# Extricating us from the Imbroglio: Repairing the Damage **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007 "2021-01-20T18:45:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/101 "2021-02-09T03:39:09Z")
I can’t help wondering how many of the children disappeared into the system wound up sold – to people desperate for adoptable babies/toddlers, or to other people more interested in, shall we say, exploitable bodies. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/102 "2021-02-11T22:50:01Z")
I’d be more worried about children who didn’t make it into the system, who disappeared somewhere en route. That’s where the traffickers can act and not get caught. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/103 "2021-02-12T01:35:20Z")
Good point. We’ll likely never know. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/104 "2021-02-25T19:40:10Z")
Maybe this thread is the heir of the Clusterfucks threads? > **[President Biden Revokes Trump's Controversial Classical Architecture Order](https://www.npr.org/2021/02/25/971312635/president-biden-revokes-trumps-controversial-classical-architecture-order)** > > The announcement from the White House was included in an executive order that revokes a number of Trump's actions as president. Trump had aimed to promote traditional design for federal buildings. > Arbiters of good taste often disagree. That is certainly true of architecture. > > Late Wednesday, President Biden revoked a [controversial](https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/948926995/keep-it-classical-says-trump-order-on-federal-architecture) executive order former President Trump signed in December called “Promoting Beautiful Federal Civic Architecture.” The announcement from The White House was included in an executive order that revoked a number of Trump’s actions as president. > > When Trump first proposed the executive order, it was clearly an out-with-the-new, in-with-the-old approach to architecture. He called modern federal buildings constructed over the last five decades (think boxy, concrete-heavy Brutalism) **“undistinguished,” “uninspiring” and “just plain ugly.”** > > While the specifics are not yet clear, Biden’s executive order instructs the director of the Office of Management and Budget and any related departments and agencies to “promptly consider taking steps to rescind any orders, rules, regulations, guidelines, or policies, or portions thereof” that would’ve implemented Trump’s actions. > … My bold. Trump calling something “undistinguished,” “uninspiring” and “just plain ugly”??? 🤣 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/105 "2021-02-25T19:45:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump calling something “undistinguished,” “uninspiring” and “just plain ugly”??? As they say, write what you know. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/106 "2021-02-25T21:00:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump calling something “undistinguished,” “uninspiring” and “just plain ugly”??? Trump is the King of Projection ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/107 "2021-02-25T21:13:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He called modern federal buildings constructed over the last five decades (think boxy, concrete-heavy Brutalism) **“undistinguished,” “uninspiring” and “just plain ugly.”** Once in a very long time Trump and I agree about something. I will however note the difference that even if I were in a position to do so I wouldn’t try to impose my personal architectural tastes on the entire nation. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/108 "2021-02-25T21:29:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Maybe this thread is the heir of the Clusterfucks threads? Perhaps, in part. I intended this thread to focus specifically on actions by Biden, and his entire administration, and Congress, and anyone else to undo or repair the damage of the Trump years. For other more forward-looking Biden action, or other non-Trump-related stuff in general, we have the “First 1500 Days” thread. OTOH, it seems Trump will remain in the news because of his on-going political noise-making (e.g., hijacking CPAC), and also because of all the legal activities surrounding him (e.g., those tax returns!) – We need another separate thread (most likely in the Pit) just for on-going Trump outrages and schadenfreude. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/109 "2021-02-25T21:43:26Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > on-going Trump outrages and schadenfreude Okay. I’ll start one. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/110 "2021-02-25T22:04:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Okay. I’ll start one. yay!! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/111 "2021-02-25T22:07:59Z")
🙂 Here 'tis. > [@Post CF and on-going Trump outrages](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746): > > Now that the c-fuck is well and truly over, we still need a place to hurl invective at the loser former president, since, like a case of herpes, he is never going away. I propose this thread to take over where the the earlier clusterfuck threads left off. Here’s a kickoff - the CPAC starts today. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/112 "2021-02-25T22:08:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Senegoid](#): > > > > on-going Trump outrages and schadenfreude   > > Okay. I’ll start one.   [And here it is!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746) Not even ETA: Oops. Ninja’d even as I was typing the above line! ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/113 "2021-02-26T11:59:50Z")
> outrages and schadenfreude The PR agency from hell. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/114 "2021-02-28T17:47:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > While the specifics are not yet clear, Biden’s executive order instructs the director of the Office of Management and Budget and any related departments and agencies to “promptly consider taking steps to rescind any orders, rules, regulations, guidelines, or policies, or portions thereof” that would’ve implemented Trump’s actions. There’s nothing in Biden’s order that prevents federal buildings from using classical architecture over modern. He just removed the requirements and any element of the agencies _forcing_ it. They can and probably should still consider the advice of the National Civic Art Society. However, they probably do need to be replaced by a more diverse membership. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007/115 "2021-02-28T18:08:11Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > He just removed the requirements and any element of the agencies _forcing_ it. So effectively, Biden has just _removed_ a government regulation that forced a stupid standard. I’m sure the usual suspects will applaud him for removing stupid regulations. (ha ha ha) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/extricating-us-from-the-imbroglio-repairing-the-damage/931007.md?page=5)