Commodore 64.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/23 "2009-06-20T05:30:43Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> I remember reading one time about a duo of cute little blonde blue-eyed girls with a white-supremacist band called Prussian Blue, and how in their spare time they liked to play some kind of neo-Nazi computer game. But I can’t remember what it was called, and Google isn’t helping. All I remember was being quite disgusted by it at the time.

[Ethnic Cleansing?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing_(video_game))

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/24 "2009-06-20T05:44:38Z")

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> [@JonathanTheRed](#):
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> I don’t think so. I’ve heard tell it was a bootleg Atari 2600 game, but _my_ memory tells me I had it for my Commodore 64.

Yes, “Custer’s Revenge” was a 2600 game, as I mentioned upthread. The Angry Video Game Nerd featured it and several other early pornographic games in one of his shows.

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/25 "2009-06-20T08:33:32Z")

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Well for porn I had [Latex](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsKCqwdruhQ) the game in college. A point and click adventure where you were rewarded with porn clips. Terrible as a game and terrible as porn.

Anyway depending on how loosely you define ‘game’ there’s been thousands of porn games for PC (and that’s not including Japanese games).

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/26 "2009-06-20T09:03:12Z")

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> [@JonathanTheRed](#):
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> I don’t think so. I’ve heard tell it was a bootleg Atari 2600 game, but _my_ memory tells me I had it for my Commodore 64.

It wasn’t even “bootleg”. Atari 2600 development was a pretty interesting thing since it wasn’t that difficult to reverse engineer the code the system used (rather infamously two teens with an early cable based game service used it to create Bump n’ Jump) and a lot of former Atari coders got fed up with the company and set out to found their own development houses. The important bits for the cartridges and programmer weren’t protected by patents and so anyone could come along and make their own for relatively little cost. Consequently a few companies tried their hand at “pornography” though the quality of it is so low I don’t think we can really call it porn.

This whole market situation is generally considered to be one of the major factors in the crash of '84. When the Japanese manufacturers came in they protected their systems a bit more and set up licensing programs so that the market couldn’t get flooded again. (You’ll note that it didn’t stop Atari and a few others from reverse engineering Nintendo’s coding methods and releasing unlicensed titles but this time around the expense was much higher and the profits clearly weren’t there…)

The PC, of course, has none of that. Anyone with a free compiler and a few minutes of time can make a game and distribute it to anyone they want. There’s no centralization and so short of government controls no one is going to stop people from making anything.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/27 "2009-06-20T15:04:58Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> [Ethnic Cleansing?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing_(video_game))

Yep, I think that was the one. Thanks…I think. Ugh.

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**Author:** ![Rin\_Twisted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/82dd89/32.png) [@Rin\_Twisted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rin_Twisted)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/28 "2009-06-21T05:52:10Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I also don’t see what’s racist, sexist, or offensive about that. She may very well have requested that he tie her up first. Some girls are into that.

So true! Maybe Custer and his hapless lady friend were really just one of the country’s earliest S&M couples.

Sorry, **dzieger** , I missed your post the first time around. Thanks for the clarification- and the introduction to AVGN. I just spent half an hour at cinemassacre, cracking up the whole time.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/29 "2009-06-21T06:27:42Z")

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> [@Darkhold](#):
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> Well for porn I had [Latex](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsKCqwdruhQ) the game in college. A point and click adventure where you were rewarded with porn clips. Terrible as a game and terrible as porn.

Yeah, that pretty much sums up most adult-oriented PC games. Sounds nice in theory, because porn is stimulating right? But the best porn is simply porn. If what you want is an _interactive_ sexual experience, I would highly recommend sex.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/30 "2009-06-22T02:34:10Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> If what you want is an _interactive_ sexual experience, I would highly recommend sex.

Who produced that?

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/31 "2009-06-22T04:38:44Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> Who produced that?

Genesis, a subsidiary of IRL Studios Ltd.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/32 "2009-06-22T06:36:18Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> Genesis, a subsidiary of IRL Studios Ltd.

It’s the blast processing that makes it so good. 😛

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/33 "2009-06-22T06:41:06Z")

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> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#):
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> It’s the blast processing that makes it so good. 😛

I think I picked up an early release version. ☹

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/34 "2009-06-23T13:42:30Z")

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A lot of people thought _Carmaggeddon_ to be in pretty poor taste, but it looks tame compared to some upthread suggestions. And what about GTA - didn’t one of those involve selling someone’s daughter into prostitution? And there was the drug-selling ice cream van in one of them, too. OK, not exactly raping Native Americans, but caused plenty of outcry at the time all the same.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/35 "2009-06-24T02:05:18Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> A lot of people thought _Carmaggeddon_ to be in pretty poor taste, but it looks tame compared to some upthread suggestions. And what about GTA - didn’t one of those involve selling someone’s daughter into prostitution? And there was the drug-selling ice cream van in one of them, too. OK, not exactly raping Native Americans, but caused plenty of outcry at the time all the same.

I’ll admit I haven’t played any GTA game for any prolonged period of time, so my opinion may not be valid, but from what I’ve seen of it I’ve always taken it to be, at least on some level, a sort of affectionate parody/satire on the over the top sex/drugs/violence thing. Sort of a “okay, let’s pretend everything gangsta rappers talk about was commonplace and true” thing.

Edit: Though I suppose it’s still debatable even if my impression is true exactly how much leeway being a satire gives it in that department. In other words, is it still sick/too much if it’s doing it in (at least part) jest.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/36 "2009-06-24T14:12:42Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> There are plenty of weird porno games floating out there. Most notably “visual novels” from Japan that involve point and click adventuring culminating with a bunch of sex scenes.

Oppai Slider 2, for one.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extremely-violent-pornographic-or-in-really-really-poor-taste-pc-games/500138/37 "2009-06-24T15:26:38Z")

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> [@Astroboy14](#):
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> There’s always [Rapelay](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay).

Holy shit. I think that one wins if it really as bad as it sounds in your link.

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