# F$&\*&cking Clay Aiken F%^%^\*cking Fanclub

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 15, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892 "2006-09-15T22:19:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/21 "2006-09-16T03:43:58Z")

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[QUOTE=psychobunny]  
**yes, I’m talking to you with the Air Supply CD in the back of your closet**  
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I dunno… it’s one thing to occassionaly jam to Transformers the Movie: Sountrack, but it’s quite another to pay money to talk about it online with peers…

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/22 "2006-09-16T03:48:16Z")

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[QUOTE=psychobunny]

**yes, I’m talking to you with the Air Supply CD in the back of your closet**  
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Clay needed the company.

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**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/23 "2006-09-16T06:59:38Z")

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[QUOTE=psychobunny]  
Poor deluded one. Don’t you know that Clay’s fanbase is middle-aged women who think of him like the son they wish they’d had?  
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You wish you had a creepy psycho stalker for a son?

[QUOTE=Clay Aiken]  
If I was invisible  
Then I could just watch you in your room  
If I was invincible  
I’d make you mine tonight

[/QUOTE]

😉

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/24 "2006-09-16T11:00:26Z")

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[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird]  
_Pretty_ sure? I’m _pretty_ sure the moon’s not going to land on my head while I sleep tonight. Clay’s gayness, however, is absolute.  
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That’s putting it mildly. However, [some people are in violent denial.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356166)

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/25 "2006-09-16T11:09:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
If he ever admits to being gay, has he comitted fraud, ala Milli Vanilli, to the thousands of young teenage girls (99% of his fan base) who buy his albums because they are in love with them and think, maybe, one day, if they meet that Clay will marry them? Obviously if he ever comes out it will be career suicide, and him staying in the closet makes perfect sense, but what about the 12 year olds he is not being honest with?  
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I wonder about that too, except change “young teenage girls” to “Jesus-bracelet wearing, homeschooling/ed, fundies”, since, if I understand correctly, they outnumber star-struck tweens in his fan base. **If** he’s gay (I don’t agree that it’s “absolute”, but who knows), will they reject him, **or** , will it inspire them to (greater) tolerance of homosexuals?

I mean, I spent an evening a couple years ago looking at one of his fan sites. MIL wanted to watch Miss America (she knew somebody who knew somebody who was related to Miss West Virginia, who unfortunately didn’t even place) and His Clayness performed. So I decided to check and see what comments the Claymates had, and they were **livid** , on account of while he was singing “There She Is…” the network ran a voiceover about upcoming shows and you couldn’t hear him. I mean, they were composing irate letters to the producers, and condemning the pageant and who knows what all. Then I checked out some other threads, and it was scary. Summing it up was a thread in which one poster suggested that the other fans ease back and stop doing stuff like hold their baby up at meet’n’greets so Clay could touch it as if he was going to heal it, and following the tour bus to the hotel, and so forth. Either she or someone else said, “C’mon, guys; he wasn’t born in a manger!”

So my **point** is, if he did come out, assuming he has someplace to come out from, which would upset their worldview less: rejecting him entirely, or admitting the possibility that a person can still have all the supermessiah qualities they think he has and be gay at the same time?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/26 "2006-09-16T11:54:40Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
You would not be the first to make that comparison…  
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As they say about TV reruns, if you didn’t catch it on the first go-round, it’s new to you. Believe it or not, I’ve never given Clay Aiken (or his sexuality, or his career, or his messiahlike abilities to heal) a whole lot of thought.

Anyway, I just find it sociologically interesting, that the same thing should recur 50 years or so later, what that says about us as a society.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/27 "2006-09-16T13:37:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Has he ever denied being gay? Just wondering.  
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From his Wikipedia article, and damn you for leading me to look it up:

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> Aiken has been the subject of gay jokes by Conan O’Brien, Kathy Griffin, and Mad TV, among others. While a few communities among his internet fan sites speculate about his sexual orientation, many do not. In an interview with Rolling Stone in July 2003 Aiken stated that he is not gay. When he appeared as the musical guest on Saturday Night Live on February 7, 2004, he lampooned such speculation in the opening monologue, which featured him as a member of a gay men’s chorus. Aiken has also been the subject of tabloid speculation and in early 2006, The National Enquirer launched a new series of tabloid stories alleging proof of a liaison with another man. Aiken describes the jokes and gossip as “…like having a gnat in your nose. You just want to kill it. It becomes unfortunately a negative part of what you do, and you need to kind of live with it. But if you could get up your nose and kill it, you would do it.”

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/28 "2006-09-16T13:44:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
From his Wikipedia article, and damn you for leading me to look it up:  
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Ouch. Sorry. I owe you one. Next gnat extraction is on me.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/29 "2006-09-16T15:41:09Z")

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I think Clay Aiken has a great voice. There, I’ve said it.

I am not crazy about the material he does on his records (er, CDs) but his voice is awesome.

I’m 41, married, and don’t care if he’s gay or not.

I have a lot of embarrassing stuff in my music collection, and shan’t cast stones.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/30 "2006-09-16T23:22:24Z")

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I only read the fan sites for amusement. Most of the internet fans scare me. However, I think that the majority of people who secretly listen to Clay’s music really don’t care if he’s gay. BTW, his new CD comes out on 9/19, if you happen to like covers of cheesy 1980’s power ballads (like me). Oh, and I only joined the fan club to get better concert tickets.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/31 "2006-09-17T00:13:26Z")

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And all the while, Ruben Studdard is howling “But _Ah_ won Idol, not that little cracker fairy! _Ah_ won! Where’s \*mah \* fan club?” Well, between gasps for breath and mouthfuls of barbecue, that is.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/32 "2006-09-17T04:02:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Clay Aiken, via Mishell]  
If I was invisible  
Then I could just watch you in your room  
If I was invincible  
I’d make you mine tonight  
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If he was invisible…wait, he already is! Watch out, **psychobunny**! He’s gonna kill you for saying that about his fellow Claymates!

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**Author:** ![slaphead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@slaphead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slaphead)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/33 "2006-09-18T12:15:46Z")

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[QUOTE=psychobunny]  
Poor deluded one. Don’t you know that Clay’s fanbase is middle-aged women who think of him like the son they wish they’d had?  
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You mean he’s [Eoin McLove](http://www.tv.com/father-ted/night-of-the-nearly-dead/episode/52904/summary.html) from Father Ted?

[QUOTE=Eoin McLove]  
Go away! I don’t want to catch menopause!  
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/34 "2006-09-18T13:15:25Z")

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Is it okay to dislike Clay Aiken because he (or rather a metric shitload of psycho Claymates) made it in-fucking-possible to go to my Brother-in-law’s graduation?

Oh yeah, I also think he looks like a poor man’s Martin Short.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/35 "2006-09-18T13:47:49Z")

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I saw Clay Aiken sing the national anthem at a NASCAR race (either in '05 or '04).

I still consider that pretty odd.

I’d be interested in seeing just how much money some of psychobunny’s fellow psychos ran through. . .“Gotta get it renewed. Gotta get it renewed. Gotta get it renewed NOW, goddammit. I’m at my LIMIT??? FUCK. I just blew my chances with Clay.”

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/36 "2006-09-18T18:44:48Z")

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[QUOTE=slaphead]  
You mean he’s [Eoin McLove](http://www.tv.com/father-ted/night-of-the-nearly-dead/episode/52904/summary.html) from Father Ted?  
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You know what? He really is! I don’t know if anyone, in an unusual move, has actually made him a cake with a jumper in it, but they might as well have.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/37 "2006-09-18T20:12:12Z")

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Clay is the perfect crush. He’s safe and as sexually innocous as a newly neutered puppy. The perfect match for pre-sexual girls and asexual women. Not the most happening fan club in town, but perhaps no wierder than wanting to get intimate with an anime character. I consider them equally, if differently, deviant.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/38 "2006-09-18T21:36:07Z")

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Now that you’ve brought anime into it, I have to post [this](http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Clay-Aiken-Photograph-C12145964.jpeg) [pair.](http://images.quizilla.com/S/senko/1065499557_Pictures14.jpg)

C’mon, I can’t be the only one who sees it!

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/39 "2006-09-18T23:39:34Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
C’mon, I can’t be the only one who sees it!  
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I thought the first link was Sandy Duncan for a minute. I _hope_ I’m not the only one who sees it.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-cking-clay-aiken-f-cking-fanclub/372892/40 "2006-09-19T00:43:18Z")

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_Fuuuuuuuuuck…_ I don’t know WHAT I just saw. Thanks for the link (not).

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