# Eye-ran? Kiss my grits, Wolfie.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500 "2002-12-09T13:50:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/61 "2002-12-10T01:17:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LaurAnge \*  
> \*\*I thnik ih-rawn and ee-rawn are the same, **beagledave**. \*\*

huh?

“ih” is a short "i"sound like the “i” in hiccup

“ee” is a long sound like the “ee” in jeep.

How are they the same?

😕

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/62 "2002-12-10T01:37:42Z")

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😕

Am I the only American who grew up saying “Ih-rahn” instead of “Eye-ran”?

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**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/63 "2002-12-10T05:15:45Z")

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Don’t call if Frisco…

But, really folks, if you are gonna hate somebody, shouldn’t you at least know how to pronounce their name?

I wonder how that “Ugly American” thing came about…

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/64 "2002-12-10T07:58:28Z")

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Hello Aotearoa! Do you have Maori names for all the places in the Land of the Long White Cloud now?

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/65 "2002-12-10T08:13:05Z")

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Blame John Denver for the fact that I’ve always thought it was Col-or-ah-do…

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/66 "2002-12-10T08:38:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by anya marie \*  
> \*\*Hello Aotearoa! Do you have Maori names for all the places in the Land of the Long White Cloud now? \*\*

Virtually all placenames in New Zealand either _are_ derived from the Maori language, _Te Reo Maori_, or are European-derived, but with accompanying original Maori name.

Auckland, for example, is also known as Tamaki Makaurau.

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/67 "2002-12-10T09:09:51Z")

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Sorry it’s taken so long to get back. I’m in a different time zone and was asleep.

Again, no, I’m sure even though I’m American, I don’t pronounce everything correctly all the time. But then, I’m not an international news reporter either.

I agree, this is a mild rant. It just annoyed me and I wanted to get it out. I hope that at least a few people have learned the correct pronunciation of a few new places.

Re: the foreign language (Farsi) text

Didn’t know of that rule. My apologies. He was just passing nicities with me and told me that he lived in Iran for one year (IIRC). I said his Farsi was good and asked where exactly he lived. Small talk really. I shan’t do it again.

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**Author:** ![DaToad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@DaToad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaToad)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/68 "2002-12-10T16:28:51Z")

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Thanks **Derleth**. It certainly wasn’t my intention to be a jerk. My apology to anyone offended.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/69 "2002-12-10T16:51:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GuanoLad \*  
> \*\*I seem to recall a period in the early 90s where every second person pronounced Saddam Hussein’s name differently. And probably none of them were the way a true Iraqi would say it.  
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Shocking thing I learned when I took Arabic: the person who’d been saying “Saddam” right all along was _George Bush_! It really IS “Sa-DAM.” The long a sound that most people use is wrong.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/70 "2002-12-10T17:11:24Z")

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Those announcers are so trendy. The usual American pronunciation for the adjective for that big country in South America used to be “AR-jen-_teen_” until they heard a few BBC announcers during the Falklands War. Now, American “reporters” say “AR-jen-_tyne_” too. Snootiness knows no borders.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/71 "2002-12-10T18:27:45Z")

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Huh. IMHO, the most common word used here is “Argentinian”.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eye-ran-kiss-my-grits-wolfie/141500/72 "2002-12-10T18:52:41Z")

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That’s the noun. I was referring to the adjective.

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