# F Merrick Garland. (He won't be going after anyone) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190 "2022-07-19T06:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/461 "2023-06-09T01:26:57Z")
To be fair, Grrr already conceded that Smith might actually get shit done. > [@Grrr](#): > > So maybe he ain’t f’n around after all. Hope it’s true. Others haven’t been so open-minded. For example, @The_Librarian. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/462 "2023-06-09T01:27:06Z")
I’m very happy to be proven wrong. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/463 "2023-06-09T02:11:36Z")
As am I. My only worry now is pardons. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/464 "2023-06-09T02:46:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > So… Did he ever go after anyone? No he didn’t. Luckily Smith picked up the ball and ran with it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/465 "2023-06-09T03:05:49Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Luckily Smith picked up the ball and ran with it. I’m sure Merrick wished that he was the one who chose Jack Smith to conduct the investigations. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/466 "2023-06-09T03:15:41Z")
Hmmm… somehow they indicted him without saying the magic words. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/467 "2023-06-09T03:48:31Z")
He clearly didn’t wish he had done it sooner. We still don’t know if he acted in time. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/468 "2023-06-09T14:21:16Z")
Let’s just move those goal posts another couple dozen yards. The claim of the OP was that Garland would styme any possible investigation of Trump. That has clearly been proven false. @Aspenglow has taken a great deal of shit in this thread, but has basically been right on the money. Justice works slower than we would like but we would get there eventually. For once be gracious, admit you were wrong, and enjoy the good news. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/469 "2023-06-09T14:42:58Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > @Aspenglow has taken a great deal of shit in this thread That is true. It’s also true that @Aspenglow has dealt a lot of shit in this thread. They and those who agree with them have been smug and dismissive with those who have a reasonable difference of opinion. But at least, as far as I know, @Aspenglow it graciously enjoying their vindication while others reopen this thread to childishly goat over having won something. Well, congratulations, I guess. I’m happy to be proven wrong and I can see that you all are happy to have proven us wrong. Enjoy seeing us driven before you, the lamentations of our women etc. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/470 "2023-06-09T16:31:47Z")
One only need look at how the goalposts are moving and complaints keep coming to see the “smug and dismissive” in play. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/471 "2023-06-09T16:58:35Z")
So what legal consequences has Trump experienced so far? How much has he paid in fines? How much time has he spent in jail? My recollection is none, but I bet he has lost judgements. My question is whether he’s ever actually paid a fine as required by a court. For this thread, I suppose I should limit it to “since he was president,” but I’m also kind of curious about ever (but don’t want to start yet another Trump thread). ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/472 "2023-06-09T17:02:18Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Enjoy seeing us driven before you, the lamentations of our women etc. This an interesting interpretation to put on an invitation to enjoy the good news but if that’s how you celebrate who am I to complain. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/473 "2023-06-09T17:26:54Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > So what legal consequences has Trump experienced so far? How much has he paid in fines? > **[Trump Org. fined $1.6 million after conviction for 17 felonies, including tax...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/13/politics/trump-org-sentencing/index.html)** > > The Trump Organization was fined $1.6 million – the maximum possible penalty – by a New York judge Friday for running a decade-long tax fraud scheme, a symbolic moment because it is the only judgment for a criminal conviction that has come close to... ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/474 "2023-06-09T17:30:58Z")
Yes, but did they pay or weasel out? Your article doesn’t say, but looking around, [Trump Organization Pays $1.6 Million Fine for Tax Fraud Conviction](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-organization-pays-dollar16-million-fine-for-tax-fraud-conviction?ref=wrap) does: “The New York County Clerk received the payment in two separate checks on Jan. 24, according to a clerk who confirmed matter-of-factly that the checks didn’t bounce.” Well, that’s pleasing, though arguably more of a consequence for the corporate entity than the individual. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/475 "2023-06-09T17:32:49Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Well, that’s pleasing, though arguably more of a consequence for the corporate entity than the individual. Agreed, but that was just the start. It was the first time he or his organization faced consequences for their shenanigans in a big way. And this wasn’t just a lawsuit judgement, those were multiple felony convictions. It was the _amuse-bouche_ of legal consequences. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/476 "2023-06-09T17:32:53Z")
From that CNN link (dated Jan 23, 2023): > … > The Trump Org. entities have 14 days to pay the fine > … I’m guessing no. > … > The judge overseeing the lawsuit put an independent monitor in place to review the Trump Organization’s financial statements and business decisions. He recently denied motions to dismiss the case and said he **considered** sanctioning Trump’s attorneys. The trial is set for **October**. > … My bold My reading comprehension isn’t what it used to be. So… did he pay it? Ninja’d by @Dr.Drake ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/477 "2023-06-09T18:06:49Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@74westy](#): > > > > Enjoy seeing us driven before you, the lamentations of our women etc. > > This an interesting interpretation to put on an invitation to enjoy the good news but if that’s how you celebrate who am I to complain. This is exactly it – I wanted to hear from these folks about how happy they were that they’re wrong (similar to @RickJay who I remember gleefully celebrating his earlier wrongness when the Democrats ended up winning Georgia in '20). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/478 "2023-06-09T18:39:40Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > He will never be incarcerated or face justice in any meaningful way. This was my claim. I will be overjoyed to be wrong but I’m not wrong yet. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/479 "2023-06-09T18:41:15Z")
If it’s really an invitation to enjoy the good news then I have overreacted. It’s unfortunate that it was never described as such until a reply to my comment so I’m not sure how I am to distinguish between such an invitation and an in-your-face end zone dance. To the extent that that was not intended I apologize. I also apologize to @Chisquirrel for moving goal posts that I never set in the first place and for complaining about the earlier "smug and dismissive"comments in this thread only to be smugly dismissed. But, again, I am greatly relieved to have been proven wrong and happier than I have been in months. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/480 "2023-06-09T18:44:45Z")
I’m extremely happy that Jack Smith has been going after Trump. I’m happy that Garland appointed him no matter what else I think about Garland. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190.md?page=25)