# Exxon On The Run turns down money **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 5, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293 "2012-07-05T10:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/21 "2012-07-06T02:46:07Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > FWIW: I also thought this had been started by **even sven** , although I’m not familiar enough with the poster in question to be all _that_ confused. You should be. You have much to learn from **sven**. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/22 "2012-07-06T03:01:47Z")
To hear her tell it, _everybod_– Nah. Too snarky. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/23 "2012-07-06T03:06:09Z")
I hate it when I don’t get my free stuff for free. I am entitled to free ounces of craptastic soda that kills me. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/24 "2012-07-06T03:47:38Z")
So many retards in this thread. OP rightly, and justly, complains of bait and switch false advertising. Meanwhile all the retards come running in to try to insult the OP to try to feel better about themselves. It hit 100 degrees today. Not salty, dry piss in the dust Arizona 100 degrees. Great Lakes area, so fucking humid, you’re being steam cooked alive in your own savory juices 100 degrees. I don’t know where the OP lives but if it’s anything like we’re getting, then 12 extra ounces of cold, refreshing, soda would be fucking divine in the heat. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/25 "2012-07-06T03:49:03Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I hate it when I don’t get my free stuff for free. I am entitled to free ounces of craptastic soda that kills me. Did you post in the wrong thread? The OP is about a store using bait and switch, and not honoring its advertisements. ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/26 "2012-07-06T03:50:26Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Finally, who the hell can drink 44 ounces of sweet, sugary crap in one sitting? Jesus! Would it make a difference to you if it were diet? And one sitting can be over an hour of driving down the road. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/27 "2012-07-06T04:44:41Z")
> [@Lanzy](#): > > Would it make a difference to you if it were diet? And one sitting can be over an hour of driving down the road. For a non-USer, is it correct that 44oz is around 1.3L? If so, I am equally gobsmacked, that seems like a tremendous amount. Now admittedly I’m a small female, but the most I think I could get through in an hour is around about 500ml, which is roughly what the standard drink bottles are here. More than an hour, and I would have thought it would be too warm and flat? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/28 "2012-07-06T06:56:03Z")
> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > For a non-USer, is it correct that 44oz is around 1.3L? That depends: > [@](#): > > the mass of an imperial fluid ounce of water is one avoirdupois ounce (28.4 g) The US ounce is based on the earlier definition of one gallon equalling 231 cubic inches. This measurement at first glance does not seem to have any tie to mass, however it is believed[by whom?] to have come from a previous measure of a gallon as being 224 cubic inches (just 7 cubic inches less, both numbers being multiples of 7) which was used because it was the exact volume of 8 pounds of wine.[1] Thus one pint of a wine gallon is equal to the volume of one pound of wine, and there are 16 fluid ounces in a pint, just as there are 16 ounces in a pound. Subdivisions of the US gallon are similar to those of the imperial gallon the difference being that there are only four ounces to the gill (sixteen to the pint or 128 to the gallon). Thus the US fluid ounce is about 4% larger than the imperial ounce. And it’s that whole silliness which brings me to this impassioned plea: Dear Americans, Could you please move to a volume measurement system that isn’t only actually correct for one particular fluid? Please? I mean, you don’t have to to go to litres, you can have pints if you prefer…but seriously, there’s a reason no-one else uses the whole “volume defined as weight” system anymore. Your cooperation, very much, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/29 "2012-07-06T07:37:41Z")
> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > For a non-USer, is it correct that 44oz is around 1.3L? If so, I am equally gobsmacked, that seems like a tremendous amount. Now admittedly I’m a small female, but the most I think I could get through in an hour is around about 500ml, which is roughly what the standard drink bottles are here. More than an hour, and I would have thought it would be too warm and flat? When I get a fountain drink I put ice in it. Somebody who likes a lot of ice might get less than half actual soft drink in the cup. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/30 "2012-07-06T07:44:24Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > .but seriously, there’s a reason no-one else uses the whole “volume defined as weight” system anymore. That’s what I am saying! Blame Bloomberg. He’s the guy that’s saying fluid volume ounces of soda puts on weight. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/31 "2012-07-06T08:01:38Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Dear Americans, > > Could you please move to a volume measurement system that isn’t only actually correct for one particular fluid? No. By law, the problem you refer to does not exist in this context. > [@](#): > > (viii) For nutrition labeling purposes, a teaspoon means 5 milliliters (mL), a tablespoon means 15 mL, a cup means 240 mL, 1 fl oz means 30 mL, and 1 oz in weight means 28 g. [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21](http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21) ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/32 "2012-07-06T10:43:28Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > No. > > By law, the problem you refer to does not exist in this context. > > [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21](http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21) However, this is not “nutrition labeling”, so that law would not seem to apply here. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/33 "2012-07-06T11:15:19Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > However, this is not “nutrition labeling”, so that law would not seem to apply here. It does, because serving size is considered a nutritional label. > [@](#): > > . For beverages, a manufacturer may use fluid ounces. > [@](#): > > 8 fluid ounces for beverages may be used as the standard serving size for purposes of nutrition labeling of foods subject to this paragraph [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21](http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/34 "2012-07-06T11:28:51Z")
And just for good measure, the law also includes this tidbit: see what I did there? > [@](#): > > (7) Compliance will be based on the metric measure specified in the label statement of serving size. emphasis mine [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21](http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21) ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/35 "2012-07-06T11:31:54Z")
Just out of curiosity, how much did they WANT to charge you for your 44 oz drink? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/36 "2012-07-06T17:16:56Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > No. > > By law, the problem you refer to does not exist in this context. > > [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21](http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.6&idno=21) SO JUST USE THE BLOODY UNITS THAT YOU’VE HAD TO DEFINE THE OTHERS BY FOR FECK’S SAKE. Seriouly, how stupid is this. A unit of measurement so flawed it as to be underpinned by reference to a better one? Just use the one that isn’t crap. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/37 "2012-07-06T17:22:43Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > SO JUST USE THE BLOODY UNITS THAT YOU’VE HAD TO DEFINE THE OTHERS BY FOR FECK’S SAKE. > > Seriouly, how stupid is this. A unit of measurement so flawed it as to be underpinned by reference to a better one? Just use the one that isn’t crap. The amount of times it has created a problem for me is zero. I think most Americans are similar to me in this regard (I realise that some who work in science or engineering may not be in the same boat here, although I’m honestly not quite sure). But since they work just fine, and seem to drive other people crazy - I vote to keep using them, ya know - for the lulz. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/38 "2012-07-06T18:49:35Z")
You know, the title of this thread misled me, had a vision of Exxon running ragged through the swamps, bloodhounds baying in the distance… Damn. ---
**Author:** ![ScarletNumber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@ScarletNumber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScarletNumber)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/39 "2012-07-06T19:39:40Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Just out of curiosity, how much did they WANT to charge you for your 44 oz drink? 99c, the price they charge for any refill. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293/40 "2012-07-06T21:33:50Z")
> [@Absolute](#): > > Any pitting that complains about some injustice involving a dollar amount less than $1.00 is automatically lame. Who even bothers to check whether their big gulp rings up for $0.80 or $1.20? Someone who is not rich enough to just throw away money, nor stupid enough to think that small amounts of money don’t matter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/exxon-on-the-run-turns-down-money/627293.md?page=3)