# F bomb leads to jail in South Carolina? WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 16, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704 "2014-08-16T19:30:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/1 "2014-08-16T19:30:01Z")
Wow, free speach just went down the shitter in South Carolina. Danielle Wolf says she was shopping with her family at a Kroger supermarket when her husband squashed a loaf of bread with some other groceries. She apparently use the F word when setting her husband straight over his carelessness. A woman, confronted her accusing her of using that word in front of her children. The cops get called. etc. etc. No one shot though. The entire incident led to her arrest, being handcuffed and charges of disorderly conduct. > **[Mom faces disorderly conduct charge for dropping F-bomb while shopping with kids](https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/mom_faces_disorderly_conduct_charge_for_dropping_f-bomb_while_shopping_with/)** > > The ABA Journal is read by half of the nation's 1 million lawyers every month. It covers the trends, people and finances of the legal profession from Wall Street to Main Street to Pennsylvania Avenue. Just had to check, yep, South Carolina is a red state. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/2 "2014-08-16T19:34:18Z")
I’m sure that’s exactly how it happened. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/3 "2014-08-16T19:54:35Z")
[Cohen v California](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California) (as explained by Wikipedia) suggests that a Motion to Dismiss should be granted. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/4 "2014-08-16T22:31:02Z")
I hate hearing a loud obnoxious potty mouth in public. Especially in front of kids. It’s not disorderly conduct imho. Arresting someone seems a bit extreme for being obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/5 "2014-08-16T22:36:13Z")
For your information, the Supreme Court has ROUNDLY REJECTED PRIOR RESTRAINT! ---
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/6 "2014-08-16T23:41:13Z")
I have a curiosity question. The grocery store isn’t a government entity, so if they are the ones filing the complaint, is it still a first amendment violation? It’s a shitty thing to do, but I think it’s different than the wiki case which took place on government property. ---
**Author:** ![la\_fille\_intellectuelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f04885/32.png) [@la\_fille\_intellectuelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/la_fille_intellectuelle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/7 "2014-08-16T23:45:43Z")
This country has gone to pot (in the case of California,LITERALLY) & I’m ashamed to be an American.All our freedoms are slowly being stripped away yet NOW some will wake up. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/8 "2014-08-17T00:58:35Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > I’m sure that’s exactly how it happened. If you’d taken about 30 seconds to read the police report before your self-righteous pronouncement, you’d see that it is, in fact, pretty much exactly how it happened. The police report itself basically confirms the story. The only difference between the police report and the newspaper article is that, according to the police report, the woman was reported to be swearing directly at her children. The woman herself says, in the newspaper article, that she was swearing at her husband. Apart from that, it appears to have happened exactly as the OP described it. Here’s the description of events taken directly from the [police report](http://ftpcontent5.worldnow.com/wjbf/assets/Documents/PDF/MotherArrestedForCursingAtChildReport_Redacted.pdf) (PDF): > [@](#): > > ON THE ABOVE DATE AND TIME OFFICER SMITH MET WITH THE COMPLAINANT [REDACTED], AT KROGER IN REFERENCE TO A SUBJECT USING PROFANE LANGUAGE TOWARDS THE SUBJECT’S CHILDREN. [REDACTED] STATED THAT WHILE SHOPPING IN THE STORE SHE OBSERVED A WHITE FEMALE YELLING AT HER CHILDREN. [REDACTED] STATED THAT SHE FURTHER HEARD THE FEMALE TELL THE CHILDREN TO “STOP SQUISHING THE FUCKING BREAD”. [REDACTED] STATED THAT SHE HEARD THE FEMALE USE SIMILAR PHRASES MULTIPLE TIMES. [REDACTED] STATED THAT SHE APPROACHED THE FEMALE AND REQUESTED THAT SHE NOT USE THAT LANGUAGE TOWARDS HER CHILDREN. OFFICER SMITH ASKED [REDACTED] IF SHE WISHED TO TESTIFY IN COURT ABOUT THE INCIDENT. [REDACTED] STATED THAT SHE WOULD. > > OFFICER SMITH LOCATED THE SUBJECT AND IDENTIFIED HER AS DANIELLE WOLF. MS WOLF STEPPED OUTSIDE WITH OFFICER SMITH. MS WOLF ADVISED THAT SHE HAD TOLD HER CHILDREN TO “STOP SQUISHING THE FUCKING BREAD”. OFFICER SMITH ADVISED MS WOLF THAT SHE WAS UNDER ARREST FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT. MS WOLF WAS HANDCUFFED BEHIND THE BACK WITH THE HANDCUFFS BEING DOUBLE LOCKED AND CHECKED FOR PROPER FIT. MS WOLF WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE BOOKING ROOM WHERE THE BOOKING PROCEDURES WERE COMPLETED. MS WOLF WAS TRANSPORTED IN THE REAR CAGED AREA OF CAR 176. THE REAR CAGED AREA OF CAR 176 WAS SEARCHED BEFORE AND AFTER TRANSPORT FOR CONTRABAND WITH NO CONTRABAND BEING LOCATED. MS WOLF WAS ISSUED A CITATION FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT AND RELEASED ON A COURTESY SUMMONS. MS SMITH WAS ISSUED A WITNESS SUMMONS BUT REFUSED TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT. NOTHING ELSE FOLLOWS. So, basically Woman A swears at (or in front of; it’s still not clear) her children. Woman B reports this to police. Woman A is arrested for disorderly conduct. Whether or not this arrest holds up legally, i think it’s complete bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/9 "2014-08-17T01:46:44Z")
Well, what I want to know is - Did they stop squishing the fuckin’ bread? Did a random passerby also buy up all the bread to teach someone a lesson? ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/10 "2014-08-17T02:28:51Z")
FTR, I think of both Carolinas as the Buckle of the Bible Belt. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/11 "2014-08-17T02:37:17Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > FTR, I think of both Carolinas as the Buckle of the Bible Belt. My South Carolina born and bred friend used to like to semi-affectionately refer to his home state as “south of Jesse Helms”\* :D. - Helps to know who [Jesse Helms](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Helms) was, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/12 "2014-08-17T03:43:55Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Well, what I want to know is - > > Did they stop squishing the fuckin’ bread? > > Did a random passerby also buy up all the bread to teach someone a lesson? And was his name Whipple? ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/13 "2014-08-17T04:02:34Z")
> [@Flywheel](#): > > For your information, the Supreme Court has ROUNDLY REJECTED PRIOR RESTRAINT! Fucking amateurs! ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/14 "2014-08-17T04:27:59Z")
It is actually illegal to curse in public in Trinidad, police here use this law much like police in the USA use disorderly conduct as a catch all arrest whoever I want thing. Trinidad wtfisms.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/15 "2014-08-17T13:27:59Z")
> [@la\_fille\_intellectuelle](#): > > This country has gone to pot (in the case of California,LITERALLY) & I’m ashamed to be an American.All our freedoms are slowly being stripped away yet NOW some will wake up. Obscenity laws used to be enforced a lot more frequently. So if you think cases like this are stripping us of our freedom, then it seems clear that things are getting better rather than worse. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/16 "2014-08-18T18:14:03Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Obscenity laws used to be enforced a lot more frequently. So if you think cases like this are stripping us of our freedom, then it seems clear that things are getting better rather than worse. Ah, but anything that makes current times seem worse than past times is Correct, and anything which does the opposite is Liberal Claptrap. It’s a strange form of Political Correctness which seems to afflict the more conservative members of our society. It stereotypically hits the older, but that isn’t the whole story. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/17 "2014-08-18T18:21:23Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Ah, but anything that makes current times seem worse than past times is Correct, and anything which does the opposite is Liberal Claptrap. I admit to not really knowing offhand what **Simplicio** ’s political bent is, but it did not seem to me that he (?) was suggesting that this incident was somehow acceptable or “correct.” He was simply observing—quite correctly, as it happens—that obscenity laws are not enforced with anything like the frequency and rigidity that they used to be. I’m a left-liberal who has already said that i think it was ridiculous that this woman was arrested for cursing, but this sort of arrest is, in modern times, much more unlikely and unusual that it would have been fifty or sixty years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/18 "2014-08-18T18:32:02Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I admit to not really knowing offhand what **Simplicio** ’s political bent is, but it did not seem to me that he (?) was suggesting that this incident was somehow acceptable or “correct.” I was being sarcastic, as I thought my second paragraph made clear. I fully agree with **Simplico**. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/19 "2014-08-18T18:41:00Z")
Sorry. I’m in the processor of recalibrating my sarcasm detector. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704/20 "2014-08-18T19:35:08Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > . . . A woman, confronted her accusing her of using that word in front of her children. The cops get called. etc. etc. No one shot though. . . . Well, this is a little early in the case, still. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-bomb-leads-to-jail-in-south-carolina-wtf/695704.md?page=2)