# Exuse me.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 21, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355 "2006-11-21T22:58:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/1 "2006-11-21T22:58:18Z")
…, could all males over 2m please stay at the back of any Iron Maiden consert where I am also present? Thank you. (No offence to males over 2m. The consert rocket anyway 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/2 "2006-11-21T23:12:52Z")
Ah yes, “Metal Concert Dudes”. Huge, tall, hairy, haven’t showered since the last tour but insist on raising both arms real high in the air so that their nose level armpits can shower the crowd with their own special brand of noxious love. Of course there are beers clutched in both paws that slop all over the place every time they throw out a triumphant “WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!”, which can be almost every thirty seconds, so hope that the stale beer smell can over waft the BO radiation eventually. That’s why I stay around the mosh pit. I’d rather take a literal fist in the nose than a figurative one. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/3 "2006-11-22T01:53:30Z")
Oookay. The only thing I objected to was their height. I met no foul-smelling folks at this concert. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/4 "2006-11-22T03:48:46Z")
I didn’t note your location until just now. Maybe the Metal Concert Dude is an American thing. Norway has it’s own type of [weird metal dudes.](http://images2.deviantart.com/i/2004/02/2/7/Gorgoroth.jpg). I’ll stick with bigfoot. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/5 "2006-11-22T04:14:07Z")
Well, just concerts in _general_, I think. Nothing wrong with a standing ovation, but when the artist comes back out to do an encore, could you sit your asses back down please? Had great seats for John Prine at The Fox last year, and that very thing happened to me and my date. She went above and beyond the call when she didn’t cancel on me because of a twisted ankle, but she couldn’t put weight on it to stand for very long when John came out to favor us with a few more tunes. I tried to explain to the guy in front of us to no avail, so my date stood up and pulled the guy’s cowboy hat down past his ears, grabbed my hand and we left. It was a great concert, but I think I enjoyed her company and what she did just as much. Q ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/6 "2006-11-22T14:50:14Z")
That’s a picture of a “weird” matal dude? Looks like a slightly exagerated picture of a perfectly normal metal dude who spent some time putting one fineries. What the hell kind of metal you got in 'Merica? Oh, and **Quasimodem**? Metal Concert=no seats. You get a tall in front of you, you’ll have to scramble around him, or you won’t see anything at all. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/7 "2006-11-22T16:29:35Z")
Tall _guy_. Preview is my friend… Oh, and by perfectly normal, I meant besides the needles on his left arm. You may find long metal studs on clothing or armbands, but never anything sharp. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/8 "2006-11-22T16:39:37Z")
I used to be the chick on that guy’s shoulders. Works for me! ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/9 "2006-11-23T19:34:13Z")
You do realise that plenty of people probably hate you, right? Wish I could do that, though… ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/10 "2006-11-23T19:44:12Z")
[QUOTE=Septima] You get a tall in front of you [/QUOTE] As a gentleman of the shorter persuasion, I rather like that neologism you’ve just coined. “Fuck off out my way, you _tall_ (or I’ll bite your kneecaps).” ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/11 "2006-11-24T02:52:13Z")
2… _m_? What is that, does it have something to do with the quadratic formula? Oh, I see what you’re saying now. I think you meant “all males over 6’5”(ish)". 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/12 "2006-11-24T02:56:33Z")
Oops, looks like that’s almost 6’7". See, I told you meters mean nothing to us. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/13 "2006-11-24T03:24:33Z")
[QUOTE=Septima] That’s a picture of a “weird” matal dude? Looks like a slightly exagerated picture of a perfectly normal metal dude who spent some time putting one fineries. [/QUOTE] [Is this one](http://immortal.battlegrim.net/files/wallpapers/immortal-wallpaper06.jpg) better? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/14 "2006-11-24T04:47:58Z")
As one of those “talls” I feel the need to step in here and point out that largely I am aware of the fact that I make a better door than a window. I purposefully stand towards the back or off to the sides for this reason. In classrooms I used to sit towards the back so I didn’t block people’s views of the whiteboards. That being said… sometimes we just need to be closer or more centered. Sorry for the inconvenience. However, if it starts to rain, I’ll let you know. – IG ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/15 "2006-11-24T10:45:54Z")
…and whatever you people use to measure height means nothing to me. 2m=extremely tall, but not unaturally so. And yes, my boyfriend just confirmed thats that’s something like 6’7". **KGS** , in all fairness, that’s a picture of a band, not your average concert-goer. Normal attire for a true metal-fan (reffered to as metalheads), is black clothes, band t-shirt, black leather armguards, belt and collar with bright metal studs and long hair (of any colour). Variations include huge beards, appropriate jewellery and/or make-up. They look like goths without the angsty vibe. But yeah, that would be “weirder” metal dudes. I still won’t call them “weird”. 😉 **Improv Geek** , that’s very considerate of you. Off course, you have the same right as everybody else to stand wherever you like, at concerts or other places. This was a polite request, not a pitting. And I will now be unable to think of **jjimm** as anything other than a pissed-off halfling. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/16 "2006-11-24T11:16:26Z")
[QUOTE=Septima] And I will now be unable to think of **jjimm** as anything other than a pissed-off halfling. 😃 [/QUOTE] I was sort of thinking about one of Pratchets gnomes, Wee Mad Arthur f’rex =) ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/17 "2006-11-24T19:28:31Z")
[QUOTE=Septima] **Improv Geek** , that’s very considerate of you. Off course, you have the same right as everybody else to stand wherever you like, at concerts or other places. This was a polite request, not a pitting. [/QUOTE] Oh I know man, but I do get asked to move or shift quite frequently. As a whole I tend to try and be accommodating of others. – Patrick ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/18 "2006-11-24T20:37:53Z")
[QUOTE=Septima] …and whatever you people use to measure height means nothing to me. 2m=extremely tall, but not unaturally so. And yes, my boyfriend just confirmed thats that’s something like 6’7". [/QUOTE] Now, I’m not that tall (about 6’1", or about 1.85 for you), but I’ve often gotten complaints for being tall or broad and being in the front, and I’m ALWAYS in the very front. I enjoy the front the most because its got the most energy and its the most “concert” experience… if I’m going to be standing in the back, I might as well get the tour DVD and watch it at home. Many of those I often see in the front who are taller share a similar sentiment. You might catch me in the pit if its a festival or I really don’t care for the band that’s playing, but you will never find me anywhere else unless I’m just too tired to deal with the crowd surges. Besides, if you’re in the back, is someone who really has that couple of extra inches (or cms) really affecting your ability to see the happenings on the stage? I submit that they do not. Even in the few cases where there has been someone a lot taller than me right in front of me (because I hadn’t fought my way to the front yet), I’ll just shift a bit to one side or the other and I can see between his shoulders. > [@](#): > > **KGS** , in all fairness, that’s a picture of a band, not your average concert-goer. Normal attire for a true metal-fan (reffered to as metalheads), is black clothes, band t-shirt, black leather armguards, belt and collar with bright metal studs and long hair (of any colour). Variations include huge beards, appropriate jewellery and/or make-up. They look like goths without the angsty vibe. > > But yeah, that would be “weirder” metal dudes. I still won’t call them “weird”. 😉 As an American, I have to agree and say that those pics aren’t very weird; that’s pretty much MO for the whole black metal scene (granted, its much stronger in Scandanavia than else where). Here in the US, its generally a bit more toned down, because most metal heads don’t want to get lumped in with the whole mall-goth trend. FYI, for any metal heads who DO like to wear studs, stay away from the sharp stuff, or you might get whooped. Just on Friday I was at a Doom concert (Moonspell, Katatonia, Daylight Dies), and some jerk in the crowd had sharp spikes on his arm (much like the first picture), if he hadn’t left the crowd the moment he poked me and I went off on him verbally, I would have gone off on him physically. Metal is supposed to have a sense of brotherhood, which means you’re not gonna wear stuff that might hurt someone, though that seems to have declined significantly in the last couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exuse-me/381355/19 "2006-11-24T22:47:32Z")
[QUOTE=Blaster Master] Besides, if you’re in the back, is someone who really has that couple of extra inches (or cms) really affecting your ability to see the happenings on the stage? I submit that they do not [/QUOTE] Wrong there, bucko. I’m six cm shorter than you. That means I’m tall, since I’m a girl, but I’m preciselly average height for men. Since the metal crowd is predominently male, I’ll be right flush with the average height-level of the audience. Which means that a tall person directly in front of will block _the entire stage_ from my view. If I’m in the back, thats not a problem, I’ll just move. However, the idea for this thread occured to me while I was standing in the middle of the tight packed crowd, and got a tall in front of me. I try moving to one side, and meet a massive wall of resistence. People were packed like fish in a barrel, and were not going to move for me. So I had to painfully inch around this person, following the minute shifting of the audience. It took me most of the first couple of songs to do this. So yeah, he did affect my ability to see what was happening on the stage. What do you want me to do, get violent? Speaking of violence, you actually met someone with sharp studs? The hell!? I didn’t even know that existed. What a creep.