# F\*\*k the Catholic League in whichever orifice is most prone to bleeding

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**Created:** [January 2, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042 "2006-01-02T04:05:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/21 "2006-01-02T21:08:42Z")

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Not so far as I know.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/22 "2006-01-02T21:14:24Z")

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[http://mediamatters.org/items/200412210001?offset=10](http://mediamatters.org/items/200412210001?offset=10)  
Not so you’d notice. They’re a special interest group.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/23 "2006-01-02T21:34:40Z")

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The leader of CL, Bill Donohue, has spent his public career raising indignant protests and organizing boycotts over things most people (including, I’m sure, most Catholics) would not recognize as “anti-Catholic” in any way. E.g., the ABC TV series _Nothing Sacred;_ Joane Osborne’s song “One of Us”; the whole career of Marilyn Manson (just playing into the dude’s hands, there! giving him free Satancred! 😃 ); an episode of _CSI_ that offered what Donohue considered a negative portrayal of anti-abortion activists; and this year’s flap over the phrase “Happy Holidays” vs. “Merry Christmas.” He has also derided Hollywood as being controlled by “secular Jews” and called the stories about sexual abuse of altar boys by priests “a homosexual scandal, not a pedophilia scandal.” [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William\_A.\_Donohue](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Donohue)

It’s not like he has credibility to burn. In fact, in some ways he’s funnier than Parker & Stone – mainly because, for some incomprehensible reason, he seems to expect to be taken seriously.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/24 "2006-01-02T23:47:07Z")

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> [@The Flying Dutchman](#):
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> Well I used the term loosely. Do they not represent a significant portion of American catholics?

Hell no-just the opposite, in fact. Most Catholics I know are really embarassed by them.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/25 "2006-01-03T00:01:05Z")

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> [@The Flying Dutchman](#):
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> Hmm, in general we seem to support prohibition on caricatures of blacks and muslims (by non-blacks and non-muslims) so as not to provide offense to minority groups but this is exactly whats happenning here.

Could you provide a cite for anyone who supports a _prohibition_ on racist caricatures or on racist speech of any sort? People may be offended to varying or inconsistent degrees depending on who the targets are but I don’t know of very many people who want to _prohibit_ any of it in a legal sense. I certainly haven’t seen it on this board. Unless you can actually show examples of people who have called for the “prohibition” of offensive caraicatures in other instances who now support the _South Park_ episode, then you have not located any hypocrisy or inconsistency.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/26 "2006-01-03T00:19:04Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Nah. Rainbow is the junior league amateur wannabe to the Catholic League. As an active Catholic, I find they irritate me far more than they irritate some of their targets. There genuinely is a (for the most part mild) anti-Catholic bias that continues in this country, but by focusing their heaviest condemnation on the most trivial (and often imagined) slights, they make it more difficult to point out legitimate issues.

From what I’ve seen, Donohue seems to have far more of a grudge against what he perceives as “secularists” than he does against the far more authentic and pernicious kinds of anti-Catholic sentiment that are prevalent among certain strains of Protestant Christianity. Donohue is not really a champion of Catholicism so much as he uses the organization as a platform to propound a more generic, conservative Christian ideology. In Donohues’ mind (or at least in his pretexts) gay marriage and “secular Hollywood Jews” are somehow specifically anti-Catholic while the far more legitimate hostility which can be found in fundamentalist Christianity gets short public shrift.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/27 "2006-01-03T00:26:16Z")

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Yeah, I don’t see Donahue out there going against the _Left Behind_ books (and the ministry of LeHaye, which IS anti-Catholic), or Jack Chick.

Jack Chick is way more offensive than _South_ fucking _Park_ and not quite as funny. (Well, maybe it is, but it’s not intended to be funny, while SP is.)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/28 "2006-01-03T00:37:26Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> F\*\*k the Catholic League in whichever orifice is most prone to bleeding

The nostril?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/29 "2006-01-03T00:38:21Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The nostril?

“Ze noseplugs! Zey do nossing!”

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-k-the-catholic-league-in-whichever-orifice-is-most-prone-to-bleeding/338042/30 "2006-01-03T01:36:56Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Could you provide a cite for anyone who supports a _prohibition_ on racist caricatures or on racist speech of any sort? People may be offended to varying or inconsistent degrees depending on who the targets are but I don’t know of very many people who want to _prohibit_ any of it in a legal sense.

I did not mean in the legal sense.

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